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by **nanten** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:54 pm

This has probably been brought up before but will they be in the next version and how will they work?

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:59 pm

Its been brought up once or twice in the past, yes. :lol:

They probably will be possible, but a hell of a long way off.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:18 pm

nanten wrote:next version

???

What next version???

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:44 pm

Caelus wrote:
nanten wrote:next version

???

What next version???

I'm assuming it's this Version 2.0 I keep hearing people talk about.

News Credits: 1 · by **crazyfists** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:08 pm

Didn't the Quint missions in the lower levels have a triple changer?

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:20 pm

crazyfists wrote:Didn't the Quint missions in the lower levels have a triple changer?

Da, based on the E-Hobby repaint of Blitzwing.

It was my idea actually...

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:23 pm

How did that work exactly? Did it just have the tactics for a jet and a tank? Or did it function like having two differnt alts with different tactic sets?

News Credits: 3 · by **Darth Trader** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:54 pm

Hasn't O.S. and other mods Already dispelled the version 2 rumors multiple times?

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:12 pm

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Hasn't O.S. and other mods Already dispelled the version 2 rumors multiple times?

You clearly missed the 'leaks' Burn... 'leaked' of 'ideas' he thought would be good, that just happened to be screen shots of OS's team on something that was but wasnt HMW....

You've also clearly missed all OS's 'You may not see it, but Im doing a lot of work behind the scenes' messages, and anybody can tell you he isnt working on this version or the forums... so what else could he be workign on I wonder...?

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Anyway, back on topic. The real problem with tripple changers as far as I can see them (especilly *if* V2 does happen, and *if* it does end up with 3 tactics per charecter) is how exactly you would impliment them in a way that would distinguish them from normal tfs?

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:36 pm

lol owned. But seriously. Anyone care to answer my question about the cool thing from before I had an account to see it pl0x?

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:43 pm

The quint missions were from before the introduction of the beast factions. They were open to the two factions, who fought together against the quint faction, which was completly NPC populated. If memory serves me right, there were three missions, for different level ranges. The lowest one included a tripple changer on the quint side.

Unfortunetly, I wasnt low enough a level to experiance what it did, and no one was able ot play it. So if it really was a tripple changer, or just a three tactic charecter, or something else entirely, I know not.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:16 am

pRedimus wrote:
Galvatron Supreme wrote:Hasn't O.S. and other mods Already dispelled the version 2 rumors multiple times?

You clearly missed the 'leaks' Burn... 'leaked' of 'ideas' he thought would be good, that just happened to be screen shots of OS's team on something that was but wasnt HMW....

You've also clearly missed all OS's 'You may not see it, but Im doing a lot of work behind the scenes' messages, and anybody can tell you he isnt working on this version or the forums... so what else could he be workign on I wonder...?

My cousin in Brooklyn has a bridge you might be interested in buying...

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:30 am

If memory serves, it transformed into a tank or a jet depending on the alt it wanted.

Ooo a bridge in brooklynn?! How much is he selling it for?!

by **Tammuz** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:08 am

so says the guy who made the thread "what faction will you be in v2?" and has commented on the fact that there are "more pages" that aren't linked to "than we know", Burn's let the cat out the bag, crazyfist's said he was being sarcastic when he said V2 wasn't happening, and OS locks threads when i bring up this link; which keeps changing, with new bits being added to it's side bar

the hookers dead guys, stop.

anyway the triple changer had ram, Strafe, and avoid. it didn't use the specific alt mode for each tactic, it just used this icon;

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:20 am

Tammuz wrote:so says the guy who made the thread "what faction will you be in v2?"

You mean the thread I started like a year ago (when v2 was on the books) that someone had to sacrifice a goat to raise from the dead?

Burn's let the cat out the bag

Since when did Burn become a trustworthy corner stone of this community?

crazyfist's said he was being sarcastic when he said V2 wasn't happening

As I recall no one was perfectly clear on exactly what was and wasn't sarcasm in that conversation, including CF.

...and OS locks threads when...

Which is exactly what I'd do if I wanted to screw with that perfectly calibrated, mathematically inclined, number-crunching super calculator on your shoulders. :twisted:

But fine, don't believe me, go chase the rainbow.

I suppose I can't blame you; I had my fingers crossed that they'd really found Bigfoot when that last big hoax happened last Summer.

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Oh, and I also never got a chance to fight against the Triplechanger drones, so I never knew too much about how they played either.

