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Unfair Missions

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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby alldarker » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:18 pm

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Redimus GTS wrote:Yet oddly the top 10 is awash with Cons and Preds. Strange....


Total shenanigans. The Smelting Pool gave a lot of XP away that was never actually earned in battle. More 'Cons and 'Preds must have chosen this easy way out. If you were able to take all that extra XP away, you'd get a real picture. Nowadays, due to the Smelting Pool, top X lists don't mean a thing in HMW.

Me, I never took part in the Smelting Pool. I remember being surprised when my team went from being the nr. 33 team to the nr. 75 team. That means at least 40 teams benefitted from the extra Smelting Pool XP.


That's an almost entirly irelivent point, as most (possibly all) of the current top 10 were already in the top 10 before the smelting pool happened. It'd be very surprising if *anybody* who spent enough time to get to the top 10 on this game would decide after all that work that they wanted to lose their place rather than get more xp to play with.

How is it irrelevant? I just told you that I moved down 40 places when the Smelting Pool started: that means 40 teams that were worse than me suddenly got better than me (at least, in XP). Still, it's true the teams that have always been in the top 10 certainly benefitted from the weak resistance a lot of Autobot teams gave after the reset. Back then it was the other way round: my 'bots were often the ones with most XP but also the mission losers. Still, back then I much prefered winning with less XP gained and quickly fighting again than loosing and waiting an hour.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Redimus » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:02 pm

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Redimus GTS wrote:That's an almost entirly irelivent point, as most (possibly all) of the current top 10 were already in the top 10 before the smelting pool happened. It'd be very surprising if *anybody* who spent enough time to get to the top 10 on this game would decide after all that work that they wanted to lose their place rather than get more xp to play with.

How is it irrelevant? I just told you that I moved down 40 places when the Smelting Pool started: that means 40 teams that were worse than me suddenly got better than me (at least, in XP). Still, it's true the teams that have always been in the top 10 certainly benefitted from the weak resistance a lot of Autobot teams gave after the reset. Back then it was the other way round: my 'bots were often the ones with most XP but also the mission losers. Still, back then I much prefered winning with less XP gained and quickly fighting again than loosing and waiting an hour.


Becuase I was talking about the top 10. True the smelting pool has cuase some unnatural movments of teams lower down, but there wasnt a vast change in positions within the top 10, and indeed possibly the top 20.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby slip » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:14 pm

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Just putting this out there http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=118454 Please humor me by explaining how any of these bots will get better xp in the next hour that I'm in CR.
Cause I really don't see it happening. :P :roll:
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Naked Magnus » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:47 pm

slip wrote:Just putting this out there http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=118454 Please humor me by explaining how any of these bots will get better xp in the next hour that I'm in CR.
Cause I really don't see it happening. :P :roll:


A Con will benefit from being outnumbered IF that Con is at a high level relevant to his opposing Bots. For example: a Con who is maxed out at L3 takes on multiple Bots who are weak L3s, the Con will gain a lot of XP for striking the L3 Bots, but his higher upgrades will help him stay in the fight long enough to make his defeat worthwhile from an XP standpoint.

If the Con is outnumbered AND is at a relatively low level, the con gets smashed quickly, obtains very little XP, and takes a nap for an hour.

It all depends on how strong the Con is relative to his opponent Bots. If you are an L3 or L4 Con, you should be in good shape.

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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby slip » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:14 pm

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revengeofstarscream wrote:
slip wrote:Just putting this out there http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=118454 Please humor me by explaining how any of these bots will get better xp in the next hour that I'm in CR.
Cause I really don't see it happening. :P :roll:


A Con will benefit from being outnumbered IF that Con is at a high level relevant to his opposing Bots. For example: a Con who is maxed out at L3 takes on multiple Bots who are weak L3s, the Con will gain a lot of XP for striking the L3 Bots, but his higher upgrades will help him stay in the fight long enough to make his defeat worthwhile from an XP standpoint.

If the Con is outnumbered AND is at a relatively low level, the con gets smashed quickly, obtains very little XP, and takes a nap for an hour.

It all depends on how strong the Con is relative to his opponent Bots. If you are an L3 or L4 Con, you should be in good shape.

