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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat May 09, 2020 1:03 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
And I say CW Optimus is closer, while also fixing the vehicle mode scale issue. So nyeh :P
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Postby Skritz » Sat May 09, 2020 1:05 pm

TF scale will always be a mess until we invent mass shifting! :HEADHURTS:
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Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat May 09, 2020 1:07 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And I say CW Optimus is closer, while also fixing the vehicle mode scale issue. So nyeh :P


Scale wise, CW Optimus is perfect for sure. And the vehicle mode is nice enough. But the bot look wonky and the truck torso for the combiner is pretty bad.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat May 09, 2020 1:19 pm

Motto: "Earthrise restock or riot"
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And I say CW Optimus is closer, while also fixing the vehicle mode scale issue. So nyeh :P


Scale wise, CW Optimus is perfect for sure. And the vehicle mode is nice enough. But the bot look wonky and the truck torso for the combiner is pretty bad.

But eh, "true" perfection is an impossibility for anything and everything.
Well, I don't mind CW Optimus' bot mode (it beats the pants off Wedgepecs McCabarms, the other CHUG Voyager 1984-esque Optimus at the time I got him) and I don't use the torso mode.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sat May 09, 2020 3:20 pm

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I really don't like the base CW Optimus his proportions are a bit too "Optimus Primal" for me, it certainly works better in the "Nova Prime" Battle Core which you can guess who I use it for.

It's just too different from a traditional Optimus to really "work" ideally which is probably due to the mold probably being designed as Motormaster first.

Siege/Earthrise Optimus are the perfect proportion style for me, I like Optimus as a slightly taller then middle height guy but with Autobots taller then him being more uncommon rather then rare.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sat May 09, 2020 3:31 pm

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I highly recommend the Megatron set, :CON: Mirage, and Scrapface. They all have great decos and the last two are basically new characters.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Sat May 09, 2020 5:14 pm

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I was today years old when I learned I want a titan class cruise ship Transformer. :lol:

I've been very happy with the current push for robot scale accuracy across the lines, but ultimately scale in TFs is a fool's errand.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sat May 09, 2020 7:03 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote: Personally, I love that scale obsession.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusRex » Sun May 10, 2020 12:21 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I personally don't think we've had a perfect "proper" CHUG version of G1 Optimus yet, they've all had their flaws...


Every single figures that ever existed and ever will, will be flawed one way or another.
For Optimus, general consensus is that the Earthrise Leader is like a budget Masterpiece because he's so amazing. Even if the trailer is a bit barebone.
Proof is he's been sold out everywhere at full price and is impossible to order online without a markup. Also, I've yet to find a single negative video review.

If Siege Megs is a "good enough" toy, so is Siege Optimus. But ER Optimus is pretty much perfection for correcting the Siege's flaws and adding features.

For me, Siege Megs look perfect in bot mode but the tank is iffy. His main problem is that he's also not too fun to transform because too many things feel "not solid" in hand. Maybe Earthrise Megs will pull a ER Optimus and correct the flaws that the Siege one had and improve the overall feel?


I think ER Optimus benefits from a head swap with Siege and I'm thinking ER Megatron will be the same.

The question is WHICH Siege Megatron? The hand painted proto looks like a silver that matches Netflix and the CG renders look like the same gray as vanilla Siege.

The tank mode looks better and the crotch, chins, and abs are all more toon accurate. The tank barrel is a bit inelegant but I saw it somewhere wielded as a trident and it works better in that form.

