The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Based on the size comparison with Ironhide, Refraktor(s) should be shorter than Prowl, and hopefully no taller than the Classics Seekers. I was worried they would be too tall, but it looks like they should scale pretty well, even if I don't get the Siege seekers.

They actually look like that might be dlx Classics Bumblebee height. Which is another reason why I won't buy more than one for $20.

Classics Bumblebee was a decently sized deluxe, too big to scale decently with the rest of the cast.

[SGMLordMirage]

Nothing really new other than posting some pictures of Starscream and Soundwave after applying stickers and part from Toyhax. I do like how the part enhances the Tetrajet look for Starscream.
Depending on your preference, these sets are not bad.

SGM

[chuckdawg1999]

Anybody else have their order for siege Red Alert cancelled on Amazon?

[Stargrave]

What the hell? Is it telling you anything or...?
Hope it’s something simple and it gets fixed pal.

[SpikeyTigertron]

Anybody else have their order for siege Red Alert cancelled on Amazon?

Yeah mine did.... moved all my pre-orders to Pulse lol

[ZeroWolf]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

[SpikeyTigertron]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

I think it was a “low stock” issue (alternatively Hasbro May have changed shipping dates?)

[chuckdawg1999]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

I think it was a “low stock” issue (alternatively Hasbro May have changed shipping dates?)

I also had two Mattel WWE figures canceled. This happened once before with a Go-Saurer model kit, they actually got the kit in-stock like a week after the original release date. My paranoia wants me to say it's a set up by Amazon to get people to order from their third party sellers more.

[ZeroWolf]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

I think it was a “low stock” issue (alternatively Hasbro May have changed shipping dates?)

I also had two Mattel WWE figures canceled. This happened once before with a Go-Saurer model kit, they actually got the kit in-stock like a week after the original release date. My paranoia wants me to say it's a set up by Amazon to get people to order from their third party sellers more.

How would that be beneficial for them?

[Stargrave]

So as of right now this appears to be random and just...dumb? What the hell, what a bummer. I’m sorry gang that’s frustrating. Hey if anyone else has their new orders canceled especially Siege figures let us know on this board.

[SpikeyTigertron]

On a side note, wonder if Hasbro got production samples saw how ugly he was and went, "WE MUST FIX THIS!"

[Wolfman Jake]

On a side note, wonder if Hasbro got production samples saw how ugly he was and went, "WE MUST FIX THIS!"

Well there was this shot which freaked everyone out:

Did you intend this for the Masterpiece thread?

[chuckdawg1999]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

I think it was a “low stock” issue (alternatively Hasbro May have changed shipping dates?)

I also had two Mattel WWE figures canceled. This happened once before with a Go-Saurer model kit, they actually got the kit in-stock like a week after the original release date. My paranoia wants me to say it's a set up by Amazon to get people to order from their third party sellers more.

How would that be beneficial for them?

They get a big cut from 3rd party sales?

[Emerje]

Strange, wonder why they were cancelled

I think it was a “low stock” issue (alternatively Hasbro May have changed shipping dates?)

I also had two Mattel WWE figures canceled. This happened once before with a Go-Saurer model kit, they actually got the kit in-stock like a week after the original release date. My paranoia wants me to say it's a set up by Amazon to get people to order from their third party sellers more.

How would that be beneficial for them?

They get a big cut from 3rd party sales?

Wouldn't they get a bigger cut of their own sales? That also assumes everyone that buys from Amazon would automatically buy from one of their sellers which isn't guaranteed.

This might have more to do with confusing US pre-order regulations that require cancellations on certain things if they aren't filled within 3 months. I can't find the specifics on the regs, but I remember Toys R Us being notorious for canceling pre-orders without warning after 3 months, several of us experienced that with Titans Return Arcee. A more mainstream example is Samsung's folding phone facing pre-order cancellation if it can't get them out by May 31st (they wont). I'm guessing the pre-orders that were canceled are the ones from February when Hasbro started their whole "see now, buy now" or whatever it's called thing. Right now would be 3 months after those pre-orders were made during Toy Fair in February.

Emerje

[william-james88]

Did you intend this for the Masterpiece thread?

Yup, got confused with various discussions.

[Stargrave]

Yikes. That dudes nails...

Nails...his face mask... I just got that

[o.supreme]

Guys, you can still post anything related on the boards. No one will and should stop you. With Optibotimus though, we wouldnt front page it, since he asked us not to. But that's only something for news staff to worry about, anyone can post his reviews on the forum.

The reason we wouldn't news this regardless is because we already posted a video review on jetfire a while ago.

That is actually good to know, I was not aware. I'm pretty indifferent to most reviewers, but Optibotimus did have one review recently that was a first, and I newsed it, but now I know why it wasn't followed up on.

[Stargrave]

Sometimes it feels like going over to a friends house to play toys, only it’s the friend who only lets you watch them play with their toys. And sometimes, when the toy is cool enough, I’m just fine with that arrangement.

Some reviewers I just have to hit that mute button I’ll be honest. It’s like I can only take so much pronounced annunciation through deviated septums.

[Nemesis Primal]

Refraktor looks good, just a nice solid Deceptigoon.

