Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby notirishman » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:45 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Impactor is... Looking better and also slightly worse? I'm starting to like the boxiness and general design, but the colors are iffy. The yellow is too yellow and the purple is too dark for my tastes. And wasn't he originally supposed to be a Decepticon in the fan vote?

Takara Tomy stock photos have some kind of filter, the final product probably looks different.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:26 am

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:Impactor is looking better. It's a shame the paint doesn't quite match the plastic as far as the yellow is concerned but I'm share it won't be so bad in less intense lighting. I'm still on the fence about Galaxy Prime. He looks really good but I'm on a tight budget and something has to give if I'm going to get Omega and Jetfire.


Dude I’d hard pass on him then I think Omega’s that A-1 winner go for the big boys and just enjoy pics or reviews of Galaxy boy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:28 am

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Skritz wrote:If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:
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Now I’ve seen that MegaGalvatron art before (wicked) but what’s that second piece that’s really intruiging. :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:30 am

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sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?



Oooo!! That’d be so much awesome! Gah good ideas everyone ahh I love fan speculation...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:47 pm

00Stargrave00 wrote:
Skritz wrote:If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:
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Now I’ve seen that MegaGalvatron art before (wicked) but what’s that second piece that’s really intruiging. :-?


Early concepts of a scrapped upgraded Galvatron. I believe (but don't quote me on this) that it was meant to be his Actionmaster design. Definitely a gimmick-era, post season 3 Galvatron but I'm not 100% sure on his gimmick.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:50 pm

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You know what that was saying Action Master to me too that’s awesome. I also am reminded of the Robotech Invid robots from shoot season 3 I think. Someone hungrily pounce on this one I’m blanking. I loved Action Masters as a kid despite their faults man I would have loved that thing.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:51 pm

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YoungPrime wrote:Some size comparison's would've been nice but other than that the review was quite informative.

I'm only buying 1 of these since I had already given up on waiting for a new Reflector set by Hasbro and bought the Papa Toys version last fall. So they'll be my "Reflector" trio.
I do like to troop build the Decepticons in my collection so I will buy just 1 Refractor who will just go by that name and will be recon for Shockwave. But if they do make a G1 version that comes as Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder in their G1 toy colors I might cave in and grab that set anyway.


Thanks for watching. I used to do size comparisons but YouTube pulled the videos due to some indecent exposure rules or something.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:59 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:I genuinely understand where some of the dislike for Galaxy Upgrade comes from but I have the classic version and this new version and the new version wins, hands down. Lights and sounds and firing missiles? Wheels on the trailer that are actual wheels? I get why the old one has love for it but the new Galaxy version is better in just about every way. More poseable, better scaled to the rest of its own body parts for crying out loud, and it doesn't have as much of a penchant for collapsing in on itself like a Unicron black hole. I don't think I'd be inclined to even post anything if he wasn't just so fun to pick up and play with in all of his modes it all fits together super well, on mine at least.

I just had to throw some Galaxy Upgrade love out there :-D

Eh. Galaxy Upgrade is cool and all, and I do want him eventually, but he's decidedly an homage and not a replacement. He's undersize as all get out compared to the show and to actual Cybertron toys (Cybertron Megatron could sit on him), he's not accurate to the show - ESPECIALLY not the cab robot, and he can't do certain key things the original did:
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The hip ratchet issue is admittedly frustrating at times, but I've never found it insurmountable. And from what I hear the red-and-black redeco fixed it.

ZeroWolf wrote:Jetfire looks so good, and I hear rumours that Symths in the UK may be stocking him :? Can't wait to see what other characters can be put in this class, Tidal Wave anyone?

*A second Ultra Magnus in the next year of the trilogy perhaps, maybe an Optimus Prime too. Why? Because it might take Commander class to do them with both Voyager cab robots and matching trailers that have all the play features of the G1 toys.
* Possibly Sky Lynx, although since Predaking wound up Titan-class that would leave Sky Lynx too small in comparison...

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We've had good jetfire toys for over 30 years.