The Earthrise Megs head is a very obvious G2 Megatron pretool. I expect that deco to be very popular and go well with people's TF vs. Joe collections, which will get a couple of boosts this year. There was supposed to be a TF vs Joe SDCC set and Scrapface is a Scrapiron tribute. Pair with Funpub's SerpentOR, BAT drones, and a few Combiner Wars Vipers for a Decepticobra minifaction.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun May 10, 2020 2:34 pm

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I was reading on the new top 5 list about the netflix megs, it said that it fixed an issue with the ankles, I'm really interested in knowing just what this new production run fixes, as I'd easily get it if enough of the molds problems were ironed out; does the head plate stay in place, or does it still fall into the chest whenever it's touched? Is the plastic different, the siege one felt really cheap around the legs/ankles
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun May 10, 2020 2:43 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I was reading on the new top 5 list about the netflix megs, it said that it fixed an issue with the ankles, I'm really interested in knowing just what this new production run fixes, as I'd easily get it if enough of the molds problems were ironed out; does the head plate stay in place, or does it still fall into the chest whenever it's touched? Is the plastic different, the siege one felt really cheap around the legs/ankles


The tolerances on the head were adjusted with the Walmart 35th Anniversary release. The Netflix one is said to have the ankles adjusted for easier posing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun May 10, 2020 3:02 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:I was reading on the new top 5 list about the netflix megs, it said that it fixed an issue with the ankles, I'm really interested in knowing just what this new production run fixes, as I'd easily get it if enough of the molds problems were ironed out; does the head plate stay in place, or does it still fall into the chest whenever it's touched? Is the plastic different, the siege one felt really cheap around the legs/ankles


The tolerances on the head were adjusted with the Walmart 35th Anniversary release. The Netflix one is said to have the ankles adjusted for easier posing.

I'd beg to differ on the walmart runs being fixed (not only was mine loose, but the figure was covered in leftover plastic from the factory molds), but that ankle fix does sound interesting :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun May 10, 2020 3:20 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:I was reading on the new top 5 list about the netflix megs, it said that it fixed an issue with the ankles, I'm really interested in knowing just what this new production run fixes, as I'd easily get it if enough of the molds problems were ironed out; does the head plate stay in place, or does it still fall into the chest whenever it's touched? Is the plastic different, the siege one felt really cheap around the legs/ankles


The tolerances on the head were adjusted with the Walmart 35th Anniversary release. The Netflix one is said to have the ankles adjusted for easier posing.

I'd beg to differ on the walmart runs being fixed (not only was mine loose, but the figure was covered in leftover plastic from the factory molds), but that ankle fix does sound interesting :-?


I said adjusted, not fixed :P Hinges with metal pins are a hit and miss, really. Not only with tolerances, but also in what direction the pin is inserted: I've had my fair share of misaligned ones. I keep forgetting to look up how to knock them out.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 10, 2020 8:33 pm

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Regarding a perfect Optimus, to me, Siege Optimus is perfect. He is my main generations Prime, and will probably stand there for a while. He is so good, and I am just not a fan of the Earthrise one.

As for Megatron, I got the G2 one from the Siege mold, but that was it, don't really have a desire to get the netflix one no matter how shiny. TR will remain my main con Megatron, with different molds serving as the G2 voyagers.

Still no signs of Hotlink around here. I have the pre-order but it would be nice to cancel it.

Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard. Same 12 have been at my local Walmart for the past 3 months.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun May 10, 2020 9:22 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard.

Isn't that the same toy?
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 10, 2020 9:30 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard.

Isn't that the same toy?

Meant to say cell shaded and retail one, my bad.

Both are warming side by side
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Sun May 10, 2020 9:33 pm

I just opened my Netflix Megatron and pulled over my 35th Anniversary cell-shaded Megatron to compare. The neck is definitely tighter than the cell-shaded one but I never noticed a major problem with the cell-shaded one, unlike the complaints about Siege Megatron. The ankles do feel sturdier and smoother, solid across the full tilts. The cell-shaded one has ankles that pop into place so when you pop them out they tilt but there isn't a lot of strength to it, kinda floppy but still holds decent poses. I even feel a difference just holding them in my hand and I don't know if it is just the paint or what.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sun May 10, 2020 9:52 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard.

Isn't that the same toy?

Meant to say cell shaded and retail one, my bad.

Both are warming side by side

To be fair, they all are. I can get Bluestreak, Megatron, Optimus or to lesser extent even Soundblaster.

Regular Megatrom got made more - I distinctly remember not being able to get him at one point.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun May 10, 2020 9:53 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard.

Isn't that the same toy?

Meant to say cell shaded and retail one, my bad.

