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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:25 pm

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starrhero wrote:Oh great, more Walgreens exclusives that will be seen by all 2 people who are insanely lucky to find them in store, just like wreck-gar :BANG_HEAD: . Sad thing is that it's a character I've been wanting for a very long time.

I wouldn't complain normally... you know if we could actually find the exclusives where they should be in stores. :BANG_HEAD:


That's not even fair. Wreck-Gar should only just now start showing up. Most Walgreen's exclusives show up in bulk at some point, just like the Clone set which was widely available. You'll have your chance. Wreck-Gar is most likely "Christmas" stock and should be widely available soon.


I legitimately didn't know that Wreck-Gar was supposed to come out around now. :HEADHURTS: I'm not actually sure where the idea of them coming out earlier, I believe the only thing that pointed to an early release was the online Walgreens listing which said it was already in stock. Next time, I'll make sure not to instantly take that at face value. I think I need to call it tonight, as now I need to rethink a few other things I hopefully didn't confuse. Thanks again, guys & sorry for being rather negative. #-o
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Prime Target » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:03 am

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SIGN ME TF UP BOY! A repaint of Siege Ironhide is all it needs to be. With a lightbar , New head and new medical equipment.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:07 am

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Prime Target wrote:SIGN ME TF UP BOY! A repaint of Siege Ironhide is all it needs to be. With a lightbar , New head and new medical equipment.

I'd actually argue a lightbar isn't a must. Ratchet's on Cybertron, acting as a field medic. He's not an ambulance yet. Save some money for more medical tools and maybe an alternate head? One for Cartoon, one for comics would be nice
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:42 am

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That settles it. I didnt want to buy another Ironhide until I knew Ratchet was coming. Now I know. Guess I can retire the Desent into Evil pair as soon as Ratchet comes out
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:48 am

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Part of me kinda wants this to be the UW Ratchet released by Hasbro as an exclusive just for the people I know still want one, even though I don't really feel I want or need a combining Ratchet myself, but I feel like it's more likely going to be from Siege Ironhide instead. Guess we don't need to worry about what Ironhide's alternate head tooling is...(as if it were ever a question, really)

I'll have to see what this guy looks like to see if I want him. I'm already intending to grab Ironhide, and I don't like having to justify buying repaints with new heads, but I don't already have a Ratchet figure that I like, so...yeah, it'll depend on what he looks like and what he comes with, really. They had better give him a new weapon though, the field medic doesn't need a rocket launching hammer nor would it really be in character for him to have one.

Also starrhero, I think you might have been confused partially because one or more TF-selling sites, I think at least Robotkingdom, put up preorders for Wreck-Gar towards the start of summer saying he'd start shipping in August, so some people assumed he'd show up at retail around the same time.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:51 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Part of me kinda wants this to be the UW Ratchet released by Hasbro as an exclusive just for the people I know still want one, even though I don't really feel I want or need a combining Ratchet myself, but I feel like it's more likely going to be from Siege Ironhide instead. Guess we don't need to worry about what Ironhide's alternate head tooling is...(as if it were ever a question, really)

I'll have to see what this guy looks like to see if I want him. I'm already intending to grab Ironhide, and I don't like having to justify buying repaints with new heads, but I don't already have a Ratchet figure that I like, so...yeah, it'll depend on what he looks like and what he comes with, really. They had better give him a new weapon though, the field medic doesn't need a rocket launching hammer nor would it really be in character for him to have one.

Also starrhero, I think you might have been confused partially because one or more TF-selling sites, I think at least Robotkingdom, put up preorders for Wreck-Gar towards the start of summer saying he'd start shipping in August, so some people assumed he'd show up at retail around the same time.


I wanrt to ay Wreck Gar showed up in Canada? whee he is an exclusive for someone else (gamestop?) so that may be why folks thought he was out
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:00 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Also starrhero, I think you might have been confused partially because one or more TF-selling sites, I think at least Robotkingdom, put up preorders for Wreck-Gar towards the start of summer saying he'd start shipping in August, so some people assumed he'd show up at retail around the same time.


I wanrt to ay Wreck Gar showed up in Canada? whee he is an exclusive for someone else (gamestop?) so that may be why folks thought he was out

Yeah, the Canadian Gamestop equivalent (EB Games, I think? I'm not Canadian, don't quote me on that) has Wreck-Gar already, just how like Optimal Optimus is actually out at retail there as well.

Given that those two are the only PotP figures left on my list that I want, and that Primal is the figure I've been looking forward to the most in that whole line, I'm paying very close attention (and am still slightly upset about the lack of munkky, but that's not for this thread).

