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by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:04 am

I expect Galaxy Upgrade Optimus and his giant wings and guns will be a favorite of the kiddies.

News Credits: 288 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:47 am

Greetings Seibertronians! Today we bring a new video review of the forthcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Deluxe Class Weaponizer Brunt!

The review comes from fellow Seibertron user, Chuckdawg1999 and this is what he has to say about this Con!

Chuckdawg1999 wrote:Brunt is the first Decepticon Weaponizer in the line and it's not great. While vehicle and robot modes are solid, it's individual components are lacking and just not as fun as Sixgun or Cog. If you have a warm spot in your heart for Trypticons old partner drone then this might be worth a purchase for you.

Check out the review that has been embedded below for your convenience!

Brunt is the third Weaponizer in the Siege line and the toy shares a design for centurion drones from IDWs Transformers: Stormbringer miniseries. Brunt is usually a component of Trypticon, in the same vein of Cog and Fortress Maximus and Six-Gun and Metroplex.

What do you think of this review? Are you getting him to bolster your Decepticon forces? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:15 am

I'm not all that surprised Brunt turned out a bit more limited than Six Gun and Cog. I mean, Six Gun's G1 toy was the original weaponizer, Cog's arm design lends itself to the gimmick... While for Brunt they had to make up a robot mode because he didn't even have one before, and he only had a single cannon as part of himself. And Iguess there wasn't room in the budget to include the two guns that mounted to the original Brunt's treads in Trypticon's ship/battle station mode.
Doesn't stop me from wanting him.

by **Radioactivepanda** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:20 am

Why has no one reviewed the most important bit about this guy?

How well does he connect to Trypticon?

News Credits: 1 · by **Lore Keeper** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:24 am

I just got Brunt yesterday. I think his weapon modes are fine, though there are only two official configurations this time. The only thing that actually bothers me about the toy is that the shoulder mounted cannon can only point up. It doesnt swing forward or anything. He's also quite a bit smaller than his buddy Full-Tilt, but that's a problem of the Siege line itself.

News Credits: 22 · by **Ironhidensh** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:55 am

Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.

My kids (five and six year old boys) love them for about a week, then they get tossed in a toy bin and forgotten about. Without a cartoon to go with it, these aren’t really a big deal to kids. Kids today are far more into roblocks, Minecraft, and legos, in my experience.

by **sol magnus** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:11 am

00Stargrave00 wrote:I used to think Jack Kirby art was not that impressive when I was a kid. When I got older (grognard) I gained a lot more appreciation and love for his work and what it meant, not just how it looked. Appreciation and criticism all comes from a perspective sometimes that perspective changes in time - retro and classic become stylish terms know what I mean? I think I appreciate it getting them into the fandom at all then we can get our greedy grognard gloves on em and help steer them where to go what to see all the different awesome perspectives of the Transformer world. Bring us your Bayformers your tired and weary, let us show you the way

wut.

News Credits: 114 · by **Stargrave** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:02 am

Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.

I was just responding to Skritz and getting overly sappy about it. I get too wordy sometimes :roll:

that’s me eye rolling at myself.

I think Siege is great on so many levels as a fan it would be such a bummer to hear younger fans think it’s ‘meh’ I mean I would have loved these as a kid but we had a cartoon and comics and the works. This has a cartoon in the works to be released super timely like CW/TR/PotP and a comic that nobody’s loving. :BANG_HEAD:

News Credits: 1 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:06 am

Radioactivepanda wrote:Why has no one reviewed the most important bit about this guy?

How well does he connect to Trypticon?

I would suggest that you head over to the fan modes thread on tfw2005. Someone showed off some configurations for his integration very recently there.

by **sol magnus** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:11 am

00Stargrave00 wrote:
Skritz wrote:Since I've been told many times that our opinions as grognard fans has no common group with what a kid think: what DO kids think of Siege so far? Does anyone here have kids that play with the Siege toys? Do they find them cool? Or is this truly just a line for crusty grognards. Just wondering.

I was just responding to Skritz and getting overly sappy about it. I get too wordy sometimes that’s me eye rolling at myself.

I think Siege is great on so many levels as a fan it would be such a bummer to hear younger fans think it’s ‘meh’ I mean I would have loved these as a kid but we had a cartoon and comics and the works. This has a cartoon in the works to be released super timely like CW/TR/PotP and a comic that nobody’s loving.

Sorry. I should have only quoted what I was "wutting" about, which was the whole "I didn't love Jack Kirby" bit.

I know! I’ll admit it I honestly thought the modern at the time art of the 80’s was better I didn’t have proper context or really realize to what extent he wasn’t just drawing but creating and how much he influenced what I was already loving. Now? Now my life would just be empty space without Kirby dots to fill it :lol:

News Credits: 288 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:17 am

I don't think it would be a bummer, just shows that everyone can have their own Optimus Prime (or a version of like Primal) Some kids joined the fandom knowing only Primal, others would swear that any of the Unicron Trilogy Primes would be theirs. All are welcome, they are all transformers after all.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:06 pm

^Cybertron was the show that got me into Transformers and remains my favorite, but I like a lot of the other stuff.

Also, this happened.

News Credits: 53 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:16 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:^Cybertron was the show that got me into Transformers and remains my favorite, but I like a lot of the other stuff.

Also, this happened.

Cog Bomber! :lol:

News Credits: 114 · by **Stargrave** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:52 pm

That is awesome! And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service it’s hard not to love something at least one or two things out of each of those series. Even though Armada wasn’t my favorite it gave us Optimus with laser activated pants. Now that... is amazing.

