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[o.supreme]

I wonder if Chromia would sell better if the mold had retained the Combiner peg.

I can almost guarantee it. The problem is she would have to be the selects line instead of a regular release if she were sole combiner part in the line.

I think one of the main problems with Siege Chromia is that they re-used a crappy design, engineering-wise. For me, that mold only did 2 things okay, 1) giving a lesser known fembot a toy and 2) being a decent combiner limb. They re-used that design and took away half of its good points.

I'll second this.

3rd.

Although to be fair, I really haven't seen any wave two shelf warming yet, they all sell out pretty quickly in the stores I've seen them in. Sixgun was the only one I wanted form the deluxes. Still no Pteraxadon yet.

[william-james88]

Found Aimless and Pteraxadon yesterday at Target! I think that means I'm all caught up on Siege except for Six-Gun. I can't seem to find him anywhere and he hasn't been listed on Amazon at all yet!

You found ravage and lazerbeak?

[Primeisprime]

Hey guys, I’m new in town when in comes to this siebertron account, just wondering if I could have some help with my account and personalizing it, accepting help from either faction

[Cobotron]

Hey guys, I’m new in town when in comes to this siebertron account, just wondering if I could have some help with my account and personalizing it, accepting help from either faction

Hi Primeisprime! Welcome to the forums!
We are happy to help you get acclimated here. As we like to keep our threads on topic, I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind taking this question over here. The Official New Members Welcome Topic

Please make a new post and include the specifics of what you need help with. We'll help you get transformed so you can roll out!!

[Nathaniel Prime]

Hey guys, I’m new in town when in comes to this siebertron account, just wondering if I could have some help with my account and personalizing it, accepting help from either faction

You may want to post this in a different thread, buddy

Off the top of my head though, you can go to your account and personalize from there. You need to go to the help guidelines for specifics though

[matthewrex]

Found Aimless and Pteraxadon yesterday at Target! I think that means I'm all caught up on Siege except for Six-Gun. I can't seem to find him anywhere and he hasn't been listed on Amazon at all yet!

You found ravage and lazerbeak?

Indeed! Although I snagged those online.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

we know I found ravage and laserbeak and had fun with Soundwave's chest door throwing them

[Sarahthecutevixen]

Also galaxy optimus prime's code is convoy...like the japanese name. Heh galaxy convoy

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I wonder if Chromia would sell better if the mold had retained the Combiner peg.

I can almost guarantee it. The problem is she would have to be the selects line instead of a regular release if she were sole combiner part in the line.

I think one of the main problems with Siege Chromia is that they re-used a crappy design, engineering-wise. For me, that mold only did 2 things okay, 1) giving a lesser known fembot a toy and 2) being a decent combiner limb. They re-used that design and took away half of its good points.

I'll second this.

3rd.

Although to be fair, I really haven't seen any wave two shelf warming yet, they all sell out pretty quickly in the stores I've seen them in. Sixgun was the only one I wanted form the deluxes. Still no Pteraxadon yet.

The new waves are just starting to hit, so i think we need to wait a few months before deciding if she's not selling as good.

I would hope that with her starring role in the comics with Prowl she would sell better through the comic fans.

I don't think the combiner gimmick would have helped her sell too much better. That was a lackluster mold and we are already essentially getting it 4 times anyways, 2 at retail, so a 3rd use of a lamer mold wouldn't help her either.

I didn't get her cause I love my T30 one, so I don't see a need to get an inferior mold of her, in my opinion

[Wolfman Jake]

Success at last! I was able to check out two more Walmarts today while in Maryland, and both had Siege Wave 2 Deluxes! The first I checked had everyone but Ironhide. I picked up Chromia and Sixshot, since I got Prowl a few weeks ago in one of my stores back home in Minnesota. The second Walmart had three Ironhides to choose from, so I got the one with the "best" paint job. I've got Wave 2 Micro Masters and Battle Masters in stock and paid in my stack at TFSource currently, so I've got Wave 2 set (except for Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime).