Overall, point is, thinking Wreck-Gar is out/is supposed to be out at Walgreens already is a fairly easy mistake to make, given the circumstances.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:37 am

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So a rachet is coming eh? Makes sense, now will he come with the same accessories or will he have some new stuff? Let the speculation begin I say.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:42 am

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I wonder how Hasbro will choose to paint up Ratchet's head for this Siege iteration. Will it be a white helmet with a black crest like the original Cartoon? A red helmet with a white crest like the original Marvel comics (and IDW comics)? A white helmet with a red crest like more recent iterations of the character (Animated, Prime, Cyberverse, etc.)? They can't really fall back on the original toy for this, obviously. So many possibilities.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:54 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:35 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:I wonder how Hasbro will choose to paint up Ratchet's head for this Siege iteration. Will it be a white helmet with a black crest like the original Cartoon? A red helmet with a white crest like the original Marvel comics (and IDW comics)? A white helmet with a red crest like more recent iterations of the character (Animated, Prime, Cyberverse, etc.)? They can't really fall back on the original toy for this, obviously. So many possibilities.


You know, it would have been an incredible troll job of the original toys if they would have made an option to not transform the head on the siege versions and leave a little face sticker behind the windshield.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:44 am

:-? ..................This is troubling because Walgreen exclusives usually show up around Oct./Nov. of every year. And there's been no info regarding SIEGE Ratchet until now, while Wreck-Gar has been rumored since February which had most people thinking/hoping he'd be a "May Mayhem" figure. The troubling part is that Ratchet might end up being the exclusive TF of Oct/Nov in 2019 knowing Walgreen's crappy track record.

Best case scenario is that this was supposed to be a TRU exclusive and once news hit about them closing down, Hasbro worked something out with Walgreen's at the last minute so we just might see Ratchet at the end of this year while the worse case is to have to wait for him until this time next year.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:01 am

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I'd bet that arrival date of 9/29 for Ratchet is 9/29/19. If so, we have a long wait ahead of us.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:25 am

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leokearon wrote:Looks like there will still be a Generations Ratchet gap in my collection. Stupid Exclusives

Honestly, Walgreens exclusive collector toys have not been hard to get, even if you dont have a Walgreens near you. They are the only place in the states Hasbro is selling its stock to so there will be a bunch available. And that means there will be a bunch on the secondary market, to the point of Seibertron stating he couldnt even sell some back at cost.

Its a bigger problems for toys that are not colelctor oriented, like that Cyber Battalion shockwave or Prowl (or even several RID toys that werent exclusive at all). The lack of general interest, means there end up being less online and thus sellers can charge much higher for those interested.

So basically, if you dotn have walgreens near you, just wait a year and go check on e-bay and get him for $25-$30 + shipping

PLUS we know takara is releasing these toys. So like wreck gar, you can simply buy it off amazon japan , eventually.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:43 am

Cobotron wrote:I'd bet that arrival date of 9/29 for Ratchet is 9/29/19. If so, we have a long wait ahead of us.

I'd love to be wrong!


I'm pretty sure the 9/29 date is wrong for any year. If you look, that date is only associated with the regular Siege deluxes. So 9/29 of this year is too early and 9/29 of next year is way too late.

If you look at the Ratchet Listing, the arrival date is blank.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby mordhelm » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:44 am

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leokearon wrote:Looks like there will still be a Generations Ratchet gap in my collection. Stupid Exclusives

Honestly, Walgreens exclusive collector toys have not been hard to get, even if you dont have a Walgreens near you. They are the only place in the states Hasbro is selling its stock to so there will be a bunch available. And that means there will be a bunch on the secondary market, to the point of Seibertron stating he couldnt even sell some back at cost.

Its a bigger problems for toys that are not colelctor oriented, like that Cyber Battalion shockwave or Prowl (or even several RID toys that werent exclusive at all). The lack of general interest, means there end up being less online and thus sellers can charge much higher for those interested.

So basically, if you dotn have walgreens near you, just wait a year and go check on e-bay and get him for $25-$30 + shipping

PLUS we know takara is releasing these toys. So like wreck gar, you can simply buy it off amazon japan , eventually.


Heck walgreens is selling the exclusives online too. The clones 2 pack is still up for sale and cheap.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:50 am

YoungPrime wrote::-? ..................This is troubling because Walgreen exclusives usually show up around Oct./Nov. of every year. And there's been no info regarding SIEGE Ratchet until now, while Wreck-Gar has been rumored since February which had most people thinking/hoping he'd be a "May Mayhem" figure. The troubling part is that Ratchet might end up being the exclusive TF of Oct/Nov in 2019 knowing Walgreen's crappy track record.

