The Energon Pub

[no-one]

Is there any official triple changers out there that have ALL of its 3 modes legit perfect?

Well that's a tall order. What bar are we measuring against? G1 accuracy, that's a low bar. Real world accuracy, that's a high bar. Personal preference, not even going touch that.

I'm just going go ahead and say it; T30 Springer is overrated Mine had loosey goosey parts and didn't peg well in any mode. Sandstorm is my preferred version and has much better tolerances in all modes, but non of his alt-modes are G1 accurate or real world accurate and the dune buggy is just silly looking. I do find it a fun mold to tinker with and I love the VTOL backpack I've sent T30 Springer to the isle of unloved toys and wouldn't mind sending Sandstorm there as well if a "better" version was produced.

I scanned around my room a bit and all the triple changers show signs of compromise and I don't think there is anyway around that. Nature of a triple changers I guess.

Siege Springer does a pretty good job of hitting that modern "G1 done better" trick and everything pegs in well. Bot mode and transformation are fun. That's my measuring stick: how well does this evoke G1, is it fun? With that said, I'd toss TR Blitzwing into the ring. Siege Astrotrain seems to also fit my standards.

BTW, define "perfect".

[ZeroWolf]

I love T30 Springer and all his alts....so there's my choice I also see his non-G1 accuracy as a feature...

[no-one]

I love T30 Springer and all his alts....so there's my choice I also see his non-G1 accuracy as a feature...

[ZeroWolf]

Having said that, I would happily pick up Astrotrain as Shuttle alt modes are my weakness (hence why I hope Takara follows up their redone Armada Prime with a Jetfire...)

[Sabrblade]

In other news, Omega Supreme's backwards compatibility with TR Base Mode toys is not what we expected it to be. He has not one but two different types of connectors in his base mode. The TR-compatible ones are located on the outer circumference of his track pieces, right near the middle of each piece. The rest of his connectors everywhere else are an all new type that cannot work with TR bases.

Here's a pic (from here; it's not mine) that shows where one of the TR-compatible connectors are:

[Epsilon Delta]

The single thing I don't like about Siege Leader Astrotrain is the shuttle mode. Especially the part behind the "legs" where there's just "hollow damage" that desperately beg for a panel to cover that mess. I expect Shapeway or someone else to make such a cover. Plus the part could be stored easily in the train wagon, or be used as a shield in bot mode.



Regardless, I LOVE Astrotrain and that leader is fantastic. Especially because it nail the look (despite the shuttle flaw) and it mostly transform like the original G1 toy!

Honesty I'm ok with a weaker shuttle mode, since every astrotrain toy ever has prioritized that mode. It's finally time for the steam loco to shine

I wish they would have made the cargo car attach over the "open shuttle back" to cover it up and complete that look.

[-Kanrabat-]

Not caring about either G1 or absolute real world accuracy, the ideal us to have triple changers that are great looking in all modes without anything unsightly or weird happening. Meaning cohesive all the time. So far, only T-30 Sandstorm Côme to mind forme, T-30 Springer being almost there.

[Sabrblade]

Not caring about either G1 or absolute real world accuracy, the ideal us to have triple changers that are great looking in all modes without anything unsightly or weird happening. Meaning cohesive all the time. So far, only T-30 Sandstorm Côme to mind forme, T-30 Springer being almost there.

Throwing both G1 and realism out the window, how about Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron?

[Epsilon Delta]

Not caring about either G1 or absolute real world accuracy, the ideal us to have triple changers that are great looking in all modes without anything unsightly or weird happening. Meaning cohesive all the time. So far, only T-30 Sandstorm Côme to mind forme, T-30 Springer being almost there.

Throwing both G1 and realism out the window, how about Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron?

Batmobile Megatron really is awesome in all modes. Even combining with Nemesis Breaker. I wish his cockpit opened so I could put a headmaster in there. I was hoping they would do a Galaxy Upgrade Megatron to go with Prime.

[-Kanrabat-]

Not caring about either G1 or absolute real world accuracy, the ideal us to have triple changers that are great looking in all modes without anything unsightly or weird happening. Meaning cohesive all the time. So far, only T-30 Sandstorm Côme to mind forme, T-30 Springer being almost there.

Throwing both G1 and realism out the window, how about Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron?

I don't really like that mold. The bot mode have huge ass kibbbles that just hang there, and the "spaceship" mode is just a bonus mode. However, this is one hell of a cool "batmobile".

[Sabrblade]

Not caring about either G1 or absolute real world accuracy, the ideal us to have triple changers that are great looking in all modes without anything unsightly or weird happening. Meaning cohesive all the time. So far, only T-30 Sandstorm Côme to mind forme, T-30 Springer being almost there.

Throwing both G1 and realism out the window, how about Cybertron Megatron/Galvatron?

I don't really like that mold. The bot mode have huge ass kibbbles that just hang there, and the "spaceship" mode is just a bonus mode. However, this is one hell of a cool "batmobile".

