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[Wolfman Jake]

Meh, I'm just gonna wait for Hasbro to get the hint and release Thundercracker and Skywarp with the pins.

Lol, all I can do is wait since there is no sign of these in Canada yet anyway.

We're only barely, just now, getting any sign of SIEGE wave 2 in Canada Jr. (a.k.a., Minnesota). The Studio Series has been going strong, though. I've seen everything except Rampage and SS-38 Optimus Prime now.

[william-james88]

Meh, I'm just gonna wait for Hasbro to get the hint and release Thundercracker and Skywarp with the pins.

Lol, all I can do is wait since there is no sign of these in Canada yet anyway.

We're only barely, just now, getting any sign of SIEGE wave 2 in Canada Jr. (a.k.a., Minnesota). The Studio Series has been going strong, though. I've seen everything except Rampage and SS-38 Optimus Prime now.

We have had nothing new in Studio Series since the end of 2018 at big box stores. Very odd since that's a series I would guess stores would want to stock a ton of.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

By the way am I the only bugged by the lack of talk of a Siege Ratbat as well as Frenzy and Rumble. Or was it Frenzy and Rumble?

We know everything up to Wave 3 and Deluxe Wave 4, and they're not among them. From the looks of it, that's all we're getting.

[Hellscream9999]

By the way am I the only bugged by the lack of talk of a Siege Ratbat as well as Frenzy and Rumble. Or was it Frenzy and Rumble?

We know everything up to Wave 3 and Deluxe Wave 4, and they're not among them. From the looks of it, that's all we're getting.

Well, remember, they're cassette's square's, so they'd be micromasters

[william-james88]

By the way am I the only bugged by the lack of talk of a Siege Ratbat as well as Frenzy and Rumble. Or was it Frenzy and Rumble?

We know everything up to Wave 3 and Deluxe Wave 4, and they're not among them. From the looks of it, that's all we're getting.

I am confused, why would they be deluxes, they would be in the Battlemaster class in Siege. And we dont know all of those yet, right?

[Skritz]

I really hope we somehow get more of Soundwave's chest cavity-pets.

[Flashwave]

By the way am I the only bugged by the lack of talk of a Siege Ratbat as well as Frenzy and Rumble. Or was it Frenzy and Rumble?

We know everything up to Wave 3 and Deluxe Wave 4, and they're not among them. From the looks of it, that's all we're getting.

I am confused, why would they be deluxes, they would be in the Battlemaster class in Siege. And we dont know all of those yet, right?

Presumably we know of W3, the two that were revealed at the Australia Show. (2 con car redecos and the LandRover/Semi pair). ThT just leaves W4 assuming the BMs are quarterly.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Never said they'd be Deluxe, just saying up to what we know. And if they intent on keeping up the Class order for the numbering (Battle Master -> Micromaster -> Deluxe -> Voyager -> Leader), then I may have some bad news:

Wave 3 (with Leader Wave 2)
S38: Autobot Springer
S39: Thundercracker
S40: Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime

Wave 4
S41: Barricade
S42: Autobot Impactor
S43: Mirage

Mind you, the Deluxe Wave may be sent ahead of the rest, who knows? But remember, PotP had 3 Waves worth of new figures with an extra Deluxe one.

[Emerje]

I still suspect waves don't really mean anything and they're going to do like Siege and just keep the counts going into the next chapter of the trilogy, simply swapping out the Siege on the box for something else. It's the War for Cybertron line first and foremost, the subtitle probably doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things which should be good for retailers and judging by wave 4 we're continuing to get full waves through Siege.

We do have a few empty slots. 26 and 27 are probably Skywarp and the Firestormer set, but 33 and 34 seem to be unannounced Micromaster sets. I think Offroad Patrol might be one of them even though TFWiki lists them as wave 4. Either wave 4 doesn't exist which contradicts everything I wrote above or it gets skipped in the numbering and returns at a higher number with Offroad Patrol.

Emerje

[no-one]

We do have a few empty slots. 26 and 27 are probably Skywarp and the Firestormer set, but 33 and 34 seem to be unannounced Micromaster sets. I think Offroad Patrol might be one of them even though TFWiki lists them as wave 4. Either wave 4 doesn't exist which contradicts everything I wrote above or it gets skipped in the numbering and returns at a higher number with Offroad Patrol.

Emerje

I was curious so I checked out the TFwiki and the Hasbro's map. 34 is on the map so it makes sense to be deluxe or larger. 48, 49, 50 & 51 are also on the map. If there will be a figure for each number, that's four additional Battle Masters and/or Micromasters

[SGMLordMirage]

Finally found Soundwave. Stopped by a Walmart (Colonial Heights, VA) on my way to work this morning and there sat two Soundwaves and two Starscreams.

Other than that, its been pretty dry on the shelves!

