Scatman Jazz wrote:I just see no reason to continue making any more of these movies.
I do. Every time I look at my collection or look in the mirror. Bay or no Bay, there's so much more potential for maybe a dozen movies. And I would go see them all.
Scatman Jazz wrote:I just see no reason to continue making any more of these movies.
Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.
>Implying people get sent to hell for making movies
Sodan-1 wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.
>Implying people get sent to hell for making movies
Implying people get sent to hell for making BAD movies. Bay just happens to be an extra special case.
TCWJoe wrote:I love this and it is sound reasoning. I do beleive that they should do a Trilogy of 4,5, and 6. Plot it out beginning to end and punch them out back to back Lord of the RIngs style. And I got the plan man....
TF4 = Heralds of Unicron. The Space Bridge in 3, travels through time and space, actually sent the majority of Cybertron back in time and far across space, twisted the inhabitants, merged many of their sparks and created UNICRON! The modern time warp finally makes Unicron aware fo the location of the humans that caused his pain's planet (Earth, duh) and he sends his heralds to go prepare for his arrival. Part of the preparations is the gathering of dead protoforms on our planet (Unicron needs the extinguished sparks as he cannot manipulate functioning ones). Dinobots and Insecticons get introduced as having been buried on this planet for centuries, lost at the time of the Primes (their workers on the Harvester) but their Protoforms can no longer change and they have traditional gold/gray/red and black/purple/yellow coloring due to not having a lot of options on how to repair themselves from being trapped on Earth and are uncovered by mistakenly being thought of as dead. The factions are treated almost as religious factions (by emphasising the choice that they make) and many Decepticons help the Autobots as they feel the taking of Megatrons Body to be Sacrilege. The Autobots and a small band of Decepticon allies beleive they have defeated them at the end.
TF5 = Unicron Approaches. Unicrons newest (most powerful) heralds are created and dispatched, these would be Galvatron and his Sweeps (the sweeps ore not countless Scourge clones but individual characters). In answer to the power that is Galvatron and the Sweeps, Ratchet creates an exoskeleton ("Ironhide would have loved to get his hands on that"). A small ship of religious and pacifist Autobots arrive led by their Magnus (a religious title like a Bishop), Dion (one of the crew is a young, but not childish Autobot named Rodimus). Prime is heavily damaged in battle and Dion realizing that pacifism is not working merges himself with the Exoskeleton to become The Ultra Magnus. Unicron arrives at the edge of our Solar System and destroys the pacifist Autobot base on Pluto. It ends where Galvatron is damaged and the control Unicron has on him broken, Ultra Magnus is also beat up really bad, Optimus is beat down but healing, and Unicron is looming.
TF6 = The Battle of Unicron. Unicron arrives at the moon. Galvatron decides that he is again Megatron, and wants revenge against Unicron for trying to control him. Galvatron also wants revenge against the Prime and the Autobots for killing him, he splits his forces against the Autobots and Unicron and Prime has to do the same in Defense. Ultra Magnus commands the Earth bound troops fighting the Decepticons, but after a major defeat realizes he is no military leader and allows a young Rodimus to take command. Prime leads the assault on Unicron and after fighting each other to a stand still, Megatron realizes his vendetta against Unicron is priority (he can kill Prime later, but needs a home for the time being). He takes Prime to the Harvester, but attacks him from behind in an attempt to claim the Matrix (which will activate it) for himself. Just before Megatron can use the Matrix, Rodimus arrives, reveals himself to be a decendant of the Primes (theirs a shocker), battles Megs, retrieves the Matrix and Uses the Harvester to destroy Unicron (as "YOU GOT THE TOUCH..." is playing in the back ground).
I got more ideas and would be happy to contribute to the production freely, I don't want any credit, I'm a fan, I just want to see these made!
SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
Burn wrote:budmaloney wrote:Let the fans make the movie, cause obviously you are doing a mediocre job.
Yeah ... mediocre ... box office takings say otherwise mate.
And trust me. A "fan" made movie? Yeah, the masses are going to turn away from a fan wank.
