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Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:18 am

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I've actually been using the old WFC/FOC figures that I have as additional troops. Granted, I don't have many of them considering I wasn't collecting at the time a lot of them were released. The ones I did already have was Ruination (always loved combiners), Blaster with Ramhorn and Eject in addition and that legends Bumblebee from T30. Then I picked up the T30 Seekers and might pick up the deluxe Cliffjumper so he can be a different mold than Bumblebee. The lack of blockiness for the WFC/FOC figures isn't really too bad because the new WFC figures are stylized versions with more greeble anyway
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:11 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:49 pm

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I don't think Soundwave is suppose to throw Ravage...and hey my hand makes a cameo
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:59 pm

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I picked up Starscream today. While he isn't as bad as has been made out, he defiantly breaks the streak of Decepticon voyagers being freaking awesome. :(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:05 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:I picked up Starscream today. While he isn't as bad as has been made out, he defiantly breaks the streak of Decepticon voyagers being freaking awesome. :(
I'm trying hard to hold out for a slight discount on Starscream. Bot mode looked good (better than expected in person), but I'm still not sold on the tetrajet with legs.

Soundwave on the other hand is murdering it. I even like his weird space barge thing.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:09 pm

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Soundwave is one of the better Generations figures made in a long time.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:14 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:Soundwave is one of the better Generations figures made in a long time.
I had a lot of fun tinkering with his lamp post mode.

I could never settle on anything else to do with his arms, but I did change the legs up from the official configuration. Speaking of, lamp post mode is an intended bonus as there are pegs that hold his arms only in this mode.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:49 pm

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So looking around online, I'm seeing the Deluxe size toys going for around $30 Canadian. Is that right? Can other Canadians confirm the price for me as I haven't been to any shops for a while due to no money.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Sat Mar 23, 2019 3:11 pm

Motto: "shelf space may be fleeting, but plastic is forever"
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I can't remember if this has been shared but here's John Warden talking more about Omega Supreme.

https://hasbropulse.com/blogs/news/hasb ... hn-w-part2
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:07 pm

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does anyone else have a soundwave who yeets cassetticons out of him?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:30 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:03 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Soundwave is one of the better Generations figures made in a long time.
I have to agree. At first I wasn't very impressed, but after playing with him for a while, he's my 2nd favorite Siege figure behind Optimus.

And cary, :lol: :lol: :lol: @ that pic.

Now if only Bee and Wheeljack got their Cybertronian modes from MtMtE as well, it would be great.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:12 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I wonder if the individual reflector figures can be used as guns for larger robots?

Based on the pictures I can't tell, but with the sheer number of 5mm ports on these figures it probably wouldn't be hard to make an adapter.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:24 pm

carytheone wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:I picked up Starscream today. While he isn't as bad as has been made out, he defiantly breaks the streak of Decepticon voyagers being freaking awesome. :(
I'm trying hard to hold out for a slight discount on Starscream. Bot mode looked good (better than expected in person), but I'm still not sold on the tetrajet with legs.

Soundwave on the other hand is murdering it. I even like his weird space barge thing.

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Starscream will be one of the only voyagers to be available at good discounts later since he is being repacked. You just have to wait 5 months.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So looking around online, I'm seeing the Deluxe size toys going for around $30 Canadian. Is that right? Can other Canadians confirm the price for me as I haven't been to any shops for a while due to no money.


Yup, thats the standard price point in canada for all deluxes this year.
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John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:41 pm

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Not too long ago, there was an interview with John Warden where he spoke about the design work for the upcoming War for Cybertron Siege Omega Supreme. Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

Check it out below!

We’re back with Part 2 of our Hasbro Pulse: Behind the Design with John W. from the Transformers design team. Read on for more designer details on the recently revealed War for Cybertron: Siege – Omega Supreme figure.

Hasbro Pulse:
Between the G1 show, comic books, previous Omega Supreme figures—how did you decide on the design for this figure?

John:
We had a couple of big meetings between Takara Tomy and Hasbro. I still recall a moment when I think Hasui-san came here to the United States and he brought a cut-out standee of the character based on the G1 cartoon style. Fans of the cartoon know that it’s simplistic, with a lot of smooth surfaces, and the proportions are slightly different. They’re subtle, but noticeable differences.

