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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:30 am

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I have 2 thoughts....

1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?

2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby wolverinetodd » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:36 am

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The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:41 am

wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?


No and no to your questions. I don't ever recall a case before where replacement parts were sent out, it is usually a replacement or a refund. And since this was an Amazon exclusive, Amazon will offer replacement or refund and then work it out directly with Hasbro.

I'll be opening mine right when I get home from work today to see if I ended up with a bad one, and if so, package it right back up for Amazon.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby joevill » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:45 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:49 am

wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?


Hasbro will send you an item of equal value but you have to send them every component of this set first.
You are better off to just return to Amazon for refund.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:50 am

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o.supreme wrote:I have 2 thoughts....

1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?

2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.


It doesn't seem to be happening with the Seekers. And there's 7 uses of that one. Skytread had issues with his ankles on some of the figures too. It sounds like it's a problem with this specific mold, not a line wide issue.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:54 am

o.supreme wrote:1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?


Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.

Red Alert is just as solid, if not more than Sideswipe for me. All the Siege seekers after Starscream have been better than Starscream. Ricochet and Combat Hero Megs were equal to Jazz and reg Megs for me.

The Skytread mold already had issues right from the start, so I wonder if they actually adjusted the mold to fix one issue and instead caused another one. Or it could be nothing to do with the molds themselves and rather be an issue with the plastic material used.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:55 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:30 am

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They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:32 am

I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:39 am

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william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.


I had to shave down his heel pegs just to get that tank mode to work and it’s still a little eh, you know? He’s otherwise a win though I love how chunky he is and the jet mode is way cool. I reversed his wings and place the long barrel on his back to give him a junior Blitzwing vibe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:42 am

william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.


Exactly. It’s not mold degradation. It’s privet just a bad batch of red plastic and that spot where it’s breaking is just a really weak spot.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:45 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.


I don't like to dredge up old beefs but since you asked...yeah my Red Swoop and Ricochet were pretty much garbage. But this seems to be less frequent than some others (though I know for certain I was not the only one who had issues with these). Glad to know Red Alert is good, also Combat Hero Megs, since that was a selects release and I had my concerns.

Although I wont be getting Bluestreak or Selects Smokescreen, it will be interesting to see what the overall QC of these is. I'm not saying its a *second mold curse* just an observation. being in QC/Auditing is what I'm all about ;) . Something happens twice, it's a red flag, 3 or more times, and it's a trend that needs to be corrected.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:28 am

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Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.


I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:31 am

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Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.


I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.


Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Vic Zanzibar » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:32 am

I just won’t transform my Slammy. If I ever feel the need to transform a figure into stumpy and dorky looking plane and tank modes, I’ll just use Skytread.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:38 am

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sol magnus wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.


I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.


Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?


Amazon. I got lucky. I saw he was in stock, but by the time I went to order him, it said August 31st before he'd ship. Next day I was on Amazon again and it said 1-2 days. Cancelled the first order and ordered again. Now he's August 31st again.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Bounti76 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:58 am

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I got Skywarp yesterday, and his chest panel is just as prone to popping off as Starscream's, if not more. I have all the other Seekers, and so far, only Starscream and Skywarp have that issue.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:05 pm

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I have Red Alert and Ratchet and they're just as good as the original use of the molds if not better like in Ratchet's case. I was giving Hasbro a lot of slack with Slamdance because I liked the blue on Rain Dance, but if they can't even make sure a repaint in a set is 100% then there's a problem. Mine will be here tomorrow so we'll see.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:07 pm

My Red Alert has his right fist positioned backward... :evil: :evil:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:23 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:25 pm

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.

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Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:32 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.

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Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?


He does not. I was surprised by that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:43 pm

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Umm, Eek? I transformed my Slamdance a few times last night and didnt notice any breakage, although there is a hitch in his leg trying to bend his foot, it could be related? Maybe there is flash in a joint and the tension is giving at the soft plastic arounf the metal pin?

*Carefully putsSlamdance on a shelf and never touches him again*

On a related note, I am now so torn about G2 Sideswipe. This is my first expsrience with the mold and I *Like* it but I'm not sure I *love* it. I am tempted to sell mine, but I think I want to see if the 3P guys do any Guns and the Bandolier. I wish we knew if there was a Sunstreaker coming for Siege2, I *might* be more inclined to circle back for Swipe then.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Unicron Magnus » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:07 pm

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I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.

(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure? And that's not even addressing the chest turbines, which I believe only the Masterpiece ever had actually folding up.) I don't mind Siegescream's chest turbines, since they could be interpreted as engines.

I know I'm nitpicking about a-million-and-a-half times too hard right now, but I wish that the seeker mold chest actually looked like something that could be the rear of a spaceship, even if that's not slavishly G1 enough.

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