That talk about a possible Perceptor made me have a thought though, so I put together a list of all the molds and their alternate heads that we know of, because we haven't had some good harmless speculation in a while and nothing else is happening:

Sideswipe mold: Red Alert
Skytread mold: Slamdance
Hound mold: possibly Cybertron Defense Hot Shot? (from box art)
Prowl mold: Smokescreen/Barricade
Chromia mold: ??? (hopefully there isn't one?)
Ironhide mold: Ratchet (confirmed by IDW comics, apparently, plus it was an obvious jump)
Refraktor mold: ???
Impactor mold: ???
Mirage mold: ???
Voyager OP mold: ???
Megatron mold: IDW Miner Megs (used on G2 Camo Megs from Selects)
Starscream mold: Thundercracker/smirk
Soundwave mold: ???
Springer mold: ???
Shockwave mold: ???
Ultra Magnus mold: Optimus Prime
Greenlight mold: ??? (probably Lancer, given the code website confirming another limb coming)

Unknown Quantities:
Jetfire: new size class, dunno if the mold has an alternate head sculpt or if it's just 1 a year like the Titans
Weaponizers: Dunno if they have alternate heads, or if we're even getting more (hoping we will though)
Apeface & Astrotrain: Rumored through product listings, possibly meant for next segment of WFC trilogy
35th Anniversary Soundblaster: Allegedly has a retooled tape door, but Soundblaster has the same head as Soundwave, right?

Thoughts on the ???s and unknowns?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

You're forgetting the Battle Masters and Micromasters, they have pretools among them too:

Firedrive: ???
Blowpipe/Caliburst: Aimless
Lionizer/Dazlestrike: ???
Pteraxadon: ???
Smashdown: ???

Flak: ???
Topshot: Red Heat
Swindler: Blackjack
Roadhandler: Hyperdrive
Stakeout: ???
Visper: ???
Storm Cloud: ???
Ravage: ???
Laserbeak: ???
Highjump: ???
Powertrain: ???

To be fair, I don't really see any potential retools in that bunch

[Stargrave]

Honestly lately I’ve been looking at Skytread and seeing an easy repaint into a baby Blitzwing you see it right? I can’t unsee it now. With his one handedness I wonder if Impactor’s mold would be a candidate for like a Cybertronian Trailbreaker.

[TF-fan kev777]

Chromia mold: ??? (hopefully there isn't one?)

Priceless

[Microbot]

Refraktor looks good, just a nice solid Deceptigoon.

That talk about a possible Perceptor made me have a thought though, so I put together a list of all the molds and their alternate heads that we know of, because we haven't had some good harmless speculation in a while and nothing else is happening:

Sideswipe mold: Red Alert
Skytread mold: Slamdance
Hound mold: possibly Cybertron Defense Hot Shot? (from box art)
Prowl mold: Smokescreen/Barricade
Chromia mold: ??? (hopefully there isn't one?)
Ironhide mold: Ratchet (confirmed by IDW comics, apparently, plus it was an obvious jump)
Refraktor mold: ???
Impactor mold: ???
Mirage mold: ???
Voyager OP mold: ???
Megatron mold: IDW Miner Megs (used on G2 Camo Megs from Selects)
Starscream mold: Thundercracker/smirk
Soundwave mold: ???
Springer mold: ???
Shockwave mold: ???
Ultra Magnus mold: Optimus Prime
Greenlight mold: ??? (probably Lancer, given the code website confirming another limb coming)

Unknown Quantities:
Jetfire: new size class, dunno if the mold has an alternate head sculpt or if it's just 1 a year like the Titans
Weaponizers: Dunno if they have alternate heads, or if we're even getting more (hoping we will though)
Apeface & Astrotrain: Rumored through product listings, possibly meant for next segment of WFC trilogy
35th Anniversary Soundblaster: Allegedly has a retooled tape door, but Soundblaster has the same head as Soundwave, right?

Thoughts on the ???s and unknowns?

No more female bot with horrible greenlight/Chromia mold PLEASE! I want a good and better Arcee without that horrible backpack but with some good battle damage on her! Also, I hope the Galaxy prime will be recolor as a Nemesis Prime or Solo Prime. And please give em Dinobots and Wheeljack!

Great to read about Apeface and Astrotrain, I really like that idea! Do you think the command class can be fit for more figures? I don't know who can fit there....just see right for Jetfire t moment...

[Skritz]

I'm curious if Hasbro did pretools/shared molds for this line knowing it was going to be about POTP-sized. Especially since in recent years we've seen unused heads (T30 Orion Pax into Kup) which only ever get used in Japan (which is less likely now due to shared lines) or by FunPub (Which is even less likely because its gone!). My theory is that we might see these retools for other parts of the trilogy, giving people time to 'breathe' and making the line seem less repetitive as CW was.

I theorize that, with a line so focus on G1 toon accuracy, that making a character as 'another guy with new colors and new heads' seems way less likely if it didn't exist in G1 already. So Ironhide into Ratchet and Prowl into Smokescreen were pretty obvious reveals. I could see Mirage being redone into G2 Leadfoot (all he need is a new head since I doubt his derpy rotor will remain!) and Hound into Ironfist.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I'm curious if Hasbro did pretools/shared molds for this line knowing it was going to be about POTP-sized. Especially since in recent years we've seen unused heads (T30 Orion Pax into Kup) which only ever get used in Japan (which is less likely now due to shared lines) or by FunPub (Which is even less likely because its gone!). My theory is that we might see these retools for other parts of the trilogy, giving people time to 'breathe' and making the line seem less repetitive as CW was.

I theorize that, with a line so focus on G1 toon accuracy, that making a character as 'another guy with new colors and new heads' seems way less likely if it didn't exist in G1 already. So Ironhide into Ratchet and Prowl into Smokescreen were pretty obvious reveals. I could see Mirage being redone into G2 Leadfoot (all he need is a new head since I doubt his derpy rotor will remain!) and Hound into Ironfist.

What is curious is that they're sticking with simple part swaps this time around: Ultra Magnus into Cybertron Prime is the only example of Prime Wars-style rehashing in the main, non-exclusive line.