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[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I genuinely understand where some of the dislike for Galaxy Upgrade comes from but I have the classic version and this new version and the new version wins, hands down. Lights and sounds and firing missiles? Wheels on the trailer that are actual wheels? I get why the old one has love for it but the new Galaxy version is better in just about every way. More poseable, better scaled to the rest of its own body parts for crying out loud, and it doesn't have as much of a penchant for collapsing in on itself like a Unicron black hole. I don't think I'd be inclined to even post anything if he wasn't just so fun to pick up and play with in all of his modes it all fits together super well, on mine at least.

I just had to throw some Galaxy Upgrade love out there

Eh. Galaxy Upgrade is cool and all, and I do want him eventually, but he's decidedly an homage and not a replacement. He's undersize as all get out compared to the show and to actual Cybertron toys (Cybertron Megatron could sit on him), he's not accurate to the show - ESPECIALLY not the cab robot, and he can't do certain key things the original did:


*Insert Sonic Wing Mode pic here*
The hip ratchet issue is admittedly frustrating at times, but I've never found it insurmountable. And from what I hear the red-and-black redeco fixed it.

Jetfire looks so good, and I hear rumours that Symths in the UK may be stocking him Can't wait to see what other characters can be put in this class, Tidal Wave anyone?

*A second Ultra Magnus in the next year of the trilogy perhaps, maybe an Optimus Prime too. Why? Because it might take Commander class to do them with both Voyager cab robots and matching trailers that have all the play features of the G1 toys.
* Possibly Sky Lynx, although since Predaking wound up Titan-class that would leave Sky Lynx too small in comparison...

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We've had good jetfire toys for over 30 years.

I would even argue that we have not had a bad Jetfire toy

Well, there was the Titanium Series one. Or is that one of the few from that line that isn't a mess?
Still, we definitely haven't had a Completely Nailed It In Both Modes Cartoon Skyfire toy before.

I feel all the Siege prices should be at 75% of what they are selling at. Or line up with the studio series prices.

But, the SIEGE and Studio Series prices DO line up. Deluxe Class = $19.99, Voyager Class = $29.99, and Leader Class = $49.99 for BOTH toy lines.

Thank you.

Springer was the only bot from the animated movie that didn't show up in Prime Wars. I don't think we're due for new versions of the others very soon. Of course, WfC will be running for two more years, so who knows where it will take us before it's done.

Mmm, I'd say we were still due a new version of Wreck-Gar. PotP Wreck-Gar doesn't really cut it in the accuracy department. We could also stand a Rodimus Prime with a Voyager-height cab robot, and a Supreme/Commander Ultra Magnus.

Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer.

I agree with this except I actually like his Titan Master implementation (and, for the most part, the crown - if only the spring carriage was less fat!).
There's also a very good reason the triple-changer gimmick doesn't make him less accurate: The G1 Galvatron design was a triple-changer from the start, the only difference being that on the original toy his third mode is a raygun (which only showed up in I think 1 or 2 Marvel comics and even then only as concealment). I think repurposing his back spar (which, despite all the haters' wailing and gnashing of teeth, is plainly visible on the animation model) from being a handle to being a fuselage was very clever.

I'm looking forward to Skyfire, although I may defer getting him considering my priorities. I'm looking forward to Springer, he looks much better to me than T30 Springer (more G1, less messy copter mode). Although I might lend him T30 Springer's rotor sword so that he'll have a transforming one.
Getting 3x Reflector is probably going to be my priority for SIEGE, since spending $60 on that is better than spending $120-$150.

Those wanting a sleeker Cyclonus than the CW version, what do you think of the Universe version?

[Microbot]

So will be a possible REFRACTOR Gift Set? It's just a rumor or some true news? Also When we get more news about the next wave?

[william-james88]

So will be a possible REFRACTOR Gift Set? It's just a rumor or some true news? Also When we get more news about the next wave?

Thete is 0 true news about a giftset and all retail waves have been revealed.

