In a lot of cases, though, there may not be anymore toys to sell. For some examples from the past decade, the Unicron Trilogy cartoons all had definitive endings to their cartoons, as their toylines were also coming to an end.chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think the problem with giving definitive endings to cartoons is that it might kill the sales of any toys coming out since kids will think the story is over. Leaving things ambiguous, like in "Predacons Rising," allows the thought that things are still "happening."
If there were Transmetal 2 toys shelfwarming that late, then that must have been the fault of the stores ordering too many since there were no more TM2 toys being produced that late in the game (save for Tripredacus Agent). Not to mention that hardly any of them were show characters, so those didn't sell as well as the show character did anyway.Toralei_De_Nile wrote:I suppose a definite ending really does hurt series sales though. When BW First ended those Transmetal 2 figures were shelf warmers even up to RID/Car robots came out.
That's because those two toys weren't released until two years after the show ended. Hasbro wanted to drop the Animated line and move on to ROTF and the 2010 toylines, but fan demand for the figures managed to help squeeze those last few Animated toys out to retail, and only Toys"R"Us would carry them. so those two being on the shelves so much after the show ended wasn't due to shelfwarming, but due to such a delayed release for those figures.Toralei_De_Nile wrote:Recently-ish when Animated ended two years after Rodimus and Arcee toys were still on Toy's r'us shelves too.
Now that thing shelfwarmed regardless of whether or not the show was airing since very few even wanted that thing.Toralei_De_Nile wrote:The wal-mart I worked at still had that giant optimus prime, covered in a gross thick layer of dust in the back room and they put it out in the seasonal aisle during spring and summer time XD
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Counterpunch wrote:For the life of me I really can't remember talking about or criticising G1 enough to illicit some of the responses here.
No one on the show is a G1 hater. If you think that, you are wrong and you have clearly not been paying attention.
Further, if you think any portion of the franchise is beyond discussion and thereby criticism, then you have no place at the table to talk about the opinions of others.
Counterpunch wrote:Words
ScottyP wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Words
I think I just watched your signature gif for five straight minutes out of confusion.
burning_sirius wrote:You're G1 ideas, and great analysis of stories and characters.
ScottyP wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Words
I think I just watched your signature gif for five straight minutes out of confusion.
Kibble wrote:ScottyP wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Words
I think I just watched your signature gif for five straight minutes out of confusion.
Ah, yes...I need to make note of this excuse. I was watching it simply out of confusion! Brilliant!
Counterpunch wrote:Kibble wrote:ScottyP wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Words
I think I just watched your signature gif for five straight minutes out of confusion.
Ah, yes...I need to make note of this excuse. I was watching it simply out of confusion! Brilliant!
Watch carefully, she actually clutches the table when the waffle is put under her.
That look of concern is priceless.
Burn wrote:Damn staff members that think they can violate the sig guidelines with their distracting good looking chick gifs.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Counterpunch wrote:
Watch carefully, she actually clutches the table when the waffle is put under her.
That look of concern is priceless.
OK I'll ask. WHAT IN THE RED WHITE AND BLUE BLAZES IS UP WITH YOUR GIF?
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Burn wrote:Damn staff members that think they can violate the sig guidelines with their distracting good looking chick gifs.
There were girls in that? I just noticed the waffle.
Burn wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Burn wrote:Damn staff members that think they can violate the sig guidelines with their distracting good looking chick gifs.
There were girls in that? I just noticed the waffle.
Well I assume they're female, sometimes you can't be sure.
Sabrblade wrote:There are plenty of folks on this site who did grow up with the G1 cartoon but don't hold it to the same standard now as they once did as children. There are many aspects of the show that have simply not aged well, such as the lack of character development, the obvious commercialism of the plots, and the numerous animation errors.Ultra Markus wrote:im getting that those who dont like the G1 has never grew up with it as a kid and therefore has no appreciation and cant understand what the show ment to us that did watch it at the ages of 5-12
I liked the G1 cartoon as a preteen and still enjoy it to a point, but I accept that it was an imperfect product and contains many things that are more guilty pleasures than signs of legitimate quality.There's no such thing as a "True Transformers Fan".Ultra Markus wrote:so i say to all the G1 haters they are not really true Transformers fans if they cant accept all the Transformers eras have a special place of there own to be appreciated,
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Burn wrote:Damn staff members that think they can violate the sig guidelines with their distracting good looking chick gifs.
There were girls in that? I just noticed the waffle.
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I haven't finished the podcast, so I'm not sure what Counterpunch's question was that Seibertron answered with Bulkhead, but to me, Bulkhead is the standout character from Animated and Prime. Both versions are cool. I would love to see him get a Generations figure and get worked into the IDW continuity.
ScottyP wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I haven't finished the podcast, so I'm not sure what Counterpunch's question was that Seibertron answered with Bulkhead, but to me, Bulkhead is the standout character from Animated and Prime. Both versions are cool. I would love to see him get a Generations figure and get worked into the IDW continuity.
Bulkhead appears in Monstrosity, albeit in a minor role. Gotta wonder if he'll reappear during Dark Cybertron.
Your exact words were "those who don't like G1", not "those who hate G1". There is a difference between "not liking" something and "hating" something.Ultra Markus wrote:but no one who grew up with it hates it, is what i was saying..
Exactly. We were young and innocent, incapable of making objective opinions about quality and such. But now that we are, any of us a free to change our minds and decide for ourselves how we now feel about it, whether we still like it,no longer like it, or feel indifferent toward it.Ultra Markus wrote:and besides back in the mid eighties watching transformers as a young impressionable kid we thought this was cool we thought that there was none better and didn't think about the quality of the show..until now that we have grown up and can look back and can compare it to other shows then we say it wasn't that great but back then we thought otherwise...
The point I was making is that there's no such thing as a "true fan" since the term is so elitist that it cannot be adequately defined.Ultra Markus wrote:so then nobody who followed transformers from the beginning in 1984 that collect the comics and toys of many generations of shows and toy lines not you or i or anyone else can call them selves a true transformers fan? then many of us are pretty damn close then
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Aw, you don't exist, man. You're just make-believe.Counterpunch wrote:I'm a True Fan. I may change my user title to reflect that fact...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Aw, you don't exist, man. You're just make-believe.Counterpunch wrote:I'm a True Fan. I may change my user title to reflect that fact...
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