Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rogue-Primal » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:52 am

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have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:47 am

Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.


Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:54 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.


Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.

Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:27 am

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Tuned Agent wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.
Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.
Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?
It can especially considering you'll need the 90%+ alcohol stuff to remove paint. The 70% will only take the shine off at best.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:44 am

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carytheone wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.
Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.
Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?
It can especially considering you'll need the 90%+ alcohol stuff to remove paint. The 70% will only take the shine off at best.

That's really good to know. Is nail polish remover any better? I'm planning to turn a Hotlink into a custom Skywarp, and step 1 is removing a lot of the purple paint, including the paint around his clear plastic cockpit bits. The close proximity of some of that purple to the clear plastic could be problematic, I certainly don't want damage those parts.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Apr 14, 2020 8:52 am

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Tuned Agent wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.
Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.
Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?
It can especially considering you'll need the 90%+ alcohol stuff to remove paint. The 70% will only take the shine off at best.
That's really good to know. Is nail polish remover any better? I'm planning to turn a Hotlink into a custom Skywarp, and step 1 is removing a lot of the purple paint, including the paint around his clear plastic cockpit bits. The close proximity of some of that purple to the clear plastic could be problematic, I certainly don't want damage those parts.
Nail polish remover is harsher and can melt some plastics or take the shine off of them or make them brittle. Some nail polish removers are acetone based. It's likely to give clear plastics a haze if not outright damage them to some degree.

High alcohol content rubbing alcohol is your best/safest bet. Clean the bare plastics and be prepared to repaint the others. Also be careful of the faction symbols, those will come off quicker than the paint. Optimus has battle damage on his shoulder symbol, so it's a leave it be or replace situation.

Side note, I've tried 70% on a non Siege figure and it didn't even take the sheen off the paint. The 90% alcohol took the paint off pretty quickly, but still required some elbow grease here and there. I also hit a few painted areas by mistake and completely removed the sheen.

Take it slow and plan before you touch the figure. Might even be best to disassemble the figure. Less chance of wet fingers touching things you don't want.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:38 am

carytheone wrote:Take it slow and plan before you touch the figure. Might even be best to disassemble the figure. Less chance of wet fingers touching things you don't want.


This^^^ Dis-assemble as much as easily possible (ball joints and mushroom pegs) and get the area you are working on as open as possible before starting. Q-tips can be used for areas where your fingers might be too large.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rogue-Primal » Tue Apr 14, 2020 12:30 pm

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One annoying aspect that one of the battle damages on siege voyager optimus prime happens to cover the autobot :BOT: symbol on his shoulder. Talk about annoying or even worse designers intentionally trolling fans who consider modding.
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Netflix Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Voyagers Sighted in US

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Thanks to a heads up from @Weebot17 on Twitter, we have news that the recently online pre-order delayed Netflix War for Cybertron figures have shown up at US retail!

This sighting comes to us from the Walmart in Mocksville, North Carolina, where Weebot17 found both Megatron and Hotlink. This comes as quite a shock, as just in the past 2 weeks everyone who had pre-ordered the figures online received word that the figures had been delayed into May or June, while we also had simultaneous sightings of the figures in Canada. Either way, it is cool to see that these figures are starting to make their way out to retail outside of Canada, and that the online delays haven't seemed to impact the actual store stock.

Check out the sighting below, and please, during this time of crisis, only check out the toys if you are already out getting necessary groceries, and remember to social distance! Let us know if you do find these guys and any other figures in the comments section below!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:06 am

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carytheone wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rogue-Primal wrote:have been wondering something... does rubbing alcohol (hands) work for remove "battle damage" paintjobs on SIEGE figures. Voyager Optimus Prime has a bit too many uneven scratches in my opinion. Does anyone know if the battle damage is safely removeable without damaging other paintjobs underneath specifically Optimus and Deluxe Sideswipe.
Yes, it will take off the battle damage, but if the battle damage is on top of paint, trying to take it off will take off the battle damage and the paint underneath.

