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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:10 am

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Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:
They blew their best and most obvious chance with this:

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And instead gave us this:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:17 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:
They blew their best and most obvious chance with this:

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And instead gave us this:

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Hey Sabr, I think you must have been on cruise control. Because Landmine is the Alpha Trion Prime Master. It's Metalhawk who's the Vector Prime Prime Master.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:CHUG Vector Prime when, Hasbro?! :HEADHURTS:

Never, there is only one mold we will ever need.

No way man. Rip those electronics out and give more articulation to the torso!

And possibly make the sword out of a different material. The rubber does not hold up well in the tropics...

This.

the Vector Prime mold is good, but it can definitely have some improvements in articulation, swords, and maybe wing size too, they are a bit small and bad material.

The wings are rubber because that let them stay transparent while not being at risk of shattering sharp pointy shards were he to be thrown or dropped. A lot of mixes of hard clear plastic tend to be on the brittle side. Maybe if HasTak had Lego's clear plastic recipe his wings would have passed the drop test while rigid, but they don't.

I love the original Vector Prime toy, but I do think it could stand improvement (bicep swivels, making the laser sound effect be operated by a button instead of by moving an arm that's not even the arm Safeguard attaches to, maybe some torso articulation). A CHUG Vector Prime would have to be Leader-class to improve on the original, though, due to shrinkage.

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:No... no, noooo!!!


Oh, yesssssssssssssss

It's yeeeeeess, actually :P

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00Stargrave00 wrote:And while we're at it I'm sure this has already been pointed out but this guy's got to be on his way down the line...
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I would love to see them take the opportunity with Fasttrack to really have him integrate well with whatever Scorponok ends up being. Like have his component pieces be great guns but can also double as towers or repair equipment, something like that.

Hmm, I wonder if they'll just retool Omega Supreme for him.

I was looking at my Trypticon for the longest time just at his torso and wondering if there was any way they'd end up repurposing that for a future Titan and I can see a little Scorpy in there.

I do hope that we'll get Scorponok as the titan in the next line. Mostly because he's long overdue. Though, I can't decide if I would want them to keep the headmaster the same size as the other headmasters and give him a helmet, or give him a legends class headmaster maybe with the option of storing a normal sized headmaster (sorta like Trypticon with Full-Tilt storing Necro). And I'd imagine that if they did, they'd either include Fasttrack with Scorponok or make him available in the same line

Well, they could do a legends-class Zarak that a normal-size one stows inside and which is then covered by a helmet in head mode a la the original Scorponok toy. Or they could have the big robot head permanently attached, and have Zarak plug into it like Wipe Out (AKA Necro) plugs into Trypticon's head. Doing it that way, Zarak could be used to deploy Scorponok's robot mode face like Wipe Out deploys Trypticon's snout gun.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:3) Refraktor is just great. He's taller than I imagined, and I guess that's a good thing, and he has a really cool looking space cruiser mode. Camera is where it takes the cake though, but I only have 2 right now so I can't fully make it. I really feel this is a superior product to all the 3P versions out there, in terms of look, posabilty, and value.

Overall, this wave has some really great figures going for it, and I'm excited about the Voyager waves coming soon!

Ye gods yes... The 3P Reflectors were all carved with an ugly stick.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:37 am

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Microbot wrote:Chuck's Reviews Transformers Siege Red Alert


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxgFNgba0M


Amen I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

That pic of Vector Prime and Galaxy Upgrade Prime says quite a bit about modern Transformers.

A commentor on my Refraktor video had the brilliant idea of the extra parts being Battlemasters to pad out the set.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:44 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:That pic of Vector Prime and Galaxy Upgrade Prime says quite a bit about modern Transformers.

Indeed, although in fairness Galaxy Upgrade Optimus is essentially an armor-clad Voyaager
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 am

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Skritz wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:Honestly I'm just really bugged by 'Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime' lacking the Cybetron/Galaxy Force head in his smaller form. Yeah, I get this is a GEEWUN line and all that but with the Voyager being clearly the 'main' Optimus of that line would it have killed Hasbro to give us the Primal-styled 'open mouthplate' look for the smaller to better complete look, even taking into account the Siege figure has a different transformation.

It would have made a world of difference I think.

I agree that that is one thing he sorely needed. He's fantastic, but that would have been an extra layer of ultra sweet icing


Beside, he would have stilled looked like Optimus Prime at a glance even without that G1 head, really.

