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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:47 pm

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Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm just really bugged by 'Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime' lacking the Cybetron/Galaxy Force head in his smaller form. Yeah, I get this is a GEEWUN line and all that but with the Voyager being clearly the 'main' Optimus of that line would it have killed Hasbro to give us the Primal-styled 'open mouthplate' look for the smaller to better complete look, even taking into account the Siege figure has a different transformation.

It would have made a world of difference I think.

I agree that that is one thing he sorely needed. He's fantastic, but that would have been an extra layer of ultra sweet icing


Beside, he would have stilled looked like Optimus Prime at a glance even without that G1 head, really.

What's even more upsetting is the fact that they didn't even go full G1 with the head since it still has the yellow eyes. If they'd gone full G1 with the blue eyes, then fine. Whatever. But the yellow eyes are such a tease :-( :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:54 pm

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Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:

Never, there is only one mold we will ever need.

No way man. Rip those electronics out and give more articulation to the torso!

And possibly make the sword out of a different material. The rubber does not hold up well in the tropics...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:03 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
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Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm just really bugged by 'Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime' lacking the Cybetron/Galaxy Force head in his smaller form. Yeah, I get this is a GEEWUN line and all that but with the Voyager being clearly the 'main' Optimus of that line would it have killed Hasbro to give us the Primal-styled 'open mouthplate' look for the smaller to better complete look, even taking into account the Siege figure has a different transformation.

It would have made a world of difference I think.

I agree that that is one thing he sorely needed. He's fantastic, but that would have been an extra layer of ultra sweet icing


Beside, he would have stilled looked like Optimus Prime at a glance even without that G1 head, really.

What's even more upsetting is the fact that they didn't even go full G1 with the head since it still has the yellow eyes. If they'd gone full G1 with the blue eyes, then fine. Whatever. But the yellow eyes are such a tease :-( :lol:


Yellow eyes are a mix of visual consistency with the super mode+homage to the Diaclone/G1 toy coloring.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:09 pm

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Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:

Never, there is only one mold we will ever need.

No way man. Rip those electronics out and give more articulation to the torso!

And possibly make the sword out of a different material. The rubber does not hold up well in the tropics...

This.

the Vector Prime mold is good, but it can definitely have some improvements in articulation, swords, and maybe wing size too, they are a bit small and bad material.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Microbot » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:38 pm

Chuck's Reviews Transformers Siege Red Alert


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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby mordhelm » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:35 pm

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I wish that was me being humorous but no....anyone order breakfast because I’ve got egg aaaaall over m’face. Humble pie for desert.
Man I seriously tried so hard to get it right and I brain farted.

Anyone been to Wal-Mert or Tairget lately :lol:


It's all good. For a bit I was wondering if it was an in-joke that I wasn't aware of.

So this reminds of Siege now. How many pronunciations for Impactor are there.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:47 pm

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So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:01 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:12 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?


It just says "Microx M" which is a reference to his original microman toy. Its just a fun easter egg, I wouldnt take it to mean anything else. And the pic is just an artist's take on the camera mode, I wouldn't make more of it than that.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:21 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?


It just says "Microx M" which is a reference to his original microman toy. Its just a fun easter egg, I wouldnt take it to mean anything else. And the pic is just an artist's take on the camera mode, I wouldn't make more of it than that.

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Hasbro is releasing two simultaneous case assortments of wave 3 right now, so getting three reflectors shouldn't be the toughest thing.


Any guesses on those extra parts?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:34 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?


It just says "Microx M" which is a reference to his original microman toy. Its just a fun easter egg, I wouldnt take it to mean anything else. And the pic is just an artist's take on the camera mode, I wouldn't make more of it than that.

Image

Hasbro is releasing two simultaneous case assortments of wave 3 right now, so getting three reflectors shouldn't be the toughest thing.


Any guesses on those extra parts?


The flash cube and whatever's covering... Spectro (the right side) may have been planned, but dropped later in development. If so, I'm happy the designers at least considered the cube: no camera's complete without it.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:46 pm

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00Stargrave00 wrote:
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00Stargrave00 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?


It just says "Microx M" which is a reference to his original microman toy. Its just a fun easter egg, I wouldnt take it to mean anything else. And the pic is just an artist's take on the camera mode, I wouldn't make more of it than that.

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Hasbro is releasing two simultaneous case assortments of wave 3 right now, so getting three reflectors shouldn't be the toughest thing.


Any guesses on those extra parts?


yes, I wrote it: artist's take on the camera mode. That looks a lot like the artist renders on toys we have seen before. It's the first thing that is done and then its given to the Hasbro team to use as a base for a toy. Lots of changes may happen in between for functionality's sake, hence why they don't look exactly alike.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:47 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


What’s the box code?


It just says "Microx M" which is a reference to his original microman toy. Its just a fun easter egg, I wouldnt take it to mean anything else. And the pic is just an artist's take on the camera mode, I wouldn't make more of it than that.

Image

Hasbro is releasing two simultaneous case assortments of wave 3 right now, so getting three reflectors shouldn't be the toughest thing.

Ah alright. Was just vaguely hoping that if a boxset did come to pass that it'd be in toy accurate decos just to help make each figure unique. Oh well :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Ah alright. Was just vaguely hoping that if a boxset did come to pass that it'd be in toy accurate decos just to help make each figure unique. Oh well :D


It's as likely now as it was before the pic existed.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:10 pm

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Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:
They blew their best and most obvious chance with this:

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And instead gave us this:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:17 am

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Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:
They blew their best and most obvious chance with this:

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And instead gave us this:

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Hey Sabr, I think you must have been on cruise control. Because Landmine is the Alpha Trion Prime Master. It's Metalhawk who's the Vector Prime Prime Master.

