The Energon Pub

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Oh and just one more thing.

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack
of knowledge ). Straight from Wikipedia.

I would have to disagree with that definition. If you lack the knowledge of what color underwear Im wearing, does that make you ignorant ?

Um...yes. Yes, it does. I am ignorant of the color of your underwear. And in this case, ignorance is bliss. (While I am making a joke here, it turns out this is all true. )

Rated X wrote:How informed are you about underwater basket weaving ? Probably about as informed as I am about bicep curls. So that makes us both ignoramouses according to wikipedia.

No, just ignorant in those subject areas. The difference is that some people choose to challenge that ignorance and learn something.

Oh, and 32 ounces is not a liter. Anywhere. Try Googling it. Here, I'll help you: 1 liter is 33.814 ounces. Now that nearly 2 ounces may not matter to you, but it is a difference.

(Oh, and I'm in IT, so I feel the need to point out that a kilobyte is actually 1024 bytes, powers of 2 and binary addressing and all of that; unless you are a Hard Drive Marketing person. )

We are waaaaaaaaayyyyyy off topic here. What can I say to get us back on topic... If this thing were $80 I might have been all over it. I'm still sorely tempted. Eh, who am I kidding; I'll probably cave and buy it.

Agamemnon wrote:If this thing were $80 I might have been all over it. I'm still sorely tempted. Eh, who am I kidding; I'll probably cave and buy it.

Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it. Not that it looks like a bad figure, but the things I don't like about it outweigh the significance of the things I do like about it.

Like I said before, if they or anyone else comes out with a decent mod for it so that I can have the hands positioned the way I like in relation to the elbow joints, I'll buy the figure and the mod kit. If not, I'll just wait for a better Galvatron to come along. I'm sure it won't be long with the current state of the 3rd party scene with most of them doing classics these days.

Not sure who else would tackle this guy and make him much better except for an official figure from hastak ... I'm just impressed they were able to make a figure with minimal to no kibble turn into a virtually perfect g1 cannon. After seeing how it transforms the wrist thing doesn't bother me too much. I understand it. As long as he can aim his arm cannon like his normal g1 self I'm good.

This guy looks GOOD. I think the only reason another 3p would take another stab at him is if mania king is plagued with horrid quality control issues, but I have a hunch that will not be the case.

Looking at the review , I'm excited the cannon is detachable so a clear orange barrel upgrade kit can easily be made.

Yeah the price is high, but for me this might be the last Galvatron I buy, since I decided not to get a MP galvatron. That is of course if hastak makes a voyager better than this.

I love the box of this thing. I want that box
Hm... maybe I can grab a Henkei Galvatron for cheap when this comes out =X
hehe

xyl360 wrote:Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it.

For $3, I'd totally jump in.

megatronus wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it.

For $3, I'd totally jump in.

Really? $3 is kinda pricey

warzon3 wrote: since I decided not to get a MP galvatron.

Arent't you acting a bit prematurely? No release date,no info,no pics,no price.

The MP's are the top notch perfection versions. I'd rather get a MP TF than a inferior full of short cuts regular Release HasTak TF toys.

warzon3 wrote: since I decided not to get a MP galvatron.

Acting a bit prematurely? No release date,no info,no pics,no price.

The MP's are the top notch perfection versions. I'd rather get a HasTak MP TF instead of a inferior full of short cuts regular Release HasTak TF toy.

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

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yeah, X, I often try really hard not to insult you
Like I said, a lot of your comments do really get under my skin, because as a whole I find the people on this board pretty respectful of others, their circumstances and viewpoints, but that doesn't come across from you all that often.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me and answer some of my criticisms. I'm glad you didn't feel I was attacking you too much because I really would rather come on here and discuss Transformers toys, or in this particular case 3rd party equivalents thereof. Sometimes I like to moan about the way things are (or how they're not how I'd like them to be) but I think most humans are guilty of that somewhere.
It's clear from your positions on some topics that you don't intentionally set out just to go against the majority and cause arguments, but I hope you're able to take something from the things I and others have said to maybe try and make all our interactions on these forums more palatable.

Now, onto the rest of the stuff about this toy:

xyl360 wrote: non wrote:If this thing were $80 I might have been all over it. I'm still sorely tempted. Eh, who am I kidding; I'll probably cave and buy it.


Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it. Not that it looks like a bad figure, but the things I don't like about it outweigh the significance of the things I do like about it.

I'd have quite a few for $3, and even $80 would certainly have me jumping on board, I think. I already have Henkei Megatron with his dodgy wrist/hand positions in some poses, and can live with it, and I might be able to set up something with lighting that makes him look more like a blue-purple than a red-purple.

