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Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Haven't listened yet, but SG Unicron was only truly a thing after the concept of Multiversal Singularities was formally done away with and disposed of. So now there's no longer only one of Unicron, Primus, and each of the Thirteen, in the multiverse. Now any universe can have their own unique versions of any of those guys (or have none of them, even, like how the U.S. G1 cartoon doesn't a Primus of its own).
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
It happened last year in the October/November 2015 issue of the TCC magazine, in "Another Light, Part 5: Out of the One, Many".megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Haven't listened yet, but SG Unicron was only truly a thing after the concept of Multiversal Singularities was formally done away with and disposed of. So now there's no longer only one of Unicron, Primus, and each of the Thirteen, in the multiverse. Now any universe can have their own unique versions of any of those guys (or have none of them, even, like how the U.S. G1 cartoon doesn't a Primus of its own).
Oh neat. We didn't know they had done away with that rule. Can you point us to where that happened or was announced?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:This particular plot point was covered not in the magazine comic, but instead via the Facebook fiction pages for Rook, Andromeda, the Axiom Nexus News Editor, and Vector Prime.
I'm sorry, Ryan, but who are you to make such a statement like this?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This particular plot point was covered not in the magazine comic, but instead via the Facebook fiction pages for Rook, Andromeda, the Axiom Nexus News Editor, and Vector Prime.
Then it doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the Fan Club doesn't count,
Seibertron wrote:especially considering how low the readership for that content must be.TFWiki wrote:As of July 16, 2015, Ask Vector Prime had a total readership of 7,263 people.
You just insulted Jim Sorenson, Jesse Wittenrich, and a host of other TF-savvy contributors (including James Roberts).Seibertron wrote:Now if James Roberts wrote an official in-cannon book that fit within the IDW continuity, that would be an entirely different story. But as long as they have people writing Transformers books that aren't that familiar with all of the intricacies of the Transformers, then it's not official in my book, copyright and trademark symbols be damned!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I'm sorry, Ryan, but who are you to make such a statement like this?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This particular plot point was covered not in the magazine comic, but instead via the Facebook fiction pages for Rook, Andromeda, the Axiom Nexus News Editor, and Vector Prime.
Then it doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the Fan Club doesn't count,
Made edits to my post above.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm sorry, Ryan, but who are you to make such a statement like this?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This particular plot point was covered not in the magazine comic, but instead via the Facebook fiction pages for Rook, Andromeda, the Axiom Nexus News Editor, and Vector Prime.
Then it doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the Fan Club doesn't count,
It's my opinion. It doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the fan club is still just fan fiction.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
You just insulted Jim Sorenson, Jesse Wittenrich, and a host of other TF-savvy contributors (including James Roberts).Seibertron wrote:Now if James Roberts wrote an official in-cannon book that fit within the IDW continuity, that would be an entirely different story. But as long as they have people writing Transformers books that aren't that familiar with all of the intricacies of the Transformers, then it's not official in my book, copyright and trademark symbols be damned!
Sabrblade wrote:Made edits to my post above.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm sorry, Ryan, but who are you to make such a statement like this?Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This particular plot point was covered not in the magazine comic, but instead via the Facebook fiction pages for Rook, Andromeda, the Axiom Nexus News Editor, and Vector Prime.
Then it doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the Fan Club doesn't count,
It's my opinion. It doesn't count. Fan fiction published by the fan club is still just fan fiction.
Microraptor wrote:I for one LOVE the multiversal concept. It allows a franchise to have a multitude of different takes on a concept without them having to be one off things. And really, the concept of a multiverse has been a part of transformers since it's inception.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What got me was the sweeping declaration that a certain medium of fiction is somehow less than official compared to other mediums when they all come from the same source of writers working from the same license as the likes of IDW and Hasbro Studios. I get it was meant as an opinion, but it came off as sounding like a factual statement.
It's fine if people don't like something. That's perfectly fine. But not liking something isn't the same as that something being objectively bad.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What got me was the sweeping declaration that a certain medium of fiction is somehow less than official compared to other mediums when they all come from the same source of writers working from the same license as the likes of IDW and Hasbro Studios. I get it was meant as an opinion, but it came off as sounding like a factual statement.
It's my opinion, but I have a suspicion that a lot of the fandom probably agrees!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Based on this conversation, the same seems to apply for you with digital prose fiction for Transformers. The medium isn't bad, but you don't care for it and prefer other mediums, which is ok.
I'd kill for a Jim Sorenson-written or a James Roberts-written TF novel, though.Seibertron wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Based on this conversation, the same seems to apply for you with digital prose fiction for Transformers. The medium isn't bad, but you don't care for it and prefer other mediums, which is ok.
Basically, but I also lumped in the poorly written novels which have been written by people like Alex Irvine and Alan Dean Foster, both excellent writers but poor Transformers fiction writers who don't strike me as actually caring about Transformers and are just collecting a paycheck.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Anyway, I think we've reached a point where we can finally put this behind us. Good talking, good sir.![]()
Sidenote: We need a handshaking smiley.
Seibertron wrote:Microraptor wrote:I for one LOVE the multiversal concept. It allows a franchise to have a multitude of different takes on a concept without them having to be one off things. And really, the concept of a multiverse has been a part of transformers since it's inception.
Just for the record, I'm OK with having multiple continuities to an extent. I don't like it, but if that's what it takes for Transformers to keep going, that's fine. If people need to call it a multiverse to acknowledge what's come before and after, whatever makes them happy. The aspect I strongly dislike is when it's used as a tool to allow characters from different universes to occupy the same space. Car Robots Fire Convoy and Beast Wars Optimus Primal don't ever need to exist together in the same story from those universes in my opinion. Case in point: Robot Masters was a storyline that didn't need to ever happen, same with the extremely screwed up Binaltech/KISS Players storyline.
Microraptor wrote:Here's the thing with the first example: Due to Japan's odd insistence on making everything G1, Car Robots and Beast wars actually exist in the same dimensional stream. So, bad example mate.
Ah, but his uses of the names "Fire Convoy" and "Optimus Primal" make it a valid example since "Optimus Primal" exists in English continuities while "Fire Convoy" is from a Japanese one.Microraptor wrote:Seibertron wrote:Microraptor wrote:I for one LOVE the multiversal concept. It allows a franchise to have a multitude of different takes on a concept without them having to be one off things. And really, the concept of a multiverse has been a part of transformers since it's inception.
Just for the record, I'm OK with having multiple continuities to an extent. I don't like it, but if that's what it takes for Transformers to keep going, that's fine. If people need to call it a multiverse to acknowledge what's come before and after, whatever makes them happy. The aspect I strongly dislike is when it's used as a tool to allow characters from different universes to occupy the same space. Car Robots Fire Convoy and Beast Wars Optimus Primal don't ever need to exist together in the same story from those universes in my opinion. Case in point: Robot Masters was a storyline that didn't need to ever happen, same with the extremely screwed up Binaltech/KISS Players storyline.
Here's the thing with the first example: Due to Japan's odd insistence on making everything G1, Car Robots and Beast wars actually exist in the same dimensional stream. So, bad example mate.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote:Microraptor wrote:Here's the thing with the first example: Due to Japan's odd insistence on making everything G1, Car Robots and Beast wars actually exist in the same dimensional stream. So, bad example mate.
Actually, that's the exact type of thing I'm talking about. There was no need for them to do that. Car Robots is a fine stand alone thing. It doesn't need to be tied into anything else and can exist on its own.
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