I would even argue that we have not had a bad Jetfire toy

Well, there was the Titanium Series one. Or is that one of the few from that line that isn't a mess?
Still, we definitely haven't had a Completely Nailed It In Both Modes Cartoon Skyfire toy before.

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Epsilon Delta wrote:I feel all the Siege prices should be at 75% of what they are selling at. Or line up with the studio series prices.


But, the SIEGE and Studio Series prices DO line up. Deluxe Class = $19.99, Voyager Class = $29.99, and Leader Class = $49.99 for BOTH toy lines.

Thank you.

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Mmm, I'd say we were still due a new version of Wreck-Gar. PotP Wreck-Gar doesn't really cut it in the accuracy department. We could also stand a Rodimus Prime with a Voyager-height cab robot, and a Supreme/Commander Ultra Magnus.

Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer. >:oP

I agree with this except I actually like his Titan Master implementation (and, for the most part, the crown - if only the spring carriage was less fat!). :P
There's also a very good reason the triple-changer gimmick doesn't make him less accurate: The G1 Galvatron design was a triple-changer from the start, the only difference being that on the original toy his third mode is a raygun (which only showed up in I think 1 or 2 Marvel comics and even then only as concealment). I think repurposing his back spar (which, despite all the haters' wailing and gnashing of teeth, is plainly visible on the animation model) from being a handle to being a fuselage was very clever.

I'm looking forward to Skyfire, although I may defer getting him considering my priorities. I'm looking forward to Springer, he looks much better to me than T30 Springer (more G1, less messy copter mode). Although I might lend him T30 Springer's rotor sword so that he'll have a transforming one.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:29 pm

So will be a possible REFRACTOR Gift Set? It's just a rumor or some true news? Also When we get more news about the next wave? >:oP >:oP >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:27 pm

Microbot wrote:So will be a possible REFRACTOR Gift Set? It's just a rumor or some true news? Also When we get more news about the next wave? >:oP >:oP >:oP

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:30 pm

While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:35 pm

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Postby Nemesis Primal » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:00 pm

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Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:07 pm

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Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

I'm pretty sure Apeface and Astrotrain would be next line if they do come out to be true. Especially since the listings showed a December release date
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:02 pm

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Skritz wrote:Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.


Ratchet is a retailer exclusive release at Walgreens, not a Generations Selects figure. We've known this for over half a year now. He'll be released in the fall just like PotP Wreck-Gar, the Clones 2-Pack, and Brainstorm before him.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:19 am

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

It's possible but I'm hoping for a Voyager class Straxus/Darkmount (h3ll, Siege Megatron's sword could be an axe instead).

Otherwise I'll just stick with the Generations version.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:28 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

I'm pretty sure Apeface and Astrotrain would be next line if they do come out to be true. Especially since the listings showed a December release date

Yeah if they are deadon, the timing means they could be the line after Siege, which I would guess we'll be learning about as soon as SDCC hits (or earlier if it leaks)

It's true we don't know what Selects holds but that talk is out of the purview of this thread.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:09 am

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:14 am

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Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:14 am

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Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.
At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:19 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.
At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.


Oh, right, I assume you mean the mixed/reverse Marvel comic deco of 'white helmet red crest', correct?
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:26 am

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Skritz wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Skritz wrote:I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.
At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.


Oh, right, I assume you mean the mixed/reverse Marvel comic deco of 'white helmet red crest', correct?
Yeah, the one both the Animated and Prime Ratchets got saddled with, along with most G1 Ratchet toys beginning with the Universe one (on which it looked hideous).

Gimme red helmet with gray/white crest (Marvel) or white helmet with black crest (cartoon) over white helmet with red crest any day.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:27 am

Personally I quite like red helmet/white crest.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:39 am

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Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:00 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

Things like this always make it interesting how experiencing the different shows at different times impacts what we think, because to me the Ratchet helmets from Prime and Animated are the right ones and what I want the figure to have, with the comic red helmet white crest being alright and the cartoon white and gray being a turn-off.

sol magnus wrote:Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I've said it before, I'll say it again in hopes it'll happen, I want to see a Demolishor retool from this mold.
Burn wrote:You're my new favourite person. 8-)
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