Speaking of drones, a Maximal&Predacon team up vs NPC Vehicons would be fun...

by **Tammuz** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:27 am

why does that link keep getting updated cealus?

and i'd trust burn alot further than the rest of the staff, he can actually lie convincingly. mkall couldn't, OS can't, and you certainly aren't good a duplicity, you try to argue, and then you get caught out.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:30 am

Tammuz wrote:anyway the triple changer had ram, Strafe, and avoid. it didn't use the specific alt mode for each tactic, it just used this icon;

It did however say "Transforms into ___ and [performs tactic]" So while the image didn't change, the reference did.

by **Lord Gothika** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:58 am

Caelus wrote:Speaking of drones, a Maximal&Predacon team up vs NPC Vehicons would be fun...

Thast it would, it would be a valid reason for the beast factions to get a full mission

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:13 am

Tammuz wrote:Burn's let the cat out the bag,

To the best of my knowledge V2 is dead and buried.

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:53 am

Tammuz wrote:why does that link keep getting updated cealus?

Just to dispell the argument, your link was updated again.

No need to lock this thread since I'm sure we will get it back on topic. Its about triplechangers. Triplechangers are fun.

Like Me, Grimlock! on Facebook · by **Me, Grimlock!** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:01 am

That brings up a point. If Triplechangers are so far in the future that we're not really counting on them, why *not* make a triple- or quatruple-tactic TF? Maybe when Intelligence gets high enough (might be an extra incentive to invest in it) more tactics get unlocked? Don't know what's in the code, but OS, is it hard to add an extra two tactic slots? I mean, it might not make them that much different from a regular TF, but... it's something.

Caelus wrote:
Burn's let the cat out the bag

Since when did Burn become a trustworthy corner stone of this community?

To be fair, he's not the one whose cousin is selling the bridge in Brooklyn.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:05 am

I like Caelus's idea of facing the Vehicons. Which some of them could actually be triple changers. Going against drones and the generals would be fun :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:10 am

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Tammuz wrote:why does that link keep getting updated cealus?
Just to dispell the argument, your link was updated again.

No need to lock this thread since I'm sure we will get it back on topic. Its about triplechangers. Triplechangers are fun.

Seeing as you're here, and with the understanding that just cuase you say it dosnt mean it will get inplemented nor neccersarily the way you say right now, can you tell us any current opinions you have on the inplementaion of Tripplechangers?

News Credits: 5 · by **Omega Sentinel** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:13 am

Me, Grimlock! wrote: Don't know what's in the code, but OS, is it hard to add an extra two tactic slots? I mean, it might not make them that much different from a regular TF, but... it's something.

We actually had working triplechangers in the code with the Quintessons. Technically the Judge was a quintchanger. Adding the tactic to the user interface to allow you to manage all those tactics yourself would take quite a bit more work involving XP costs, alt modes and all the character interfaces.

So the short answer to your question is yes.

pRedimus wrote:Seeing as you're here, and with the understanding that just cuase you say it dosnt mean it will get inplemented nor neccersarily the way you say right now, can you tell us any current opinions you have on the inplementaion of Tripplechangers?

Well just opinion wise I always liked the concept. They worked well in the game the short time we saw them. But I also think it could cause some lopsidedness that would make the minicons look tame if it was implemented poorly.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:27 am

These were the tripplchangers that we faced during the quint invasion.

Overcharge Drones.

http://seibertron.com/heavymetalwar/charac...racter_id=69993

Possibly the biggest threat posed by the Quintessons. It is unknown if these drones are Cybertronians enslaved or are just modelled on Cybertronian schematics, but these triplechanging transformers carry Dol Laser rifles enabling them to be deadly opponents.

Stats.
Level 3
STR: 6
INT: 0
SPD: 7
END: 7
RNK: 1
CRG: 8
FRP: 2
SKL: 0

Tactics - 3 (special)
Not only formatted to be very powerful, but that have exceptional speed and use of their tactics.
Ram - As the standard Cybertronian tactic, they possess a strength that enables them to be pretty effective rammers. Also, as with normal Ram, this attack ignores armour, but Endurance is assumed to be effective against it.
Avoid - Again, as the Cybertronian tactic, these drones have a very high speed making them effective avoiders.

Strafe - The weakest of the Drones tactics, possessing low firepower limiting their shots to only a handful, this attack - again the same as the Cybertronian tactic - also ingores any armour worn by the opponent.

Weaknesses:
Tripledipper minicons. €3000 .
These Minicons are specifically designed to defend against the attacks of the Overcharge Drones, although please note that this does not stop them from avoiding melee attacks.