I didn't get her cause I love my T30 one, so I don't see a need to get an inferior mold of her, in my opinion

I love T30/Legends Chromia too, but I still got Siege Chromia, hoping to find a nice fan mode for her so she can act as a Targetmaster for the rest of her team when they're combined to form Orthia. It shouldn't be too hard to do something, especially with some extra accessories. These figures were meant to create unique weapon loadouts thanks to the C.O.M.B.A.T. system, so if Chromia herself doesn't make a convincing enough boomstick, I can change that be giving her a few extra weapons from some other figures.

[bacem]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

[bruticus24484]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

P_20190403_142117_SRES_1.jpg

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

P_20190403_113829_SRES_1.jpg

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

[Nemesis Destron]

I scored Ironhide and Prowl last night!

I haven't broken them out just yet but for those that have been enjoying Prowl...can his wheels pop off easy like TR Chromedome or are they on a pin that can't be seen?

Like many I wished HasTak would have gone with a simple black for the wheels and not clear. If they do just pop off I plan to color/paint them right, soooooo thanks in advance fans!

[Sarahthecutevixen]

So here are some initial thoughts and photos of this figure i have. so this review is unorthodox and sadly one of my better ones do it being more focused, and with photos and not one or the other, took the photos the day i found him, and i wont get the figure do to personal reasons for at least a month, so this is all you get for now,


ok So here is a MISB review at the moment to kick things off,

first image i took basic poor flash washes out details like the battle damageseems he has battle damage on the robot mode arms and black paint on the side of the ladder/super mode gun to break up all the silver

side of the box oh look the image on every side of a siege box with a wheeljack we may not get, do to not winning the fan vote, it'd be like seeing in POTP Star Saber show up in every promo image, like "We wanted him to win guys, you could of had this"better view of the head and silver gun plus the black gun is visible and hey the battle damage is almost invisible in this image
close up on the chest and abdomen for clearer details along with legs and the other super mode gun visible at the same time with the left one
Says convoy in cybertronian and then Galaxy Upgrade Optimus prime in english under it, if i am remembering correctly, also as great as the box art is, It's weird his forearm is blue, I mean the one not covered by the smaller guns/truck bumper
Left black gun and larger gun, plus battle damage on that arm disappears in certain lighting


View of the other black gun and larger silver gun his symbol is weird

back of the box with Co release Shockwave and if I am reading it right, production number 90081, and no idea what the heck is in the smaller truck's cgi render, it looks like the super mode chest almost

So far from what I've seen this is gonna be an amazing remold of Ultra Magnus, it may not live up to the original Galaxy convoy in size or gimmicks but if he has the same articulation as Magnus which
I am sure he does, he should have a waist swivel, wrist swivels, ankle tilts, and 5mm peg hands. I do have a theory that the crotch shown on the back of the box, is for the larger robot mode do to it matching the same details on Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Optimus prime more and the one in the box is mistransformed and is for the regular smaller robot mode instead, so the larger yellow details are for the smaller guy and the smaller ones are for the larger guy pretty much and the instructions and or TonTon along with Long's toys has it wrong

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

He isn't, I can promise you nothing is really similar in transformation.

[TF-fan kev777]

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

He isn't, I can promise you nothing is really similar in transformation.

I can second this, the general look of the front of the truck is all that Kup and Ironhide share.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

You know slightly off topic, I am honestly glad the mods here do not delete my posts do to them not agreeing what i am posting ala the galaxy optimus photos not being Out of box photography,"moved to another forum. Reason: Not an actual review" yet if i click on the alert it says i dont have permission to view it, and the post was deleted from my page, If i am giving my thoughts it's a review, but enough about tfw2005

These siege toys look awesome

[william-james88]

You know slightly off topic, I am honestly glad the mods here do not delete my posts do to them not agreeing what i am posting ala the galaxy optimus photos not being Out of box photography,"moved to another forum. Reason: Not an actual review" yet if i click on the alert it says i dont have permission to view it, and the post was deleted from my page, If i am giving my thoughts it's a review, but enough about tfw2005