When we looked at that collectively as a team, our pushback was to have more of that concept art feel to it, with a lot more surface details to make it feel sophisticated and detailed, because the rest of the Siege line is covered with lots of little details that aren’t really evident in the G1 cartoon series. Hasui took that information back to Japan and worked with the designer, Kunihiro-san, who is a big fan of putting lots of detail into things – he really ran with this direction. He’s a scale modeler and is one of the original Transformers designers who worked on Star Saber, and some of the legendary characters from the late 80s and early 90s. We blended the world of G1 and the more concept art feel and brought to life this new style that is detailed and has lots of panels and extra pieces that weren’t there before.

One of the biggest challenges from an aesthetic standpoint is how do you not disappoint the G1 fans, but also continue to push the brand forward and keep it in line with the gritty, war-torn story that we’re telling with War for Cybertron: Siege. I’m really happy with the balance that we struck between the two – it hopefully satisfies the G1 fans, but it also pushes us into a cool new place for fans that are starting to collect this new Cybertron universe.

Hasbro Pulse:
Once you’ve decided, “OK, we’re doing a massive two-foot Omega Supreme figure”, what comes next? What’s the process like? How do we get from an idea to final product?

John:
We start with determining scale. How big is it, how big can we afford to do for the price point and still provide a good value to the consumer? What is the list of priority things we want to do? And then Takara Tomy comes back and they provide an early idea of their vision and how it’s going to convert.

Kunihiro would put together loose sketches on graph paper, figuring out all the major geometry of the figure. They come back to us with a proposal of the basic forms and we will provide extra reference on detail. Sometimes we’ll work with commissioned artists from around the world to bring a level of finish to it. Takara will take that and work with their model makers, taking some of the detail illustrations and build it into the 3-D model.

The 3-D model then allows them to test the conversions and identify any part interference. We go back-and-forth on a number of parts, details, and sketch in different areas -- “change this,” “make this piece bigger,” “make this piece smaller.” And then once we’re all in agreement, a gray model is created – this is the exciting part! Takara Tomy will create this literal, gray, one-of-a-kind prototype Transformer and they’ll send us a video – it’s always on this black, rotating platter – and they’ll slowly rotate the figure so we can get a sense of how big it is. With Omega Supreme…he was so big that his feet were hanging off the platter. As it rotates around, they stop the video and show how he converts.

It isn’t until this point that you really get a sense of the mass— you knew how tall he was going to be from the blueprints we had tacked around the office, and an impression of how big all the different elements are. It’s not until you see the designer converting it from robot to space station that you really get the “Wow, that rocket is huge, and that tank is a lot bigger than I thought it would be” feeling and it gives us a chance to see if there’s anything else we want to put into it. From there, they take that model and they create what’s called a final production model, a PT. They’ll take this model, refine it and make sure there’s no interference with the parts and pieces, and will also make sure it meets all the safety requirements

From that point, Takara Tomy puts it into production with the factory and we’ll start to see prototypes coming in. Simultaneously, we work here in our Rhode Island office to create what’s called a deco sheet where we spec out the molded colors, determine how many paint operations there are, and then try to bring that to life.

I work with a model artist here to create a painted prototype. This is the stage when the stars start to align. We’ll send that same deco spec to the factory; the factory will start to generate painted samples and then we’ll start to test out the joints and any QA concerns. We work closely with engineering at this point, to make sure all of the pieces are working properly.

After all this, we then get to reveal the figure to the fan at big events like the Entertainment Brand Preview event this past weekend in New York, and we have a chance to meet with fans and hear what they have to say. And then the whole process begins all over again with a new Titan character!

Hasbro Pulse:
That sounds like a lot of work.