Best case scenario is that this was supposed to be a TRU exclusive and once news hit about them closing down, Hasbro worked something out with Walgreen's at the last minute so we just might see Ratchet at the end of this year while the worse case is to have to wait for him until this time next year.


I'm pretty sure this is just an early hint of next year's Walgreens exclusive. First off, remember this is inside walgreens info and not intended for us to know yet, so it isn't like they are letting us know way too early, we aren't supposed to know yet.

I believe the February Wreck Gar info you are referencing was the package photos from Russia, but we actually knew about him much earlier than that. If I remember correctly, we had a similar walgreens leak about Wreck Gar over 2 years ago. Early enough that he would have been part of CW (just slightly late) instead of PotP. I believe he was going to be part of the Sky Lynx combiner originally.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:54 am

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YoungPrime wrote::-? ..................This is troubling because Walgreen exclusives usually show up around Oct./Nov. of every year. And there's been no info regarding SIEGE Ratchet until now, while Wreck-Gar has been rumored since February which had most people thinking/hoping he'd be a "May Mayhem" figure. The troubling part is that Ratchet might end up being the exclusive TF of Oct/Nov in 2019 knowing Walgreen's crappy track record.

Best case scenario is that this was supposed to be a TRU exclusive and once news hit about them closing down, Hasbro worked something out with Walgreen's at the last minute so we just might see Ratchet at the end of this year while the worse case is to have to wait for him until this time next year.


I'm pretty sure this is just an early hint of next year's Walgreens exclusive. First off, remember this is inside walgreens info and not intended for us to know yet, so it isn't like they are letting us know way too early, we aren't supposed to know yet.

I believe the February Wreck Gar info you are referencing was the package photos from Russia, but we actually knew about him much earlier than that. If I remember correctly, we had a similar walgreens leak about Wreck Gar over 2 years ago. Early enough that he would have been part of CW (just slightly late) instead of PotP. I believe he was going to be part of the Sky Lynx combiner originally.


Yeah, Wreck Gar was first found on the computer July 28 ... 2017

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... und/39083/

So as I wrote in the article, you will only see this new Ratchet a year from now for the 2019 holiday season.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:39 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote::-? ..................This is troubling because Walgreen exclusives usually show up around Oct./Nov. of every year. And there's been no info regarding SIEGE Ratchet until now, while Wreck-Gar has been rumored since February which had most people thinking/hoping he'd be a "May Mayhem" figure. The troubling part is that Ratchet might end up being the exclusive TF of Oct/Nov in 2019 knowing Walgreen's crappy track record.

Best case scenario is that this was supposed to be a TRU exclusive and once news hit about them closing down, Hasbro worked something out with Walgreen's at the last minute so we just might see Ratchet at the end of this year while the worse case is to have to wait for him until this time next year.


I'm pretty sure this is just an early hint of next year's Walgreens exclusive. First off, remember this is inside walgreens info and not intended for us to know yet, so it isn't like they are letting us know way too early, we aren't supposed to know yet.

I believe the February Wreck Gar info you are referencing was the package photos from Russia, but we actually knew about him much earlier than that. If I remember correctly, we had a similar walgreens leak about Wreck Gar over 2 years ago. Early enough that he would have been part of CW (just slightly late) instead of PotP. I believe he was going to be part of the Sky Lynx combiner originally.


Yeah, Wreck Gar was first found on the computer July 28 ... 2017

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... und/39083/

So as I wrote in the article, you will only see this new Ratchet a year from now for the 2019 holiday season.


Wow, that's kind of crazy it's that far out. Will have to ask Hasbro about it next week at NYCC.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:16 am

william-james88 wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote::-? ..................This is troubling because Walgreen exclusives usually show up around Oct./Nov. of every year. And there's been no info regarding SIEGE Ratchet until now, while Wreck-Gar has been rumored since February which had most people thinking/hoping he'd be a "May Mayhem" figure. The troubling part is that Ratchet might end up being the exclusive TF of Oct/Nov in 2019 knowing Walgreen's crappy track record.

Best case scenario is that this was supposed to be a TRU exclusive and once news hit about them closing down, Hasbro worked something out with Walgreen's at the last minute so we just might see Ratchet at the end of this year while the worse case is to have to wait for him until this time next year.