For Sideswipe, his shins and waist are battle damage over black plastic, so those should be fine, but his feet are battle damage on top of silver paint on top of black plastic.

For OP, his thighs are gray plastic and should be fine, his shoulders are red plastic and should be fine, but his chest windows are clear plastic, I'd stay away from there.
Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?
It can especially considering you'll need the 90%+ alcohol stuff to remove paint. The 70% will only take the shine off at best.
That's really good to know. Is nail polish remover any better? I'm planning to turn a Hotlink into a custom Skywarp, and step 1 is removing a lot of the purple paint, including the paint around his clear plastic cockpit bits. The close proximity of some of that purple to the clear plastic could be problematic, I certainly don't want damage those parts.
Nail polish remover is harsher and can melt some plastics or take the shine off of them or make them brittle. Some nail polish removers are acetone based. It's likely to give clear plastics a haze if not outright damage them to some degree.

High alcohol content rubbing alcohol is your best/safest bet. Clean the bare plastics and be prepared to repaint the others. Also be careful of the faction symbols, those will come off quicker than the paint. Optimus has battle damage on his shoulder symbol, so it's a leave it be or replace situation.

Side note, I've tried 70% on a non Siege figure and it didn't even take the sheen off the paint. The 90% alcohol took the paint off pretty quickly, but still required some elbow grease here and there. I also hit a few painted areas by mistake and completely removed the sheen.

Take it slow and plan before you touch the figure. Might even be best to disassemble the figure. Less chance of wet fingers touching things you don't want.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:This^^^ Dis-assemble as much as easily possible (ball joints and mushroom pegs) and get the area you are working on as open as possible before starting. Q-tips can be used for areas where your fingers might be too large.

Thank you guys for the advice. Wasn't sure which of those to use, so I'll plan on using rubbing alcohol. And I'm definitely planning to disassemble Hotlink, considering how easy to disassemble that mold is. Hopefully I can figure out a way to remove the paint around his cockpit parts. I want him to turn out well, so all advice is appreciated. :D

And now that Hotlink has been found in the US, maybe I can get started soon. If I can ever leave my house.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby triKlops » Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:26 am

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Tuned Agent wrote: Hopefully I can figure out a way to remove the paint around his cockpit parts. I want him to turn out well, so all advice is appreciated. :D


Just to throw in my 2 cents; blue painters tape to mask off areas and a shaved qtip for accuracy should be helpful.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rogue-Primal » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:41 am

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Just a note does Ethanol/Isopropyl 70% rubbing hand alcohol work for this ? or are they rough.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:07 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Just a note does Ethanol/Isopropyl 70% rubbing hand alcohol work for this ? or are they rough.
Probably not. I've only ever used 90+% "rubbing alcohol" successfully. I'm not sure and I don't have the bottle handy to confirm which one it was (probably isopropyl). Honestly I didn't even know there was a difference until just now (thanks google).

I used to work in the retail paint industry and I have some familiarity with different solvents (most of which will melt plastic). We frequently cleaned metal surfaces with denatured alcohol, but I couldn't tell you if it's safe on the plastics used for toys. My guess would be no.

What I can tell you is that 70% alcohol didn't touch the paint I tried to remove from TLK Sqweeks, but the 90% took it off very quickly (and deglossed a few other painted spots I didn't know was painted). 90% alcohol may not be the easiest thing to find these days though.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:50 pm

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Rogue-Primal wrote:Just a note does Ethanol/Isopropyl 70% rubbing hand alcohol work for this ? or are they rough.
Probably not. I've only ever used 90+% "rubbing alcohol" successfully. I'm not sure and I don't have the bottle handy to confirm which one it was (probably isopropyl). Honestly I didn't even know there was a difference until just now (thanks google).