News Credits: 293 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:59 pm

00Stargrave00 wrote:And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service

It's really only Energon and some of Cybertron that had all those homages. Armada was predominately new stuff, while Energon was the 20th anniversary line and Cybertron just sprinkled in some of that same nostalgia.

News Credits: 114 · by **Stargrave** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Pretty much all of the names from Armada well placed or not were all pulled from previous series, even the Minicons. It was based around Unicron.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:And Cybertron or the trilogy all together was so full of nods and fan service
It's really only Energon and some of Cybertron that had all those homages. Armada was predominately new stuff, while Energon was the 20th anniversary line and Cybertron just sprinkled in some of that same nostalgia.

Ohhh, I wouldn't say that. Armada had a fair bit of homage in it, particularly in the design department. Armada Optimus, for example, is a composite homage to Powermaster Optimus Prime/Super Ginrai, Star Convoy, and Laser Optimus Prime. Hell, in his Super Mode he even resurrects the Laser Rod gimmick. Jetfire and Overload both take at least some inspiration from Sky Garry and Grandus respectively.

News Credits: 293 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:21 pm

00Stargrave00 wrote:Pretty much all of the names from Armada well placed or not were all pulled from previous series, even the Minicons.

Purely for Trademark purposes, hence why the guy who vaguely resembled an oddly black, yellow, and white redeco of Sideswipe was named "Wheeljack".

00Stargrave00 wrote:It was based around Unicron.

Not at first. The decision to bring him into the series came late in the game, during the second year of the line. The original intent for the line was just the Mini-Con scavenger hunt to cash in on the Pokemon craze at the time.

The name "Unicron Trilogy" didn't even come about officially until 2009, seven years after Armada began and three years after Cybertron ended. While in Japan, it's instead known as the "Micron Trilogy" (with "Micron" being the Japanese name for "Mini-Con").

News Credits: 288 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:31 pm

Huh, I always thought the Unicron Trilogy moniker came around before that. You learn something new every day :lol:

Coming back to Siege, I came across an odd sight the other day. I was out in Newcastle, and happened upon their big Forbidden Planet store (importer shop) they had Siege deluxes in, but there was one problem, they were all Six Gun, all twelve of them!

News Credits: 2439 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:37 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Huh, I always thought the Unicron Trilogy moniker came around before that. You learn something new every day

Coming back to Siege, I came across an odd sight the other day. I was out in Newcastle, and happened upon their big Forbidden Planet store (importer shop) they had Siege deluxes in, but there was one problem, they were all Six Gun, all twelve of them!

Intetesting, that would mean there were solid cases. And yet there is no listing of such a thing anywhere.

News Credits: 114 · by **Stargrave** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:12 pm

Ravager Ion Rifle

News Credits: 5 · by **Flashwave** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:34 pm

I have to disagree with the Summary for the Review. I'm not a huge fan of the Weaponizer Gimmick, and because of it Brunt siffers from Parts Forming, but I throughly enjoy his figure, and I love it just as much as I do Cog, maybe more. Sixgun has the cooler Vehicle mode, even though he doesnt match the legends Scamper, but Brunt is in no way any weaker than the other 2. And the Stormbringer reference adds coolness points

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:01 pm

Flashwave wrote:I have to disagree with the Summary for the Review. I'm not a huge fan of the Weaponizer Gimmick, and because of it Brunt siffers from Parts Forming, but I throughly enjoy his figure, and I love it just as much as I do Cog, maybe more. Sixgun has the cooler Vehicle mode, even though he doesnt match the legends Scamper, but Brunt is in no way any weaker than the other 2. And the Stormbringer reference adds coolness points

Regarding suffering from partsforming... Brunt was ALWAYS a partsformer. All three of the characters made into Weaponizers for SIEGE were partsformers from the beginning. Brunt didn't even have a robot mode originally - he was just a tank that broke up into extra parts for Trypticon's battlestation/space cruiser and city modes.

In fairness to the review, Chuckdawg was specifically saying that Brunt was weaker as a weaponizer, because of not having quite as many different possibilities as the other two on that front. For those who don't care about the gimmick, that's obviously a non-issue.

Regarding Sixgun, I must reiterate that he's basically the original Weaponizer. His original toy had the very same gimmick, with most of him being made of weapons that could be used to arm Metroplex, combiners, or anyone else with 5mm fist holes.

News Credits: 288 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:49 am

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Huh, I always thought the Unicron Trilogy moniker came around before that. You learn something new every day

Coming back to Siege, I came across an odd sight the other day. I was out in Newcastle, and happened upon their big Forbidden Planet store (importer shop) they had Siege deluxes in, but there was one problem, they were all Six Gun, all twelve of them!

Intetesting, that would mean there were solid cases. And yet there is no listing of such a thing anywhere.

I took it to mean that poor six gun was the toy no one wanted from that wave :lol:

They did have Starscream and Soundwave in mind, representing the voyagers and just the Wave one leaders, which was more then what I was expecting.

News Credits: 172 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:27 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Huh, I always thought the Unicron Trilogy moniker came around before that. You learn something new every day

Coming back to Siege, I came across an odd sight the other day. I was out in Newcastle, and happened upon their big Forbidden Planet store (importer shop) they had Siege deluxes in, but there was one problem, they were all Six Gun, all twelve of them!

Intetesting, that would mean there were solid cases. And yet there is no listing of such a thing anywhere.

I took it to mean that poor six gun was the toy no one wanted from that wave

They did have Starscream and Soundwave in mind, representing the voyagers and just the Wave one leaders, which was more then what I was expecting.

yeah all the weaponizers so far have been warming in my area, they've easily been the least popular of each wave