I'll be blunt to you, and all those others who think they or the fans could do a better job ... you couldn't. You're blind. You're all so wrapped in what you perceive to be your ideal of the perfect movie, you don't look at the bigger picture.
You don't take into account the cost needed to make the movie, and the sort of content the movie needs to not only get a return at the box office, but to also make money. The only way for that to happen is to appeal to a broad audience.
You don't take into account the accompanying toy line and merchandise tie-ins, the marketting campaigns, the licensing deals, all of which goes into making a movie a monetary success.
I'm tired of "fans" going off about how crap the movies were and how they can do a better job, plain and simple, you can't. Deal with it.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Meantoy wrote: Prime is supposed to be peaceful almost to a point of pacifism, not the cold fueled, headhunter fetish having bot we've seen throughout the movies.
The "Head Hunter" Prime as you call it was the result of FANS, whining and complaining after the fisr movie when Prime got his ass handed to him by Megatron. Fans also wanted a more serious, dark toned story. Sorry, but this "Blood thirsty" Optimus as many have labeled him is a result of Bay and Co. trying to appeal to peoples request. "Fans" have no one to blame but themselves.
Meantoy wrote: Hate to say it, but mabey Uwe Boll (and i honestly despise the man for makeing the godawefull Bloodreign movies)would have possibly done a compairable, if not better job than Bay..
NO, no no. He can not, and never could. His record has shown that. Has Uwe Boll made a movie that has grossed over $1 Billion? Even half of that? Heck, even a 10th? NO he hasn't.
Though sometimes i wish he would make a TF movie. Then those that complain of a raped childhood would see just how much you can really take it up the ass in trems of a bad TF movie.
These movies (TF) were not bad. Especially not DOTM. They were just different than what your interpetation would have been for a live action TF movie. That does not make it a bad movie.
Meantoy wrote:If there is to be another movie, which i bet there will be..... too much money for hasbro to make off of our beloved childhood heroes, lets try Peter Jackson, or Ridley Scott hes doing a Aliens prequel lets see how it turns out and if its good get him, the movies cant get any worse....or can they? lets hope not.
I'd be cool with another director if Bay wants to call it quits. But just remember. Just cause another director takes the helm, does not mean they will produce any better of a TF movie than Bay. Every director has their own interpetation of said material and it doesn't mean its going to be any bettter than what bay and Co. have done.
Nico wrote:...
So please, I hope Gibson is wrong.
SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
IAmThePeej wrote:The amount a movie makes in a box office does NOT dictate if a movie is good or not.
Burn wrote:budmaloney wrote:Let the fans make the movie, cause obviously you are doing a mediocre job.
Yeah ... mediocre ... box office takings say otherwise mate.
And trust me. A "fan" made movie? Yeah, the masses are going to turn away from a fan wank.
I'll be blunt to you, and all those others who think they or the fans could do a better job ... you couldn't. You're blind. You're all so wrapped in what you perceive to be your ideal of the perfect movie, you don't look at the bigger picture.
You don't take into account the cost needed to make the movie, and the sort of content the movie needs to not only get a return at the box office, but to also make money. The only way for that to happen is to appeal to a broad audience.
You don't take into account the accompanying toy line and merchandise tie-ins, the marketting campaigns, the licensing deals, all of which goes into making a movie a monetary success.
I'm tired of "fans" going off about how crap the movies were and how they can do a better job, plain and simple, you can't. Deal with it.
Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.
>Implying people get sent to hell for making movies
Implying people get sent to hell for making BAD movies. Bay just happens to be an extra special case.
That has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen a Bay hater post on this site. I logged on just to tell you that. This is going straight to Photobucket so everyone can see.
Sodan-1 wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Sodan-1 wrote:I bloody well hope not. LaBeouf I'm not all that fussed about either way, but Bay's got a director's chair waiting for him in a special circle of hell.
>Implying people get sent to hell for making movies
Implying people get sent to hell for making BAD movies. Bay just happens to be an extra special case.
That has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen a Bay hater post on this site. I logged on just to tell you that. This is going straight to Photobucket so everyone can see.