John:
It IS a lot of work! Honestly, it takes months and months to do it, but it’s an incredible job and it’s great to be able to take something you’re passionate about and make toys for fans and work with awesome writers, creatives, engineering teams and stuff. We’re all fans and and we dig it. It’s a great job to do, it’s a ton of work, but it’s incredibly satisfying when a fan comes up to you, and you talk to them for an hour at a convention about how this toy really captures something for them – it is really something special. You come to realize that you’re doing more than just designing toys; you’re creating memories and you’re creating moments for people that they can spend with their kids, or they can spend bringing to life a battle on their shelf. It’s more than just a toy, it’s something so much more. I think that’s what I like so much about it.

This has been Hasbro Pulse: Behind the Design with John W. Hope you enjoyed this deep dive into the War for Cybertron: Siege Omega Supreme figure.


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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:39 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

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I wouldn't say that Omega Supreme "dwarfs" Devastator. He's just about a head taller, really. The height measurement of 24 inches that Hasbro is advertising is obviously referring to the wings on the back, which add a few inches in height. In terms of cartoon scale, again, looking at the height of the heads, this is actually pretty spot on.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Beachjezus » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:26 pm

Totally agree. Personally, I think the scaling is perfect!
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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II

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Re: John Warden Interview about Omega Supreme and the Design Phase Part II

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:14 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Well now, courtesy of Hasbro Pulse, we have the 2nd part to that interview, which includes some more details on how the figure got all the technical details as well as a size comparison to the Combiner Wars Devastator toy, who is pretty much dwarfed by his rival.

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I wouldn't say that Omega Supreme "dwarfs" Devastator. He's just about a head taller, really. The height measurement of 24 inches that Hasbro is advertising is obviously referring to the wings on the back, which add a few inches in height. In terms of cartoon scale, again, looking at the height of the heads, this is actually pretty spot on.


Looks like it will scale well with my Jinbao Devastator.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:00 am

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Omega is going to look even nicer next to the better colored UW Devastator. =P~

I work with a model artist here to create a painted prototype.

So glad he said this. There's certain people that would insist that once the figure gets to this point it's no longer a prototype, but they absolutely are, everything pre-production is. Warden saying it himself makes me feel a little vindicated.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:54 am

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I want omega but I just haven't got the space :(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Windsweeper » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:31 am

carytheone wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Soundwave is one of the better Generations figures made in a long time.
I had a lot of fun tinkering with his lamp post mode.

I could never settle on anything else to do with his arms, but I did change the legs up from the official configuration. Speaking of, lamp post mode is an intended bonus as there are pegs that hold his arms only in this mode.

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Is the lamp post mode official? I have to admit I'm liking it.

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How?...What?...How?
Three excellent questions.

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Black Hat wrote:So here's a funny question- what non-Siege figures do you guys think would "supplement" this line well? I can actually see a lot of the old BM Vehicon toys making very good cannon fodder (for either side with some stickers, depending on individual colours and designs).


I can confirm that this is true, and its the primary reason I went on a Vehicon ebay-shopping spree after Christmas. Mega-class Tankors look great with Siege Megatron. Deluxe Jetstorms look cool with Shockwave if you can put them all on flight stands.

Also a cool looking display combo:
1 Siege Megatron
2 Cybertron Sideways
3 BM Tankors
6 Cybertron Scrapmetal Drones
1 PotP Predaking


I do love the Cybertron Scrap Metals. I think they work nicely as Cybertronian wildlife.

I also like to use other figures with Cybertronian modes to add to the Siege cast...

Cybertron red Starscream repurposed as Thrust.
CHUG Voyager Dirge.
Botcon Dreadwind.
CHUG Treadbolt.
Botcon Treadshot.
CHUG Warpath.
Cybertron Vector Prime.
Energon Omega Supreme.
CHUG Trailbreaker.
CHUG Cyclonus.
TR Sixshot.
TR Overlord.
TR Black Shadow.
TR Quake.
TR Soundwave.
Takara Legends Hardhead.
Takara Legends Blurr.
Bumblebee Frenzy.
Bumblebee Howlback.
G1 Scourge.
POTP Outback.
WFC Jazz.
Fansproject Wildrider.
Prime Vehicons.

Anyway, you get the idea.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Giant Purple Griffin » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:28 am

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Lamp post mode is revealed on the box with a black light. There was a news article here about it a while back. It is definitely official.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #225 - The Overexposure of Bumblebee
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