The Energon Pub

[Stargrave]

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

A Siege Bluestreak that is blue.

Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

One would assume hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?

[Ironhidensh]

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

A Siege Bluestreak that is blue.

Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

Quite a few of us love that diaclone deco.

[Hellscream9999]

No Leobreaker they said, no claw mode they said, they called me maaaad at the University....

Nice

[william-james88]

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

A Siege Bluestreak that is blue.

Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

One would assume hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?

It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

[Hellscream9999]

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

A Siege Bluestreak that is blue.

Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

One would assume hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?

It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

literally never heard of that phrase

[william-james88]

Hey if you all could pick like 2 out of the 3: Prowl, Bluesteak, or Smokescreen, which would you pick? They’re like the Autobot Seekers. So cool.

A Siege Bluestreak that is blue.

Why do we need one that's blue? The colour has nothing to do with his name.

One would assume hey what is the origin of that term is it a reference to lighting or...?

It comes from the term, "to talk a blue streak", which means yapping away. His name in french is "Jaseur" which means a guy who just talking and wont shut up.

literally never heard of that phrase

It is misleading in the fact that the art does have the diaclone blue version, but its about his speech. Here is the bilingual box which shows his name in french:

[ZeroWolf]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

[Hellscream9999]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

[Skritz]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.

[ZeroWolf]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.

I see, thanks for the info you two! Must have missed that one.

[Stargrave]

It’s the darker grey Megatronus one but with the front Bomb Burst cover off. Ah just having fun with him Haha it’s like I’m the Galaxy Upgrade booster club

I again say I love them both at the time Cybertron Prime was like the coolest a toy could be it was like it does what and what and also WHAT and WHAT else??

[ThunderThruster]

No Leobreaker they said, no claw mode they said, they called me maaaad at the University....

Primus, that looks good.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

That's actually the Bomb-burst retool of Skullgrin's decoy armor.

"but with Smokecreen's,"
With Smokescreen's what?

Out of these 2 I especially like Ratchet. Not sure if I'll go for Bluestreak or get the Universe version (which may well drop in price now). Still, Bluestreak's nice. And thank you for pointing out the actual origin of his name, Will. That said, back in the eighties they probably did plan to use the blue-sided deco originally if the sticker map and boxart are any indication, but for whatever reason they went with the black-hooded deco instead. Or the cartoon did, anyway, while the toy changed the hood from black to silver because dot dot dot question mark.

[chuckdawg1999]

Amazon got the sports car patrol in but not the off road patrol surprisingly.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.

I see, thanks for the info you two! Must have missed that one.

Sawback's the name, modeled after the Japan-only Headmaster Lione.

[Skritz]

I know that's Prime master Skullgrin decoy armour in that clawed galaxy upgrade pic but what's the lion? Also I still say that Cybertron Leader is the better toy

As for Soundwave, I'm glad they didn't do the boom box mode, it just wouldn't have made sense in a pre earth setting (doing a toyline on 80s based alt modes? Knock yourselves out) I do like his ship mode but it definitely feels like they were just messing around in not mode to come up with something that could move.

thats a titanmaster from titans return, it was a lion that turned into a shield

Well, more accurately its said Titan Master's vehicle accessory.

I see, thanks for the info you two! Must have missed that one.

Sawback's the name, modeled after the Japan-only Headmaster Lione.

Also known as 'he-of-the-long-face'.

[Stargrave]

I just had to share I touched it up a little bit full armor mode man this actually looks kinda neat

[Skritz]

They dropped the ball by not making a Weaponizer Leobreak. Also there's the fact a Weaponizer lion could have been retooled into Victory Leo.

[Stargrave]

They dropped the ball by not making a Weaponizer Leobreak. Also there's the fact a Weaponizer lion could have been retooled into Victory Leo.

Skritz that’s brilliant!

[ZeroWolf]

There's always time, still got two more lines in this trilogy

[Wireless_Phantom]

They dropped the ball by not making a Weaponizer Leobreak. Also there's the fact a Weaponizer lion could have been retooled into Victory Leo.

I'm not sure that would really work. He'd probably have to be a voyager (a voyager weaponizer would be awesome) and that would be okay but I'm not sure it would work to just retool one into the other. When it comes to lion-bots Leobreaker is among the most conventional of beast transformation schemes while Victory Leo uses a very different one, especially in regards to the lion head. That and I will contest to this day that what Victory Leo turns in to looks nothing like a lion.