TIP: If you want to show people stupid just post that photo of yourself.
Rex Prime wrote:Well if there is a new movie then i want Bay as the director(again), but no no no for shia, since some important characters died in the last movie the new one should be a flashback, set in cybertron, which means no humans, and more action and robots on the screen.
SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
Burn wrote:budmaloney wrote:Let the fans make the movie, cause obviously you are doing a mediocre job.
Yeah ... mediocre ... box office takings say otherwise mate.
And trust me. A "fan" made movie? Yeah, the masses are going to turn away from a fan wank.
I'll be blunt to you, and all those others who think they or the fans could do a better job ... you couldn't. You're blind. You're all so wrapped in what you perceive to be your ideal of the perfect movie, you don't look at the bigger picture.
You don't take into account the cost needed to make the movie, and the sort of content the movie needs to not only get a return at the box office, but to also make money. The only way for that to happen is to appeal to a broad audience.
You don't take into account the accompanying toy line and merchandise tie-ins, the marketting campaigns, the licensing deals, all of which goes into making a movie a monetary success.
I'm tired of "fans" going off about how crap the movies were and how they can do a better job, plain and simple, you can't. Deal with it.
budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
You misquoted me, now all the following posters think I actually write like that. But thank you for summarizing my points for me, Bay does suck, there is no story here, and truly characterization is absent. You nailed it.
SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
You misquoted me, now all the following posters think I actually write like that. But thank you for summarizing my points for me, Bay does suck, there is no story here, and truly characterization is absent. You nailed it.
He does not suck. Who gives a damn? I don't care. Deal with it.
budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
You misquoted me, now all the following posters think I actually write like that. But thank you for summarizing my points for me, Bay does suck, there is no story here, and truly characterization is absent. You nailed it.
He does not suck. Who gives a damn? I don't care. Deal with it.
We've been dealing with Bay since 2007! He had three movies, enough already. 2011 should end it,they shouldn't make a TF4 with Bay.
And are you sure he doesn't suck?
Robot Testicles, weak Decepticons, lunatic Optimus Prime, mute Bumblebee, Pig Ironhide, fragile Devastator, Shockwave's eye being shot out, Cybertron Destroyed. Megan Fox. dogs humping each other...
budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:budmaloney wrote:Bull crap! Bay sucks! No more TF Movies! No story! Characters haz no charikterizatin! More BS!
You misquoted me, now all the following posters think I actually write like that. But thank you for summarizing my points for me, Bay does suck, there is no story here, and truly characterization is absent. You nailed it.
He does not suck. Who gives a damn? I don't care. Deal with it.
We've been dealing with Bay since 2007! He had three movies, enough already. 2011 should end it,they shouldn't make a TF4 with Bay.
And are you sure he doesn't suck?
Robot Testicles, weak Decepticons, lunatic Optimus Prime, mute Bumblebee, Pig Ironhide, fragile Devastator, Shockwave's eye being shot out, Cybertron Destroyed. Megan Fox. dogs humping each other...
LiKwid wrote:In Tyrese Gibson's mind if there is not another Transformers movie, He'll be out of hollywood, plain and simple. If Transformers hadn't happened, he would have probably started doing straight to dvd movies..HE needs Tf4 to happen..
budmaloney wrote:There was no need for Sentinel Prime to fight Optimus, he is the autobot leader. What does this teach people and kids, just kill every one and you will be ok? If you disagree with your boss/leader, KILL THEM. If he's the Einstein of your race, maybe you should listen to the mofo. Einstein came up with the theory of relativity and many more. Do we throw that down the toilet, if he says, no I think we should do this.
budmaloney wrote:We've been played. The entire franchise has been secreted on.
We said the designs are too radical, but we grew to like them. The colors are inaccurate, so we accepted them. The characters are way of their original
Bay is only good for patriotic American films
Dotm was simply appalling, it was a mess.
Enough damage has been done, let us repair ourselves and move on this era of shame.
Plz tf fans, wake up, demand higher quality products, otherwise Tf will always be a mindless franchise designed simply to sell their toys.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
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