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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:07 am

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So, there's a wave 2 of this version, right? Because I'd be surprised if Optimus wasn't included in this subline
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:00 am

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I still don't understand why they would make Scrapface instead of just having Reflector in the show. Seems really odd to me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:16 am

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About those "Netflix" Siege guys:

Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Chromia: Lazy, forgot to go to the carwash in spring.

Mirage: Dafok am looking at?

The seeker, Megs, and the Refraktor team: Sexy as balls and incredible looking.

Really love the Refraktors. Make me want to buy 3 of those to complement my "G1" deco box set. But I don't think the stars will align so that I can find 3 of those at the same time on sale.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Lore Keeper » Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:29 am

The fact that there's someone that already has three Scrapfaces while US preorders have been pushed back to mid June makes me feel sadness...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:18 am

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Seibertron wrote:I still don't understand why they would make Scrapface instead of just having Reflector in the show. Seems really odd to me.


Reflector is in the show, he's in the trailers and such.

There's likely a reason for this character's existence.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:48 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Chromia: Lazy, forgot to go to the carwash in spring.

Mirage: Dafok am looking at?


They might be redundant but those paint jobs certainly are not "lazy", arguably their more painted then the normal Siege releases.


Mirage's paint job is stunning here as well, not to mention it's pretty original with the blue and such, it would make for a good stand-in for Deluge.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:17 am

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Doesn't deluge have more green on him? Mirage works though because it's his con disguise.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:28 am

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I'm really loving the backdrop, the 3D illusion really works well with it. Looks like the wave 2 Deluxes will make another back wall, two corner walls, and two floor parts. Should be cool and pretty damn big!

Have to wonder if Scrapface is actually Refractor in disguise. Their specialty is reconnaissance, that's basically spying and infiltration.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:49 am

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But isn't scrapface a Decepticon?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Master Farr 1 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:49 am

that hound reminds me if animated bulkhead
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:59 am

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Deadput wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Chromia: Lazy, forgot to go to the carwash in spring.

Mirage: Dafok am looking at?


They might be redundant but those paint jobs certainly are not "lazy", arguably their more painted then the normal Siege releases.


Mirage's paint job is stunning here as well, not to mention it's pretty original with the blue and such, it would make for a good stand-in for Deluge.


What I meant by "lazy paint job" is they just took the normal color scheme and just made them more "dirty". They could have made something clever and different but no. Just dirty, burnt, or covered in de-icing salt.

Compared to them, Mirage is ugly but different and interesting, Refraktor and Megatron have basically premium paint jobs, and that seeker is absolutely fabulous.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:22 am

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Master Farr 1 wrote:that hound reminds me if animated bulkhead
We've come full circle. Back when the first pics of Animated came out, Bulkhead's colors reminded people of Hound. ;)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:43 am

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Master Farr 1 wrote:that hound reminds me if animated bulkhead
We've come full circle. Back when the first pics of Animated came out, Bulkhead's colors reminded people of Hound. ;)


Now I wish I ordered 3 of scrapface instead of 1. Still Hopefully I'll find a couple more in stores, since I need to look for Hot Link and Hound also. I can't wait until I can go looking for toys as normal.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:46 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Doesn't deluge have more green on him? Mirage works though because it's his con disguise.


Which Deluge? The G1 Aquaspeeder?
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Or the G2 Color Changer (I'm assuming him)?
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Looks more like blue.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:51 pm

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I was thinking Aquaspeeder myself
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:37 pm

Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:47 pm

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Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:53 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.


Regardless, aside from the "battle damage" most feel like re-releases. Mirage, Scrapface and Hotlink don't, in fact they may have been designed to offset just that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:25 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:Nothing worse than a repaint that's the same character. They could have given us any of the following:

Delta Magnus
Dragstrip or Fracture
Scorch, Swindle or Detritus
Clampdown, Deep Cover, Tiger Tracks, REV or Firecracker.

As much as I love the Siege Seeker mold and I will pick up Hotlink, I don't like his burnt colour scheme. Along with the Rainmakers, his colour scheme is disappointing. At least the Rainmakers had the excuse of cartoon accuracy which would have been great in Hotlink's case.

Those characters would have only worked if they were in the Netflix series. Mirage being repainted to reflect going undercover with the cons is no different then other repaints in the series history.


Regardless, aside from the "battle damage" most feel like re-releases. Mirage, Scrapface and Hotlink don't, in fact they may have been designed to offset just that.

They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:34 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Apr 18, 2020 4:42 pm

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They are probably there to get the attention of people watching the show (hasbro will be thinking that store shelves will be full of Earthrise)
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:10 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:They are probably there to get the attention of people watching the show (hasbro will be thinking that store shelves will be full of Earthrise)


One thing is sure though. The store shelves will never be full of those Siege Netflix sets. At least, at my local Walmart. #-o
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:10 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.


I think that's exactly it. I'm betting Hasbro's expecting a significant chunk of the people who watch the show will be the type of people who watched Transformers as a kid but haven't really paid much attention to it in a while, and who might collect figures, so when the G1-ish Netflix show comes out, they'll go out wanting to buy toys for it.

Do I think that will actually end up being true, given how poorly Hasbro's marketing it so far? No, not at all, but that is what I'm betting Hasbro's logic is.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:19 pm

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:They're kinda supposed to be rereleases, though. Getting characters from the show back onto store shelves when the Netflix show comes out (of course events have mucked that up some, but that was the intent).


But why tho?
4 of them are wave 1 toys that have been clogging shelves even to this day being Hound, Sideswipe, Magnus, and Megatron. Chromia is also basically the exact same. This will also be the FOURTH time this Megs mold is being released (although it's the best one). They are way too similar to their previous release making them truly worth it only for the completist or the one who managed to completely miss the Siege line.

My only true regret is getting a trio of camera guys will be absurdly expensive and hard to get.


I think that's exactly it. I'm betting Hasbro's expecting a significant chunk of the people who watch the show will be the type of people who watched Transformers as a kid but haven't really paid much attention to it in a while, and who might collect figures, so when the G1-ish Netflix show comes out, they'll go out wanting to buy toys for it.

Do I think that will actually end up being true, given how poorly Hasbro's marketing it so far? No, not at all, but that is what I think Hasbro's logic is.


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Only at 30-ish years old, when the first Bay movie came out in 2007 did my interest in Transformers was renewed. And only well after ROTF did I started collecting Transformers in 2010. The Bay movies brought me back.

So I can see that the Netflix series could do the same to many adult fans. That is, if the Netflix series is good and well done compared to the horrible Machinima series. The Siege line is pretty much gone from store shelves by now so those Netflix boxes make perfect sense.
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