[Skritz]

While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

[Stargrave]

Skritz, you have returned hope from the land to which William once banished it

[Nemesis Primal]

While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

[Sentinel_Primal]

While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

I'm pretty sure Apeface and Astrotrain would be next line if they do come out to be true. Especially since the listings showed a December release date

[Wolfman Jake]

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

Ratchet is a retailer exclusive release at Walgreens, not a Generations Selects figure. We've known this for over half a year now. He'll be released in the fall just like PotP Wreck-Gar, the Clones 2-Pack, and Brainstorm before him.

[YoungPrime]

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

It's possible but I'm hoping for a Voyager class Straxus/Darkmount (h3ll, Siege Megatron's sword could be an axe instead).

Otherwise I'll just stick with the Generations version.

[ZeroWolf]

While we know everything from Siege, there's still the possibility of more stuff in Generation Selects. We know it had some Siege-related releases (G2 Arctic Megatron and now Red Wing) so I'd say its still pretty open in the air that anything could happen in Select. With Legends-EX now defunt, seems like Select is going to end up as some amalgamated hybrid of Legends and the Prime Wars-era exclusives (Arcee, Monsterbots, Nemesis Prime and Punch/Counterpunch to name them).

In fact it almost seem like Selects could end up as the line where odder redeco end up as to keep the mass retail lines 'cleaner' and simpler. So I'd say "Who knows?" Personally I don't think we'll see a Reflector set but I'm saying it remain as plausible as any Siege retool. This is specially true if Hasbro molded all these Sieges guys with an extra head tooling.

Also pretty sure Ratchet will end up a Selects figure. I could be wrong on this.

There's also still the chance of other exclusives and such. We're still missing numbers in terms of the numbering system for the Siege releases, even with the exclusives we already know about. I'm confident Ratchet will NOT be a Selects figure because of it, not even counting the fact that no Selects figures have been released at physical retail. Plus, aren't there some leaks regarding a Micromaster multi-pack, Apeface, and Astrotrain?

I'm pretty sure Apeface and Astrotrain would be next line if they do come out to be true. Especially since the listings showed a December release date

Yeah if they are deadon, the timing means they could be the line after Siege, which I would guess we'll be learning about as soon as SDCC hits (or earlier if it leaks)

It's true we don't know what Selects holds but that talk is out of the purview of this thread.

[Skritz]

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

[sol magnus]

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

They have an invention called red paint.

[Sabrblade]

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.

[Skritz]

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.

Oh, right, I assume you mean the mixed/reverse Marvel comic deco of 'white helmet red crest', correct?

[Sabrblade]

I just hope Ratchet will show up at online retailers. He's definitely a character I want on my shelf, being the quintessential 'medic' of Transformers. Granted if things went my way I'd prefer a Marvel Comics head but w/e, GEEWUN toon is probably what we're getting.

At least he wouldn't be stealing Prowl's head deco anymore.

Oh, right, I assume you mean the mixed/reverse Marvel comic deco of 'white helmet red crest', correct?

Yeah, the one both the Animated and Prime Ratchets got saddled with, along with most G1 Ratchet toys beginning with the Universe one (on which it looked hideous).

Gimme red helmet with gray/white crest (Marvel) or white helmet with black crest (cartoon) over white helmet with red crest any day.

[Skritz]

Personally I quite like red helmet/white crest.

[Sabrblade]

Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

[Nemesis Primal]

Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

Things like this always make it interesting how experiencing the different shows at different times impacts what we think, because to me the Ratchet helmets from Prime and Animated are the right ones and what I want the figure to have, with the comic red helmet white crest being alright and the cartoon white and gray being a turn-off.

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I've said it before, I'll say it again in hopes it'll happen, I want to see a Demolishor retool from this mold.

[Nathaniel Prime]

Like I said, I'll take either that or the cartoon one so long as it's not another Prowl-colored Ratchet.

Things like this always make it interesting how experiencing the different shows at different times impacts what we think, because to me the Ratchet helmets from Prime and Animated are the right ones and what I want the figure to have, with the comic red helmet white crest being alright and the cartoon white and gray being a turn-off.

