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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:20 pm

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You know, it just hit me. Optimus with his giant roof backpack makes him look like he's wearing Sideswipe's rocket pack from "MTMTE Part 3".
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:37 pm

kurthy wrote:I'm interested in the smaller characters that haven't seen a release since the '80s. I like the magnus a lot but I'll probably wait for a special version without weathering.
;)^ ;)^ ;)^

That's how I'm starting to feel about OP, I really don't like that "weathering" on him. Sideswipe has some but it doesn't compromise the figure.

I'm also thinking they'll finally release a Legends class "Reflector" but only because I finally gave up on waiting and bought the Papa Toy's version back in June.

So other than them and Cliffjumper what other Legends class figures are we missing...?

A few more Cassettes maybe? They could all use new figures along with a new Voyager class Soundwave and Blaster. I passed on those Leaders and most of those cassettes save for Rewinds thanks to IDW's character over him. But even that one is a place holder for something that could be much better. Otherwise I'll just stick with FOC Soundwave (or the TRU G1 reissue) and FOC Blaster, PE Rumble and Frenzy and MP Ravage, Buzzsaw and Laserbeak.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:12 pm

Sabrblade wrote:You know, it just hit me. Optimus with his giant roof backpack makes him look like he's wearing Sideswipe's rocket pack from "MTMTE Part 3".


One thing I've noticed about Siege is that they realized that, since figured tend to have 'kibble backpacks' they at least bothered to put some 5mm ports on them, in particular around the shoulders to interact with the guns on Cog. Seems like an interesting workaround what would normally be an engineering weakness: turn it into a 'platform' to attach weapons.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:19 pm

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Dion! :x

Everyone so yummy! Especially Cog! Fortmax Legends won't be lonely anymore!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:27 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Dion! :x
Where?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:45 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Dion! :x
Where?


Somewhere safe and warm. :-P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:49 pm

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Overcracker wrote:I'd say, possibly that the silver gun we saw previously was just a spur of the moment deal, and it'll actually be red for the final product.


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:53 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I'd say, possibly that the silver gun we saw previously was just a spur of the moment deal, and it'll actually be red for the final product.


As an homage to this?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby President-prime » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:13 am

Don’t know about the line, but these figures look disappointing. The weathering paints look crappy. Like some of you have mentioned, it makes the toy look amateurishly painted. And it’s during the war on Cybertron. How come the alternate mode doesn’t look Cybertronian? Sideswipe l’snrobot mode looks almosT like his classic line self. Prob gonna skip Most of these, unless they look better on hand. We’ll see. More money saved, I suppose.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby noctorro » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:00 am

ThunderThruster wrote:You can keep Prime, but I need that Magnus.


Holy #$@%#$, I almost chocked.

This is litterally, objectivly thé best Optimus Prime we've ever had. How can you pass on that? (if you don't like G1 okay, if you're more into something else but you like Ultra Magnus)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:54 am

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noctorro wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:You can keep Prime, but I need that Magnus.


Holy #$@%#$, I almost chocked.

This is litterally, objectivly thé best Optimus Prime we've ever had. How can you pass on that? (if you don't like G1 okay, if you're more into something else but you like Ultra Magnus)

I have the same opinion regarding my interest in these two figures, so even though my reasoning's probably different, I'll throw in my two cents: I do my best to stick to only one figure per unique character, so since I already have an Optimus I therefore don't need this one. I don't have a Magnus though, and he looks amazing, so I do want him. Plus, I wouldn't really be into this Prime anyway even if I needed one, his design is too straight G1/too bland and his alt mode isn't Cybertronian enough. I have nothing against G1, but I don't have nostalgia for it since I was born after the fact, so some of the overly generic G1 designs just bore me, like this Siege Prime and Sideswipe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:21 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:I have nothing against G1, but I don't have nostalgia for it since I was born after the fact, so some of the overly generic G1 designs just bore me, like this Siege Prime and Sideswipe.


I was born in 79 and lived through G1 yet I find some of the designs like Sideswipe very dull (his G1 self has ALWAYS been boring 'cept for being a Countach in his original toy) but I will say Prime here has a nice G1 form for those who need it in Voyager scale finally. Truck mode is kinda ugly in it's extreme boxiness but eh can't have everything. I'm tempted to buy it to replace the Classics Prime I have just to have a G1-style Prime in my otherwise mostly movie collection just for reasons (like I'm using Titans Return Megatron with a scaled down CW Leader Class Megatron head for my G1 Megatron to pose with my movie Megatron figures)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RotorstormNZ » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:24 am

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Suddenly Sideswipe is now a Need instead of a Maybe If I Have The Money. He looks great.

The first picture of Magnus almost killed my interest in him, though: the weathering on the chest plate is not something I'm a fan of. And after making the pics larger and having a second look, I too am hoping there'll either be a weathering-free release or that it'll be easy to remove...I love the mould, love the look, am getting increasingly disappointed by the weathering.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:39 am

Wow, they've raised up the prices on every size-class. And because of the accursed "brand unification" Optimus Prime's crutch is still unpainted.

The "wear effect" still hasn't grown on me, it's even kind of gross, it looks as though they've been played by kids with dirty hands. Still, the molds are cool, so considering everything (including the fact that I have MPs of these guys) I don't know who to buy if any. Maybe I'll wait for AE they're usually cheaper, though you have to pay upfront.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby noctorro » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:57 am

Heresy!

#joke

Anyway, I've been wanting a G1 voyager sized Optimus since... since they had the size class called voyager (mega in the old day). That's why I like Energon Optimus, he's very close to that design chest=windshield etc. (besides form being to fat and the colors)

And Power of the Primes Optimus was kind of a letdown with it's fake windshields all over the damn place.