I used to work in the retail paint industry and I have some familiarity with different solvents (most of which will melt plastic). We frequently cleaned metal surfaces with denatured alcohol, but I couldn't tell you if it's safe on the plastics used for toys. My guess would be no.

What I can tell you is that 70% alcohol didn't touch the paint I tried to remove from TLK Sqweeks, but the 90% took it off very quickly (and deglossed a few other painted spots I didn't know was painted). 90% alcohol may not be the easiest thing to find these days though.

91 os what we use for model trains as well.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Tuned Agent » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:13 pm

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triKlops wrote:
Tuned Agent wrote: Hopefully I can figure out a way to remove the paint around his cockpit parts. I want him to turn out well, so all advice is appreciated. :D


Just to throw in my 2 cents; blue painters tape to mask off areas and a shaved qtip for accuracy should be helpful.
All my best regarding this and good luck!

Thank you! :D This is good to know (especially about shaving a q-tip, I hadn't thought of that), I will definitely try these when the time comes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:26 pm

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I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.


Same, Lionizer and Pinpointer at least. I may need a Siege Optimus to go with Megs tho...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:03 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.

Nice, I'm hoping I see them when I grab milk and perishables this weekend. If I can find Hotlink, I can cancel my full online order
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:25 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.

Nice, I'm hoping I see them when I grab milk and perishables this weekend. If I can find Hotlink, I can cancel my full online order
I saw them at Wal-Mart. No Magnus, though.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:26 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.

Nice, I'm hoping I see them when I grab milk and perishables this weekend. If I can find Hotlink, I can cancel my full online order
I saw them at Wal-Mart. No Magnus, though.

Pretty sure I'm gonna cancel that order (he says despite not cancelling it yet and Walmart already has the money so less inclined to cancel too), hotlink is my main concern
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:29 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
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Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.

Nice, I'm hoping I see them when I grab milk and perishables this weekend. If I can find Hotlink, I can cancel my full online order
I saw them at Wal-Mart. No Magnus, though.

Pretty sure I'm gonna cancel that order (he says despite not cancelling it yet and Walmart already has the money so less inclined to cancel too), hotlink is my main concern
Well, if you want I can grab the 1 I saw and send it to you. It would cost you and extra 10 for shipping, but you'd have It for sure.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:37 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:I finally spotted the Netflix figures in the wild, and I gotta say I was not impressed. Hotlink seemed dull, the paint is just not sharp. I thought about getting it, but in-hand it was a turn off. Same with Megatron. The paintjob just didn't seem right for him. The only things I wanted out of the packs are the Battle masters.

Nice, I'm hoping I see them when I grab milk and perishables this weekend. If I can find Hotlink, I can cancel my full online order
I saw them at Wal-Mart. No Magnus, though.

Pretty sure I'm gonna cancel that order (he says despite not cancelling it yet and Walmart already has the money so less inclined to cancel too), hotlink is my main concern
Well, if you want I can grab the 1 I saw and send it to you. It would cost you and extra 10 for shipping, but you'd have It for sure.

Nah, it's no rush on my part, I have the pre-order locked in, and i already have 5 of the mold
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:17 pm

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Tuned Agent wrote:Does rubbing alcohol damage clear plastic?


I don't know but, from my experience, I much prefer alcohol to rub my stomach lining :lol:
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In hand Images of Netflix Deluxe Figures Shows Scrapface in Camera Mode

Postby william-james88 » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:32 pm

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Shajaki got a hold of all the Transformers Siege redeco deluxe figures for the Walmart exclusive Netflix subline. While we had seen them before, there was one thing missing, Scrapface's camera mode. Scrapface is a redeco of Reflector and while alone he is some kind of space faring satelite, his more awesome alt mode is the camera which can only be achieved when purchasing three of him.

For those who simply want to see what it gives as a result, you can see it below without needing to purchase 3 yourself. You can of course also see all the deluxes and what Teletraan looks like so far. The Teletraan 1 images are from Blaklai.

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