I'm pretty sure this is just an early hint of next year's Walgreens exclusive. First off, remember this is inside walgreens info and not intended for us to know yet, so it isn't like they are letting us know way too early, we aren't supposed to know yet.

I believe the February Wreck Gar info you are referencing was the package photos from Russia, but we actually knew about him much earlier than that. If I remember correctly, we had a similar walgreens leak about Wreck Gar over 2 years ago. Early enough that he would have been part of CW (just slightly late) instead of PotP. I believe he was going to be part of the Sky Lynx combiner originally.


Yeah, Wreck Gar was first found on the computer July 28 ... 2017

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... und/39083/

So as I wrote in the article, you will only see this new Ratchet a year from now for the 2019 holiday season.

Which is what I was worried about. We all knew that a Ratchet was remold was coming via Ironhide, it's annoying having to deal with Walgreen's. I'm actually skipping that exclusive Wreck-Gar (who in my opinion isn't better than RTS versions of the mold) but it looks like they're managing to pull me back in to hunt in their stores for him next year.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:17 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Part of me kinda wants this to be the UW Ratchet released by Hasbro as an exclusive just for the people I know still want one, even though I don't really feel I want or need a combining Ratchet myself, but I feel like it's more likely going to be from Siege Ironhide instead.


It will be something new, no doubt. Trust me, you wouldn't want the UW ratchet to be released in Siege. Hasbro would just make it bumpy and remove the combiner component.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:55 am

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leokearon wrote:Looks like there will still be a Generations Ratchet gap in my collection. Stupid Exclusives

Honestly, Walgreens exclusive collector toys have not been hard to get, even if you dont have a Walgreens near you. They are the only place in the states Hasbro is selling its stock to so there will be a bunch available. And that means there will be a bunch on the secondary market, to the point of Seibertron stating he couldnt even sell some back at cost.

Its a bigger problems for toys that are not colelctor oriented, like that Cyber Battalion shockwave or Prowl (or even several RID toys that werent exclusive at all). The lack of general interest, means there end up being less online and thus sellers can charge much higher for those interested.

So basically, if you dotn have walgreens near you, just wait a year and go check on e-bay and get him for $25-$30 + shipping

PLUS we know takara is releasing these toys. So like wreck gar, you can simply buy it off amazon japan , eventually.


I might get lucky and some of the comic shops in Dublin might get him (they got the ML Mr. Fantastic, so figures crossed) Still I would prefer to be able to buy from my local shops than either go on or travel 140 km
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby CircuitBreaker » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:42 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Medical Officer Ratchet being a pharmacy store exclusive is all kinds of apropos.


Hasbro has a tendency to do things like this. Thundercracker is blue so he was a TRU exclusive. Target got Leadfoot toys and red nerf guns, My Little Pony's Nurse Redheart was a walgreen's exlusive, walmart got hotrod toys because...... the automotive department? :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:49 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:Part of me kinda wants this to be the UW Ratchet released by Hasbro as an exclusive just for the people I know still want one, even though I don't really feel I want or need a combining Ratchet myself, but I feel like it's more likely going to be from Siege Ironhide instead.


It will be something new, no doubt. Trust me, you wouldn't want the UW ratchet to be released in Siege. Hasbro would just make it bumpy and remove the combiner component.

Oh, I agree. I didn't bring up UW Ratchet because I wanted it, I just mentioned him because I know other people on this site have been lamenting Hasbro's use of the CW/UW Ratchet tooling/mold and were hoping it would get a proper release in PotP as an exclusive like this. Hence, it would be cool for those individuals if this WAS that Ratchet, but I highly doubt it is and would personally prefer that it isn't.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:08 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:Part of me kinda wants this to be the UW Ratchet released by Hasbro as an exclusive just for the people I know still want one, even though I don't really feel I want or need a combining Ratchet myself, but I feel like it's more likely going to be from Siege Ironhide instead.


It will be something new, no doubt. Trust me, you wouldn't want the UW ratchet to be released in Siege. Hasbro would just make it bumpy and remove the combiner component.

Oh, I agree. I didn't bring up UW Ratchet because I wanted it, I just mentioned him because I know other people on this site have been lamenting Hasbro's use of the CW/UW Ratchet tooling/mold and were hoping it would get a proper release in PotP as an exclusive like this. Hence, it would be cool for those individuals if this WAS that Ratchet, but I highly doubt it is and would personally prefer that it isn't.

Unfortunately that mold being used as Ratchet for the Botcon class pretty much prevented it also getting released any other way by Hasbro. They would have really pissed off those fortunate enough to have gotten a Botcon Ratchet if they were to suddenly make him available for $25.
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