I love Sideswipe and don't mind it's dull appearance (I'm thinking I typed that wrong). I like the character and I like G1 a lot.

Ultra Magnus looks like a monster, very War for Cybertron, will get him and keep the Generations one for more of a G1 look.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:03 am

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noctorro wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:You can keep Prime, but I need that Magnus.


Holy #$@%#$, I almost chocked.

This is litterally, objectivly thé best Optimus Prime we've ever had. How can you pass on that? (if you don't like G1 okay, if you're more into something else but you like Ultra Magnus)

I'm in the same boat. Prime looks like his vehicle mode was an after thought, aorta like they designed a new Prime, but then realised they needed to make it Cybertronian. Magnus on the other hand has an alt mode that references another version of the character, but still looks Cybertronian. Plus, as far as Prime's go, I already have POTP Prime and both Prime's from Titans Return, but I missed CW Magnus
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:27 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ultra Magnus retooled into Cybertron Optimus Prime. Look at the guns on the legs.

I'm not against it happening, but the guns on his legs are based on the blue swinging gun mounts on the sides of RID UM.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:54 am

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noctorro wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:You can keep Prime, but I need that Magnus.


Holy #$@%#$, I almost chocked.

This is litterally, objectivly thé best Optimus Prime we've ever had. How can you pass on that? (if you don't like G1 okay, if you're more into something else but you like Ultra Magnus)


See, I like G1, I grew up on the G1 toon, but that doesn't mean I want the same characters and designs being rehashed every few years.
When Classics first started, it was about updating the old designs, not just in articulation, but also style. And IMO classics Prime is still the go to figure to fit this ideology.
If I wanted a new 'G1' Prime, I'd go for an MP figure, not this new Siege figure.

As for Magnus, this is so far (again IMO) the best take we've seen on the White inner bot with trailer armour, that I may retire City Commander as my main Magnus and put him with the other 'cool looking mechs' collection.
I didn't get Minimus Ambus with armour CW Magnus, as despite the radical ingenuity of the character concept, it really doesn't connect with me.
Add to all that, I prefer Magnus over Prime, and even got MP02 instead of MP01.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:14 am

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I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:50 am

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leokearon wrote:I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus

I think you are protesting a bit too much ;-) :lol:

All I need now is a stop motion video of Siege Magnus armouring up and I'll be getting him... Some how, :-?
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Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:12 am

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Site Sponsor HLJ has just sent us word that they now have preorders for the Takara release of the Siege line and Power of the Primes Punch Counterpunch. All preorders can be found by clicking here. As you will see some of the prices are closer to the Hasbro MSRP in the US while others are higher. Since these are for the exact same toys, this proves that the difference in prices between Hasbro and Takara releases over the years was never due to the products being different but more that they were released in different markets.

Also we now have proof that Punch Conterpunch comes with a combiner hand and a special edition Solus Prime. He does happen to be the same price as the Siege deluxes.

We've just listed the following 7 new action figures for preorder from the Transformers Siege line. All figures are expected to be released in February 2019.

Each of these new releases full transforms and includes accessories respective to the character. Ultra Magus also features 3mm hard points and 5mm ports, so you can attach additional armor, weapons, effect parts, battle damaged parts and so forth.

Prices are as follows:

Transformers Siege SG-01 Firedrive: 720 yen (about $6.78 USD or 5.85 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-02 Lionizer: 720 yen (about $6.78 USD or 5.85 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-03 Roadhandler & Swindler: 1,440 yen (about $13.55 USD or 11.69 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-04 Sideswipe: 2,800 yen (about $26.35 USD or 22.73 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-05 Autobot Cog: 2,800 yen (about $26.35 USD or 22.73 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-06 Optimus Prime: 4,400 yen (about $41.41 USD or 35.72 Euro)

Transformers Siege SG-07 Ultra Magnus: 6,800 yen (about $64.00 USD or 55.20 Euro)


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:36 am

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ThunderThruster wrote:When Classics first started, it was about updating the old designs, not just in articulation, but also style. And IMO classics Prime is still the go to figure to fit this ideology.
If I wanted a new 'G1' Prime, I'd go for an MP figure, not this new Siege figure.



But MP Prime is expensive and doesn't scale well with 'regular' Transformer figures so I can see the appeal of this Siege one at least in robot mode because we've never really had a decent G1 Voyager class Optimus Prime figure. Just a shame the truck mode is 'cybertronian'.


And for those bothered about the weathering paint apps? That sorta stuff comes off real easily. I even removed some silver factory paint off the legs on my Studio Series Ratchet (just a smidge where they put silver paint where they shouldn't be) with a lil gentle scrubbing. So while it might be annoying to some that Hasbro are 'wasting' paint budget by doing it, well at least you can take it off if you want (though won't be mint anymore) :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:10 am

I'm here for Siege Prime. I had the Classics figure but the vehicle update meant I couldn't see it as G1. The Siege vehicle mode isn't pure either, but the bot accuracy makes up for that. And maybe I'm in the minority but I'm not worried about the weathering.

I'm perfectly happy with CW Magnus so I'm going to pass on that. $50 is a lot for an incremental change on a figure that's only 3 years old. RiD was after my time, though, so I don't have the nostalgia angle.

We're not expecting Legends class in Siege, right? Might have to wait until next year for a good Cliffjumper?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby leokearon » Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:26 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
leokearon wrote:I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus
I don't need another Ultra Magnus

I think you are protesting a bit too much ;-) :lol:

All I need now is a stop motion video of Siege Magnus armouring up and I'll be getting him... Some how, :-?


I'm not protesting, I trying to convince myself I don't need another version of my favourite TF. (so far I'm failing)
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