Another idea. How about any of the DOTM Human Alliance Basics? They were pretty cool.

Or, for a role play toy example, Armada Laserbeak?

[-Kanrabat-]

.Another idea. How about any of the DOTM Human Alliance Basics? They were pretty cool.

Or, for a role play toy example, Armada Laserbeak?

Armada Lazerbeak cheat because he's his own thing. Also 100% show accurate.

As for the DOTM HA scouts, most have a iffy third mode. Except one. DOTM HA Backfire. The vehicle is nice, the bot is solid, and the third mode is a PERFECT BFG.

[bacem]

finally opened siege springer last night. This is a good toy. However, it doesn't impress me as much as i expected. overtime Maybe it will grown on me, but for now, i don't feel like replacing T30 version with this one. T30 still feels superior to me. It is still fun and good toy tho, and the articulation is great, that is one aspect where this one wins over T30, so i also gonna keep this one.

[johnkillingsworth]

Just picked up the Siege Rainmakers at target.com tonight, I've been trying to get these for weeks, doing the notify by email, but they sell out very very quickly. I was randomly on the site and they were in stock, nearly fell out of my chair and bought them. Now several hours later, they're still there! Anyone who is looking for these should head over and pick them up!

[emlit]

finally opened siege springer last night. This is a good toy. However, it doesn't impress me as much as i expected. overtime Maybe it will grown on me, but for now, i don't feel like replacing T30 version with this one. T30 still feels superior to me. It is still fun and good toy tho, and the articulation is great, that is one aspect where this one wins over T30, so i also gonna keep this one.

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Nice poses

[william-james88]

Is there any official triple changers out there that have ALL of its 3 modes legit perfect?

Do Transmetals count with their Transport Modes that are intentionally designed to be vehicular beast modes?

Also, the connection to TR bases and Omega is exactly what i thought it would be, thats the only port we ever saw that would work.

[blackeyedprime]

Wondering if the other track ports will link to anything as rearranging omegas tracks doesn't seem to have much purpose or look good.

[Cyberpath]

Skyfire's effects are compatible with MP-11's guns! (And almost with his engines.)

[Evil Eye]

The single thing I don't like about Siege Leader Astrotrain is the shuttle mode. Especially the part behind the "legs" where there's just "hollow damage" that desperately beg for a panel to cover that mess. I expect Shapeway or someone else to make such a cover. Plus the part could be stored easily in the train wagon, or be used as a shield in bot mode.



Regardless, I LOVE Astrotrain and that leader is fantastic. Especially because it nail the look (despite the shuttle flaw) and it mostly transform like the original G1 toy!

Honesty I'm ok with a weaker shuttle mode, since every astrotrain toy ever has prioritized that mode. It's finally time for the steam loco to shine

I thought the shuttle mode was the weakest part of the G1 and classics toy.

The Classics toy had a nice train mode but IIRC it was a Shinkansen rather than a steam train. Which is cool, don't get me wrong, but for those of us who want a proper choochoo doesn't quite cut the mustard.

TR Astrotrain has a really nice shuttle mode, and his train mode is cool but gives me more of vibes of a landship than a regular train. Nice toy though, and as Sentinel Prime I really, really love the figure (thanks once again BTW).

This one, whilst not perfect, has an acceptable shuttle mode and a really nice train mode. Assuming I can get him he'll be my Astrotrain.

[Stargrave]

I would say TR Sentinel does a great job for both modes with all the fine detail really selling the train and the shuttle.

I love how the shuttle and train (and same with other TR vehicles) can be just a standard vehicle for Titan Masters or they have the tinier cockpits and windows to let your imagination really envision it as a giant craft. Just fun stuff.

[Cobotron]

Is there any official triple changers out there that have ALL of its 3 modes legit perfect?

Do Transmetals count with their Transport Modes that are intentionally designed to be vehicular beast modes?

Well crap! I was going to chime in to say, my personal favorite "triple changer" is Transmetals 2 Waspinator.

But there's a huge difference between favorite and best. I have not the authority to declare any one triple changer the best.

As far as cohesiveness between all 3 modes, I think Siege Springer is a good contender.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Is there any official triple changers out there that have ALL of its 3 modes legit perfect?

Do Transmetals count with their Transport Modes that are intentionally designed to be vehicular beast modes?

Well crap! I was going to chime in to say, my personal favorite "triple changer" is Transmetals 2 Waspinator.

He truly does pull off the vehicle mode the best with the wings and cockpit, even if that isn't saying much

[o.supreme]

We're half way there!

[o.supreme]

Someone heard Jetfire didn't have enough weapons

*All 12 currently released BM's together

[Stargrave]

We’ve got Siege Ultra Magnus and Springer a War for Cybertron Unicron approaching our planet ...I think I need new Sieged-out versions of everyone else from the poster for the 1986 movie.


Sieged Galvatron, Sieged Cyclonus and Scourge, and come on, we need Arcee.

I need an ArSiege.