What's even more upsetting is the fact that they didn't even go full G1 with the head since it still has the yellow eyes. If they'd gone full G1 with the blue eyes, then fine. Whatever. But the yellow eyes are such a tease :-( :lol:

I honestly wouldn't even change that about the figure. I get that having the inner bot be G1-based is lazy to many people, but I'm fine with it. It's a good way to get around having two completely different character named Optimus Prime running around in the lore of a G1 setting (hence "Galaxy Upgrade" in the first place), it matches the G1 toy, and since I grew up on the Unicron Trilogy, I'm more used to Prime having yellow eyes than blue anyway. Plus, I always associate the open mouthplate look more with Primal than I ever did with Prime, especially when it blatantly looks like Primal's face design like the Cybertron design did, so I prefer it stay his thing anyway.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:15 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, I just watched Chuck's review of Refraktor/Reflector and at the end he mentioned that on Hasbro's site, when you use the code from his box, you see the three Reflectors with additional parts for a flashbulb and Cybertronian text. I hate being skeptical, but seeing as a gift set of Reflector would be nice to see and potentially get instead of trying to hunt down 3 at retail, can anyone verify/translate the text?


I can confirm the image, as I discovered this about a month ago. This is what you see when you put his code (REFLECTOR) in the site:

Siege-Refraktor-Secrete-Message-02.jpg


As you can see, this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming, or whether thus was the original design that was scrapped.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:25 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:51 am

william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before. In any case, I think we'll have our answers about a month from now at SDCC.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:00 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance, even then it's only the ambiguous "Classified" for the missing limb coupled with the name of Greenlight's significant other:

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Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:05 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance. Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?


If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype. I wouldn't say a possible boxset is out of the question. Surely HasTak recognizes that there is demand for a complete set?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype.


I saw the rest but I didnt want to talk about the rest, just that part. To me this is no different than the numerous other rumours based on art which spread to massive misinformation in the past.
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Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype.


I saw the rest but I didnt want to talk about the rest, just that part. To me this is no different than the numerous other rumours based on art which spread to massive misinformation in the past.
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Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:09 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype.


I saw the rest but I didnt want to talk about the rest, just that part. To me this is no different than the numerous other rumours based on art which spread to massive misinformation in the past.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:15 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance. Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?


If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype. I wouldn't say a possible boxset is out of the question. Surely HasTak recognizes that there is demand for a complete set?


Not totally impossible, but I wouldn't hold out hope. Like I did for the missing PotP Decoy Suits. :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:43 am

No one has pointed out an obvious flaw with the box set logic: the code comes with the Refraktor toy. Ostensibly, the person putting the code into the site just bought 1-3 of those toys. Why would you hint at a box set for a new, comparable version of the product the customer just bought?!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:52 am

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AcademyofDrX wrote:No one has pointed out an obvious flaw with the box set logic: the code comes with the Refraktor toy. Ostensibly, the person putting the code into the site just bought 1-3 of those toys. Why would you hint at a box set for a new, comparable version of the product the customer just bought?!


Good point, didn't think about that.

There are a multitude of possibilities that could happen.

Maybe a G1 toy inspired boxset could come out?

Maybe the picture is meant to reveal the "hidden" camera mode? But again, where did the extra accessories come from? :-?

Perhaps SDCC will reveal something, because I am also itching to see those 35th anniversary redecoed Siege Prime and Megatron, as well as Soundblaster :x
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Epsilon Delta » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:55 am

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:this shows that there maybe be a possible boxset coming

I feel its a mighty huge leap to take from one image.


Well, maybe or maybe not. Didn't the code for Greenlight sort of reveal Lancer as a possibility? If I'm recalling that correctly then Hasbro has used the codes to reveal things before.


Only in this instance. Taking precedent from Cybertron's online content, more often than not it was design sketches, color charts and other development material. Is the camera mode advertised on the box in any way?


If you had seen the rest of my sentence, I said that it could have also been design sketches or a prototype. I wouldn't say a possible boxset is out of the question. Surely HasTak recognizes that there is demand for a complete set?


I'm sure they do, which is why they haven't said anything. They want everyone to buy they 3 retail ones first, then when the box set comes out, they'll have to buy it all over again because it has a slightly different deco on it. They know us collectors all too well
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:55 am

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Sorry to repeat myself, but I feel this question got buried by the more current news of Wave 3 stuff coming out, but if anyone has any info, it would be appreciated. If not, I guess we'll stand by and wait.

o.supreme wrote:back on 2/20/19, news broke about listings for a Voyager Apeface & Leader Astrotrain for the Siege Line:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/42973/

However...since this news broke, we've gotten a few nice reveals of other figures presumably being released before these. I just wonder though... are the lines fluid enough that they could be pushed back as early releases for the 2020 line? It's just the lack of news thus far (which could change with SDCC)...and the fact that these are only 12 months lines now has me a bit skeptical. By this time last year, everything about PotP had been revealed, aside from any Selects or exclusives.