Both are warming side by side

To be fair, they all are. I can get Bluestreak, Megatron, Optimus or to lesser extent even Soundblaster.

Regular Megatrom got made more - I distinctly remember not being able to get him at one point.

Bluestreaks have warmed here too. Soundblaster was the one that went first and fastest, followed slowly by Optimus. We are now left with the Streaks and Megs.

Kinda annoying too, since both versions of Megatron are holding up new product. It's sad that the new wave of SS has moved in too, but Earthrise voyagers have yet to arrive. I suspect this might also be why the Netflix figures haven't arrived yet either
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sun May 10, 2020 10:03 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Both the 35th Megatron and cell shaded one are warming around here hard.

Isn't that the same toy?

Meant to say cell shaded and retail one, my bad.

Both are warming side by side

To be fair, they all are. I can get Bluestreak, Megatron, Optimus or to lesser extent even Soundblaster.

Regular Megatrom got made more - I distinctly remember not being able to get him at one point.

Bluestreaks have warmed here too. Soundblaster was the one that went first and fastest, followed slowly by Optimus. We are now left with the Streaks and Megs.

Kinda annoying too, since both versions of Megatron are holding up new product. It's sad that the new wave of SS has moved in too, but Earthrise voyagers have yet to arrive. I suspect this might also be why the Netflix figures haven't arrived yet either

Yeah, I want that Megatron bad. I think I'm gonna pass on Hotlink.

The funny thing is the same Walmart that has all those 35th figures is the same Walmart I got Starscream and Grapple from. They only ever (that I saw) got the Voyagers - nothing else.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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sol magnus wrote:Yeah, I want that Megatron bad. I think I'm gonna pass on Hotlink.

The funny thing is the same Walmart that has all those 35th figures is the same Walmart I got Starscream and Grapple from. They only ever (that I saw) got the Voyagers - nothing else.

I'm the opposite, compete a seeker selection. I'm hoping for some strange coneheads and a few vanilla ER seekers to finish the collection, or more Siege tetrajets.

Distribution has been wonky, I have not seen more than the battle/micros at the same store yet
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sun May 10, 2020 10:55 pm

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sol magnus wrote:Yeah, I want that Megatron bad. I think I'm gonna pass on Hotlink.

The funny thing is the same Walmart that has all those 35th figures is the same Walmart I got Starscream and Grapple from. They only ever (that I saw) got the Voyagers - nothing else.

I'm the opposite, compete a seeker selection. I'm hoping for some strange coneheads and a few vanilla ER seekers to finish the collection, or more Siege tetrajets.

Distribution has been wonky, I have not seen more than the battle/micros at the same store yet

I chose to stick with the main three seekers with Siege, but if they make any of the coneheads (besides Thrust, who we know we're getting) I will be getting them. I had to keep some standards of fiscal responsibility with my collecting, so I couldn't get everything. Now I have a son who's gone full on Transformers crazy to boot, but that's my fault.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 11, 2020 1:20 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Kinda annoying too, since both versions of Megatron are holding up new product. It's sad that the new wave of SS has moved in too, but Earthrise voyagers have yet to arrive. I suspect this might also be why the Netflix figures haven't arrived yet either
At Wal-Mart the Netflix figures, all 3 sizes, have their own spots on the shelf and pegs. They don't get mixed with the Siege and Earthrise stuff, so I doubt having an abundance of Siege has any effect on the Netflix line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon May 11, 2020 10:42 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Kinda annoying too, since both versions of Megatron are holding up new product. It's sad that the new wave of SS has moved in too, but Earthrise voyagers have yet to arrive. I suspect this might also be why the Netflix figures haven't arrived yet either
At Wal-Mart the Netflix figures, all 3 sizes, have their own spots on the shelf and pegs. They don't get mixed with the Siege and Earthrise stuff, so I doubt having an abundance of Siege has any effect on the Netflix line.


Maybe at your stores, but near me, the deluxes are just mixed in with Siege. Voyagers and Leader/spoiler box have their own spots, but they also have a different price. No different price tag for the deluxes.
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