[Skritz]

They dropped the ball by not making a Weaponizer Leobreak. Also there's the fact a Weaponizer lion could have been retooled into Victory Leo.

I'm not sure that would really work. He'd probably have to be a voyager (a voyager weaponizer would be awesome) and that would be okay but I'm not sure it would work to just retool one into the other. When it comes to lion-bots Leobreaker is among the most conventional of beast transformation schemes while Victory Leo uses a very different one, especially in regards to the lion head. That and I will contest to this day that what Victory Leo turns in to looks nothing like a lion.

Yes, I'm well aware of that but let's not forget Hasbro has often done some really, really weird retools which disregard the look/transformation scheme of a character before. All I'm saying is that a lion-themed Weaponizer happen to have basis in two characters, both associated with a guy who would make a good Leader-class toy in this trilogy who would make good use of getting another dude plugged on to them as some wonky power up. Of these two guys, one already exist in toy form for said line (Galaxy Convoy) and the other is a hypothetical figure which both the fanbase and Hasbro have talked about extensively who has never manifested in CHUG form.

All I'm saying is a Victory Leo Weaponizer retool into some crude approximation of Leobreak would be nice especially if one thing you can do with him is stick most of the bulk on a figure's arm to make a bigass claw much like how Sixgun has the hand mode. As for Voyager weaponizers it would definitely break the trend of what Hasbro has done with them so far but not be implausible since I already established there is a decent enough roster of UT-era guys who would make good larger weaponizers: Leobreaker, Overload and Wing Saber coming to mind. Possibly Tidal Wave too and the aformentionned Victory Leo being a G1 example, in his case even having the 'boots' setup all Weaponizers have.

Honestly you can make the point that Weaponizers are a more 'universal' version of what Godbomber and Victory Leo started, which is to say a 'magic mushroom' character who exist primarily to break apart into weapon parts to stick on someone else.

[Epsilon Delta]

They dropped the ball by not making a Weaponizer Leobreak. Also there's the fact a Weaponizer lion could have been retooled into Victory Leo.

I'm not sure that would really work. He'd probably have to be a voyager (a voyager weaponizer would be awesome) and that would be okay but I'm not sure it would work to just retool one into the other. When it comes to lion-bots Leobreaker is among the most conventional of beast transformation schemes while Victory Leo uses a very different one, especially in regards to the lion head. That and I will contest to this day that what Victory Leo turns in to looks nothing like a lion.

Yes, I'm well aware of that but let's not forget Hasbro has often done some really, really weird retools which disregard the look/transformation scheme of a character before. All I'm saying is that a lion-themed Weaponizer happen to have basis in two characters, both associated with a guy who would make a good Leader-class toy in this trilogy who would make good use of getting another dude plugged on to them as some wonky power up. Of these two guys, one already exist in toy form for said line (Galaxy Convoy) and the other is a hypothetical figure which both the fanbase and Hasbro have talked about extensively who has never manifested in CHUG form.

All I'm saying is a Victory Leo Weaponizer retool into some crude approximation of Leobreak would be nice especially if one thing you can do with him is stick most of the bulk on a figure's arm to make a bigass claw much like how Sixgun has the hand mode. As for Voyager weaponizers it would definitely break the trend of what Hasbro has done with them so far but not be implausible since I already established there is a decent enough roster of UT-era guys who would make good larger weaponizers: Leobreaker, Overload and Wing Saber coming to mind. Possibly Tidal Wave too and the aformentionned Victory Leo being a G1 example, in his case even having the 'boots' setup all Weaponizers have.

Honestly you can make the point that Weaponizers are a more 'universal' version of what Godbomber and Victory Leo started, which is to say a 'magic mushroom' character who exist primarily to break apart into weapon parts to stick on someone else.

They repainted Leobreaker into Lio Convoy, which didn't make sense other than both being Lions, and even Orion Pax into Lio Convoy. The thing I liked was how the head became a shoulder for Lio Convoy, but all the retools/repaints took that away. So pretty much as long as they vaguely resemble something, sort of, maybe not, Hasbro is happy to slap the name on there. I don't think a weaponizer Leobreaker/Victory Leo would be too much out of the question. And like we always say: "scale? What is scale?"

[sol magnus]

And like we always say: "scale? What is scale?"

uhh, something that has made me personally spend 1000s of dollars.

[Skritz]

Personally I'm fine with 'rough scaling' via mass retail size classes. This is why I waited for a Voyager Soundwave to come along.