These siege toys look awesome

You talked about a siege toy in the siege thread. Sounds good to me. Glad to have you around.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

You know slightly off topic, I am honestly glad the mods here do not delete my posts do to them not agreeing what i am posting ala the galaxy optimus photos not being Out of box photography,"moved to another forum. Reason: Not an actual review" yet if i click on the alert it says i dont have permission to view it, and the post was deleted from my page, If i am giving my thoughts it's a review, but enough about tfw2005

These siege toys look awesome

You talked about a siege toy in the siege thread. Sounds good to me. Glad to have you around.

and I posted in hand photos about a figure (boxed for now) instead of a blurry youtube video

[bacem]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

P_20190403_142117_SRES_1.jpg

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

P_20190403_113829_SRES_1.jpg

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

definitely not a retool of kup. Even the transformation is 100% different, there are no shared parts or engineering at all between the two.

[Sarahthecutevixen]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

P_20190403_142117_SRES_1.jpg

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

P_20190403_113829_SRES_1.jpg

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

definitely not a retool of kup. Even the transformation is 100% different, there are no shared parts or engineering at all between the two.

oh for spark's sake, this is the POTP Nemesis prime sharing the same head sculpt as CW Toxitron thing all over again.

[bruticus24484]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

P_20190403_142117_SRES_1.jpg

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

P_20190403_113829_SRES_1.jpg

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

definitely not a retool of kup. Even the transformation is 100% different, there are no shared parts or engineering at all between the two.

The front end is exactly the same. TR PM Optimus used completely different parts from CW Magnus but was clearly built from the same mould, much like Galaxy mode Optimus is to current magnus.

And I really don't get the hangup on terminology people here have. Can I not buy it if I think it's a retool? Am I supposed to pay a different price? Does it mean I cannot provide feedback if I do not conform to some invisible doctrine on language? Am I supposed to pretend PotP didn't reuse parts either? Maybe people should get over it and move on.

[Wolfman Jake]

No one is saying what you can and cannot say, per se. They're just clarifying that Siege Ironhide is not retooled in any way from Titans Return Kup. The only thing that looks similar about the front end is that they both have a sloping windshield at approximately the same angle. The transformations are completely different, and there are no common parts between the two figures. You can call that a retool if you want to, but it's not the definition almost everyone else actually uses and understands. Why not call Prowl a retool of Sideswipe? They both convert into low profile central-domed, four-wheeled vehicles.

[EVS090374]

I managed to get ironhide quicker than i remember. This guy is really a great toy!

P_20190403_142117_SRES_1.jpg

putting the weapon in the middle really helps to make his arm blends in more with the rest of the vehicle.

P_20190403_113829_SRES_1.jpg

and i love how he can properly dual handled his weapon.

Ah so he is a sort of retool of kup. Seeing it up close that's definitely kup's front end. Looks good though. Definitely going to get him and prowl. I was happy with classics 2.0 prowl but he got sticky paint and I tried to fix but made it worse so a new prowl would be nice.

definitely not a retool of kup. Even the transformation is 100% different, there are no shared parts or engineering at all between the two.

The front end is exactly the same. TR PM Optimus used completely different parts from CW Magnus but was clearly built from the same mould, much like Galaxy mode Optimus is to current magnus.

And I really don't get the hangup on terminology people here have. Can I not buy it if I think it's a retool? Am I supposed to pay a different price? Does it mean I cannot provide feedback if I do not conform to some invisible doctrine on language? Am I supposed to pretend PotP didn't reuse parts either? Maybe people should get over it and move on.

[Rodimus Prime]

Why not call Prowl a retool of Sideswipe? They both convert into low profile central-domed, four-wheeled vehicles.

I thought he was. The transformation differs at some steps and some parts are swapped out, but isn't that the definition of a retool?