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Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:

Never, there is only one mold we will ever need.

No way man. Rip those electronics out and give more articulation to the torso!

And possibly make the sword out of a different material. The rubber does not hold up well in the tropics...

This.

the Vector Prime mold is good, but it can definitely have some improvements in articulation, swords, and maybe wing size too, they are a bit small and bad material.

The wings are rubber because that let them stay transparent while not being at risk of shattering sharp pointy shards were he to be thrown or dropped. A lot of mixes of hard clear plastic tend to be on the brittle side. Maybe if HasTak had Lego's clear plastic recipe his wings would have passed the drop test while rigid, but they don't.

I love the original Vector Prime toy, but I do think it could stand improvement (bicep swivels, making the laser sound effect be operated by a button instead of by moving an arm that's not even the arm Safeguard attaches to, maybe some torso articulation). A CHUG Vector Prime would have to be Leader-class to improve on the original, though, due to shrinkage.

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Oh, yesssssssssssssss

It's yeeeeeess, actually :P

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00Stargrave00 wrote:And while we're at it I'm sure this has already been pointed out but this guy's got to be on his way down the line...
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I would love to see them take the opportunity with Fasttrack to really have him integrate well with whatever Scorponok ends up being. Like have his component pieces be great guns but can also double as towers or repair equipment, something like that.

Hmm, I wonder if they'll just retool Omega Supreme for him.

I was looking at my Trypticon for the longest time just at his torso and wondering if there was any way they'd end up repurposing that for a future Titan and I can see a little Scorpy in there.

I do hope that we'll get Scorponok as the titan in the next line. Mostly because he's long overdue. Though, I can't decide if I would want them to keep the headmaster the same size as the other headmasters and give him a helmet, or give him a legends class headmaster maybe with the option of storing a normal sized headmaster (sorta like Trypticon with Full-Tilt storing Necro). And I'd imagine that if they did, they'd either include Fasttrack with Scorponok or make him available in the same line

Well, they could do a legends-class Zarak that a normal-size one stows inside and which is then covered by a helmet in head mode a la the original Scorponok toy. Or they could have the big robot head permanently attached, and have Zarak plug into it like Wipe Out (AKA Necro) plugs into Trypticon's head. Doing it that way, Zarak could be used to deploy Scorponok's robot mode face like Wipe Out deploys Trypticon's snout gun.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:3) Refraktor is just great. He's taller than I imagined, and I guess that's a good thing, and he has a really cool looking space cruiser mode. Camera is where it takes the cake though, but I only have 2 right now so I can't fully make it. I really feel this is a superior product to all the 3P versions out there, in terms of look, posabilty, and value.

Overall, this wave has some really great figures going for it, and I'm excited about the Voyager waves coming soon!

Ye gods yes... The 3P Reflectors were all carved with an ugly stick.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:37 am

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That pic of Vector Prime and Galaxy Upgrade Prime says quite a bit about modern Transformers.

A commentor on my Refraktor video had the brilliant idea of the extra parts being Battlemasters to pad out the set.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:44 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:That pic of Vector Prime and Galaxy Upgrade Prime says quite a bit about modern Transformers.

Indeed, although in fairness Galaxy Upgrade Optimus is essentially an armor-clad Voyaager
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:23 am

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Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm just really bugged by 'Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime' lacking the Cybetron/Galaxy Force head in his smaller form. Yeah, I get this is a GEEWUN line and all that but with the Voyager being clearly the 'main' Optimus of that line would it have killed Hasbro to give us the Primal-styled 'open mouthplate' look for the smaller to better complete look, even taking into account the Siege figure has a different transformation.

It would have made a world of difference I think.

I agree that that is one thing he sorely needed. He's fantastic, but that would have been an extra layer of ultra sweet icing


Beside, he would have stilled looked like Optimus Prime at a glance even without that G1 head, really.

What's even more upsetting is the fact that they didn't even go full G1 with the head since it still has the yellow eyes. If they'd gone full G1 with the blue eyes, then fine. Whatever. But the yellow eyes are such a tease :-( :lol:

I honestly wouldn't even change that about the figure. I get that having the inner bot be G1-based is lazy to many people, but I'm fine with it. It's a good way to get around having two completely different character named Optimus Prime running around in the lore of a G1 setting (hence "Galaxy Upgrade" in the first place), it matches the G1 toy, and since I grew up on the Unicron Trilogy, I'm more used to Prime having yellow eyes than blue anyway. Plus, I always associate the open mouthplate look more with Primal than I ever did with Prime, especially when it blatantly looks like Primal's face design like the Cybertron design did, so I prefer it stay his thing anyway.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:15 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


I can confirm the image, as I discovered this about a month ago. This is what you see when you put his code (REFLECTOR) in the site:

Siege-Refraktor-Secrete-Message-02.jpg


As you can see, this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming, or whether thus was the original design that was scrapped.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:25 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.
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Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:51 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before. In any case, I think we'll have our answers about a month from now at SDCC.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:00 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance, even then it's only the ambiguous "Classified" for the missing limb coupled with the name of Greenlight's significant other:

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Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:05 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance. Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?


If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype. I wouldn't say a possible boxset is out of the question. Surely HasTak recognizes that there is demand for a complete set?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:09 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype.


I saw the rest but I didnt want to talk about the rest, just that part. To me this is no different than the numerous other rumours based on art which spread to massive misinformation in the past.
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