SGM

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Soundwave and starscream came today, starscream has zero pins on his chest,
we most likely have been smeckledorfed

[SGMLordMirage]

Yep, the two I saw, there was NO metal pins.

[starrhero]

From what I've seen on r/Transformers, someone had emailed Hasbro directly asking wether or not there was going to be a pin added to later runs of the figure. Long story short, Hasbro has no current plans to do so, and from their wording in the email itself, Skywarp and Thundercracker wont have the pin either. Though they do know the fans have been asking about the pin and took it into consideration.

So no, there is not goinig to be any running change with the seekers anytime soon, the twitter post was most likely a custom job accidentally spread around as a false fix.

[SGMLordMirage]

That’s what it seems.

Of note, Peaugh’s video showing what he did in order to fix the chest piece is an option for some..

[william-james88]

From what I've seen on r/Transformers, someone had emailed Hasbro directly asking wether or not there was going to be a pin added to later runs of the figure. Long story short, Hasbro has no current plans to do so, and from their wording in the email itself, Skywarp and Thundercracker wont have the pin either. Though they do know the fans have been asking about the pin and took it into consideration.

So no, there is not goinig to be any running change with the seekers anytime soon, the twitter post was most likely a custom job accidentally spread around as a false fix.

It wasnt an accident, the person said they found him like that at Walmart. It was probably a lie then.

[starrhero]

Here's the link to the reddit post where the user talks about their email response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... tarscream/

Don't really see the purpose for the guy to have lied about seeing a running change happen, but he did it seems, and there's nothing much we can do about it other than acknowledge it.

[william-james88]

Here's the link to the reddit post where the user talks about their email response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... tarscream/

Don't really see the purpose for the guy to have lied about seeing a running change happen, but he did it seems, and there's nothing much we can do about it other than acknowledge it.

Doesn't the following line being in the past tense instead indicate that there could indeed be a running change?

it is entirely possible that our design teams considered our fan base when creating the latest version of Starscream.

If hasbro said there should be no versions out there with pins then that would help, but they don't.

[Rainmaker]

So far every Siege figure for me is a buy and I don't know if that's a good or bad thing

[starrhero]

Here's the link to the reddit post where the user talks about their email response:

https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... tarscream/

Don't really see the purpose for the guy to have lied about seeing a running change happen, but he did it seems, and there's nothing much we can do about it other than acknowledge it.

Doesn't the following line being in the past tense instead indicate that there could indeed be a running change?

it is entirely possible that our design teams considered our fan base when creating the latest version of Starscream.

If hasbro said there should be no versions out there with pins then that would help, but they don't.

It could mean that there could be a running change, but why would Hasbro not know about it?

it is entirely possible that our design teams considered our fan base when creating the latest version of Starscream.

From the way they worded it, it sounds like they just heard of this from the redditor who emailed them. I feel if a figure gets a running change, no matter how small it is, Hasbro officals should at least know about it. From the way they word it, it sounds like they're saying 'it could have gotten changed, but we weren't told, so...'

Granted, that's just my interpretation. I could be totally wrong and there is a real chance that there is a running change. I feel it would just be weird for Hasbro to not fully know that their one of their figures had a slight running change. Not only that, but we haven't seen any other Screamer with a pin already built into the figure as of now, so I suppose it's still somewhat up in the air. I do hope I am wrong, as it would be nice to get a pin for Screamer's chestpiece.

[TF-fan kev777]

I feel it would just be weird for Hasbro to not fully know that their one of their figures had a slight running change.

To be fair, didn't the same design team not realize that CW G2 Bruticus had the wrong (G1) faction symbols when asked about it over a year after it was out? I believe their answer was, "G2 Bruticus has the wrong symbols?"

[william-james88]

I feel it would just be weird for Hasbro to not fully know that their one of their figures had a slight running change.

To be fair, didn't the same design team not realize that CW G2 Bruticus had the wrong (G1) faction symbols when asked about it over a year after it was out? I believe their answer was, "G2 Bruticus has the wrong symbols?"

They were not surprised, they knew he did and simply sighed saying that they try hard for stuff like this not to happen.

The really clueless one was the marketting manager who was trying to reason out why the word Beast Wars was on the side of one of the TR boxsets.

[Wolfman Jake]

The really clueless one was the marketting manager who was trying to reason out why the word Beast Wars was on the side of one of the TR boxsets.

Did we ever figure that mystery out?

[o.supreme]

The really clueless one was the marketting manager who was trying to reason out why the word Beast Wars was on the side of one of the TR boxsets.

For the Eukaris Box set that would have included TM Scorponok, Wingspan, Grotusque & animal themed Voyager & Leader Figures that never happened.

[william-james88]

The really clueless one was the marketting manager who was trying to reason out why the word Beast Wars was on the side of one of the TR boxsets.

Did we ever figure that mystery out?

Just a random mistake they obviously wont admit to.