This. I feel exactly the same way, and if Animated or Prime had Ratchet with different colored heads, I would have rooted honestly. For G1, anything goes really, and I would like any colored head option for the Siege figure.

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I can sorta see where you are coming from, but for me, (insert unpopular opinion here), I prefer the Generations figure. I thought that was Straxus for me, and I don't really need another one for a while. Jhiaxus on the other hand, yeah, we need a new one of him.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

On the subject of Astrotrain...

The way I see it, we already got a SIEGE Astrotrain..
It just came out 2 years early during Titans Return

Hopefully the Astrotrain from the next part of the trilogy will have a steam engine mode. It's also good to hear about Apeface.

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I can sorta see where you are coming from, but for me, (insert unpopular opinion here), I prefer the Generations figure. I thought that was Straxus for me, and I don't really need another one for a while. Jhiaxus on the other hand, yeah, we need a new one of him.

I too am fine with the Generations version of Straxus. It has his signature weapon, it has decent articulation and resembles him in robot mode, and it can be configured into his "flying gun turret" altmode from the comics - which I somehow doubt the SIEGE Impactor mold could pull off.

Agreed about Jhiaxus. What would you say to adapting the SIEGE Seeker mold as him?

[Skritz]

Considering the line is called War for Cybertron yet seems to begin at the end, the so-called final Siege...it really make me wonder if part 2 won't be In Media Res with pre-war characters like Sentinel Prime (admittedly I'd like a more Marvel comic version of him, even if the Trump Astrotrain of Titans Return/IDW is fine) and maybe Straxus or something.

[Nathaniel Prime]

On the subject of Astrotrain...

The way I see it, we already got a SIEGE Astrotrain..
It just came out 2 years early during Titans Return

Hopefully the Astrotrain from the next part of the trilogy will have a steam engine mode. It's also good to hear about Apeface.

I think I agree with you on TR Astrotrain being compatible with Siege. He is in scale, has a cartoon accurate robot mode, and has recently "Cybertronian" alt modes that still scream Astrotrain to me. If he had waist rotation and ankle tilts, he would be on par with Siege completely.

I'll still wait for that rumored Leader Astrotrain, because if it's cartoon accurate with the G1 alt modes, I'll use that as my Earth CHUG Astrotrain.

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

I can sorta see where you are coming from, but for me, (insert unpopular opinion here), I prefer the Generations figure. I thought that was Straxus for me, and I don't really need another one for a while. Jhiaxus on the other hand, yeah, we need a new one of him.

I too am fine with the Generations version of Straxus. It has his signature weapon, it has decent articulation and resembles him in robot mode, and it can be configured into his "flying gun turret" altmode from the comics - which I somehow doubt the SIEGE Impactor mold could pull off.

Agreed about Jhiaxus. What would you say to adapting the SIEGE Seeker mold as him?[/quote]

I don't know about the Siege Seeker mold. For one, I wouldn't mind seeing a new head retool of the Siege Seeker mold, but I would love to see something different for him, instead of repeating what happened in T30. A new mold would be nice, but that's probably wishful thinking.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Well, I suggested the SIEGE Seeker mold as a base for him because A. Jhiaxus' original design took cues from the Seekers and B. the transformation engineering seems like it could be used to depict his original vehicle and robot modes. So not just a new head, but a new altmode shell as well.

[Trocheman]

So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

[ZeroWolf]

So i see these Siege figures all the time but been sticking to the Studio Series figures. im not to familiar with Siege. what exactly is the history behind this collection? sorry just new to this

Story line wise it's telling the story of the final days before both sides abandoned Cybertron, though currently there's no specific fiction for the toyline (there is a Netflix show based on Siege next year though). IDW is currently using Siege designs but that's a pre war story.

For practical purposes though, it's to help user in a new scale for the bot mode and to recreate the robot modes so they look as they did in the G1 cartoon.