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:APPLAUSE: Wow signs of intelegent life on the boards from the bots. Actually your statments although rather accurate are some what flawed or perhaps your over looking something. Ram is quite powerful for mid level meaning 5 or more upgrades too move up. Properly configured you can haul good scores with out being on top of your level. Yes as stands the precious bar that sits a top that you bots have always covetated oh so will show yes we go in we lose but, Too a degree we cons can control how much of a win it really is.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Burn » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:36 pm

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XP does not translate to domination.

The game is inbalanced, find the right configuration however and a level 2 and even a early level 3 can dominate in a 3:1 environment.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby slip » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:33 am

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Burn wrote:XP does not translate to domination.

The game is inbalanced, find the right configuration however and a level 2 and even a early level 3 can dominate in a 3:1 environment.

Quite right http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=118561 Ram only 2 hits and still top.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby hunterz » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:52 am

Well, it wud be better if we got some racial advantages,(Every HMW charactwer gets some advantage for its affiliated race).Then we may have an even no of players in all races.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Psychout » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:54 am

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Ah, but there is only 1 race; Cybertronian.

If you mean class advantages, like warrior, engineer, medic, scout, command etc. then you may be pleasantly surprised.

Burn wrote:The game is inbalanced, find the right configuration however and a level 2 and even a early level 3 can dominate in a 3:1 environment.
Amen to that.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby fowlowl2626 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:50 am

Hey! You shouldn't have picked the life of evil. CRIME DOESN'T PAY! 8)
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Psychout » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:33 am

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Maybe not, but it's bloody good fun! :twisted:
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Bloodlust » Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:19 pm

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fowlowl2626 wrote:Hey! You shouldn't have picked the life of evil. CRIME DOESN'T PAY! 8)


Just remember, evil will trimuph because the good are stupid! :P
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:32 pm

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Actually, evil pays quite well. And has better medical benefits, including dental.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby DecepticonStinger » Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:39 am

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fowlowl2626 wrote:Hey! You shouldn't have picked the life of evil. CRIME DOESN'T PAY! 8)


Who needs a paycheck when we could just rob us our payment? 8)

Well, the problem with these overflow of Autobots is really a pain >_>'

But I refuse to make one of my little Cons an Autobot!!


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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby -Soundwave- » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:23 pm

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Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:00 pm

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Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Yeah you do. Step on to many and they gum up the works in the joints.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby -Soundwave- » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:39 am

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Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Yeah you do. Step on to many and they gum up the works in the joints.

True, but I don't feel guilty if it does happen.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby DecepticonStinger » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:37 am

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Absolute Zero wrote:
Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Yeah you do. Step on to many and they gum up the works in the joints.

True, but I don't feel guilty if it does happen.


Yeah. That's the way we Decepticons are thinking :grin:
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Bloodlust » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:53 am

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Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Pop some in your mouth, they act like chewing gum!
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby DecepticonStinger » Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:59 am

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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:16 am

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DecepticonStinger wrote:But not so tasty XD


Depends. The flavor varies from person to person.

Sustain wrote:
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Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Yeah you do. Step on to many and they gum up the works in the joints.

True, but I don't feel guilty if it does happen.


That doesn't make you evil, it just means you lack emotional attachment to small creatures. I'm sure the autobots don't care about the insects that get plastered to their grills. Or the opossums they run over. Sure, Beachcomber might. But he's no more the standard for Autobots than Needlenose is the standard for Decepticons.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby DecepticonStinger » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:33 am

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Absolute Zero wrote:
DecepticonStinger wrote:But not so tasty XD


Depends. The flavor varies from person to person.

Sustain wrote:
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Sustain wrote:Evil is much more fun if you ask me. I don't have to worry about stepping on fleshlings that go running around screaming.


Yeah you do. Step on to many and they gum up the works in the joints.

True, but I don't feel guilty if it does happen.


That doesn't make you evil, it just means you lack emotional attachment to small creatures. I'm sure the autobots don't care about the insects that get plastered to their grills. Or the opossums they run over. Sure, Beachcomber might. But he's no more the standard for Autobots than Needlenose is the standard for Decepticons.


First one I agree with ^_^ Some might taste better then others, but I would prefer Mentos XD

Secound one!

I'm not sure if they both really are good for their fractions o.O'
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:54 am

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Everyone needs a gay fashionbot. As for Beachcomber... Well, at least he wasn't Seaspray.
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby DecepticonStinger » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:08 am

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I liked Seaspray more than Beachchomper >_<
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Re: Unfair Missions

Postby -Soundwave- » Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:19 am

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DecepticonStinger wrote:Beachchomper

OMG LMAO!
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