It is nice that Siege seems to have a more robust 4th wave, of which these 2 could certainly be a part of, but one would think their target date would be closer to October rather than December...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby joevill » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:56 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:02 am

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joevill wrote:Were you able to purchase? Siege Galaxy Prime has leaked my local Target shelves but has a lock date in July so they couldn't sell it to me.


This is what i don't get. I am sure there are some dates for certain items, but I've seen them *leak* before, and get purchased. I've seen Leader Prime at both Walmart and Target already, though admittedly I haven't tried to purchase it since its not one I'm after. I also saw Godzilla toys (exclusive to Walmart) leaked in some stores weeks before they should have been on shelves. I even purchased items before their supposed retail release date many years ago when I worked in retail. I'm not sure what, if any, consequence there is when this date is violated.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:53 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Sorry to repeat myself, but I feel this question got buried by the more current news of Wave 3 stuff coming out, but if anyone has any info, it would be appreciated. If not, I guess we'll stand by and wait.

o.supreme wrote:back on 2/20/19, news broke about listings for a Voyager Apeface & Leader Astrotrain for the Siege Line:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/42973/

However...since this news broke, we've gotten a few nice reveals of other figures presumably being released before these. I just wonder though... are the lines fluid enough that they could be pushed back as early releases for the 2020 line? It's just the lack of news thus far (which could change with SDCC)...and the fact that these are only 12 months lines now has me a bit skeptical. By this time last year, everything about PotP had been revealed, aside from any Selects or exclusives.

It is nice that Siege seems to have a more robust 4th wave, of which these 2 could certainly be a part of, but one would think their target date would be closer to October rather than December...


I haven’t heard any murmurings about either of these items and I have been keeping an eye out for sure. I can’t wait to see what they do with those two if they actually released them but there’s been no news of them since.
If these are still coming out I could see a huge reveal at San Diego con, and with the lack of news so far maybe it’s the one time they were actually able to keep things under wraps who knows.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:55 pm

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I’m only planning to get one Refraktor for now but so help me I’m determined to utilize Decepticon Battle Masters and/or Weaponizers to fanmode those extra pieces. <sssssssniff> ah I love the smell of a challenge.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:02 pm

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Checked 3 Wal-Marts and a Target this morning - nothing. Soooo bummed.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:09 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Sorry to repeat myself, but I feel this question got buried by the more current news of Wave 3 stuff coming out, but if anyone has any info, it would be appreciated. If not, I guess we'll stand by and wait.

o.supreme wrote:back on 2/20/19, news broke about listings for a Voyager Apeface & Leader Astrotrain for the Siege Line:

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ore/42973/

However...since this news broke, we've gotten a few nice reveals of other figures presumably being released before these. I just wonder though... are the lines fluid enough that they could be pushed back as early releases for the 2020 line? It's just the lack of news thus far (which could change with SDCC)...and the fact that these are only 12 months lines now has me a bit skeptical. By this time last year, everything about PotP had been revealed, aside from any Selects or exclusives.

It is nice that Siege seems to have a more robust 4th wave, of which these 2 could certainly be a part of, but one would think their target date would be closer to October rather than December...

I'm sure they'll be in the next line. Considering the lack of evidence that they exist outside of the listing and release date, I wouldn't be surprised if they're part of the next line or it as a misunderstanding on the retailer's part. Personally, I'd be surprised if Astrotrain is confirmed because we got him in Titans Return, but if Apeface isn't confirmed, I'd be disappointed because he deserves to have his robot body, not just be some spare head. If we do end up getting Apeface, I'd be shocked if we didn't also get Snapdragon.

Which, does bring up a question I've been having since the rumor came out: How would you guys want Hasbro to handle the double headmasters? Have it be the same as the G1 toys, go the cartoon approach and have the beast heads not be formed by the partners, or have two separate headmasters for Beast and Bot mode? Because I can see an argument for the first two and some unique tooling for the heads so they can be double sided, but given Hasbro's handling of the other headmasters, I can't see a way to make it work.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:"Our World's are in Danger!"

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No... no, noooo!!!



THE AUTOBOTS WAGE THEIR BATTLE...TO DESTROOOOYYYY THE EVIL FORCES OF THE DECEPTICONS!


Ah, I love this theme song, and I never even grew up with the show, nor have I seen it :-P


Hearing that brings back so many good memories. Am I the only one who thinks that Garry Chalk should take up the mantle permanently once Peter Cullen retires?
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