If I was to get this guy (and a couple of really gushing reviews or a good discount could still sway me) I doubt he'll be the last Galvatron I get. As a longtime Marvel UK reader as well as a huge fan of the movie and season 3 I'll probably get a few more Galvatrons before I'm done collecting.

Arctorro wrote:

megatronus wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it.

For $3, I'd totally jump in.

Really? $3 is kinda pricey

You rascal, you.

megatronus wrote:

Arctorro wrote:

megatronus wrote:

xyl360 wrote:Hehe, it could be $3 and I still wouldn't buy it.

For $3, I'd totally jump in.

Really? $3 is kinda pricey

You rascal, you.

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Oh and just one more thing.

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack
of knowledge ). Straight from Wikipedia.

I would have to disagree with that definition. If you lack the knowledge of what color underwear Im wearing, does that make you ignorant ?

Um...yes. Yes, it does. I am ignorant of the color of your underwear. And in this case, ignorance is bliss. (While I am making a joke here, it turns out this is all true. )

Rated X wrote:How informed are you about underwater basket weaving ? Probably about as informed as I am about bicep curls. So that makes us both ignoramouses according to wikipedia.

No, just ignorant in those subject areas. The difference is that some people choose to challenge that ignorance and learn something.

Oh, and 32 ounces is not a liter. Anywhere. Try Googling it. Here, I'll help you: 1 liter is 33.814 ounces. Now that nearly 2 ounces may not matter to you, but it is a difference.

(Oh, and I'm in IT, so I feel the need to point out that a kilobyte is actually 1024 bytes, powers of 2 and binary addressing and all of that; unless you are a Hard Drive Marketing person. )

We are waaaaaaaaayyyyyy off topic here. What can I say to get us back on topic... If this thing were $80 I might have been all over it. I'm still sorely tempted. Eh, who am I kidding; I'll probably cave and buy it.

I cant argue with you about the metric system because anything math related is not my area of expertise. But I will note that a quart is pretty damn close to a liter. It's like an ounce and a half more. And the bottles aren't filled to the top anyways so what you actually get varies.



On the term "ignorant" all I can tell you is there are some places it's better not to use the dictionary definition because it is perceived as an insulting word. I wouldn't recommend calling a stranger in a bar "ignorant" during a conversation. It's better to just say "unaware" and avoid a possible confrontation. Your choice.

Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Oh and just one more thing.

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack
of knowledge ). Straight from Wikipedia.

I would have to disagree with that definition. If you lack the knowledge of what color underwear Im wearing, does that make you ignorant ?

Um...yes. Yes, it does. I am ignorant of the color of your underwear. And in this case, ignorance is bliss. (While I am making a joke here, it turns out this is all true. )

Rated X wrote:How informed are you about underwater basket weaving ? Probably about as informed as I am about bicep curls. So that makes us both ignoramouses according to wikipedia.

No, just ignorant in those subject areas. The difference is that some people choose to challenge that ignorance and learn something.

Oh, and 32 ounces is not a liter. Anywhere. Try Googling it. Here, I'll help you: 1 liter is 33.814 ounces. Now that nearly 2 ounces may not matter to you, but it is a difference.

(Oh, and I'm in IT, so I feel the need to point out that a kilobyte is actually 1024 bytes, powers of 2 and binary addressing and all of that; unless you are a Hard Drive Marketing person. )

We are waaaaaaaaayyyyyy off topic here. What can I say to get us back on topic... If this thing were $80 I might have been all over it. I'm still sorely tempted. Eh, who am I kidding; I'll probably cave and buy it.

I cant argue with you about the metric system because anything math related is not my area of expertise. But I will note that a quart is pretty damn close to a liter. It's like an ounce and a half more. And the bottles aren't filled to the top anyways so what you actually get varies.

Please read that bolded part in my response above again.

Rated X wrote:On the term "ignorant" all I can tell you is there are some places it's better not to use the dictionary definition because it is perceived as an insulting word. I wouldn't recommend calling a stranger in a bar "ignorant" during a conversation. It's better to just say "unaware" and avoid a possible confrontation. Your choice.

Being called ignorant can be a negative, and maybe it should be, but it need not be. I certainly don't like to be called ignorant most of the time. But rather than be insulted by it, I look at why I am ignorant and try to solve that by learning about the subject.

This is externalizing the issue. Is it other people's fault that I am ignorant? (It might be their fault for calling me that, but usually I see people around here use different terminology than "ignorant" even though it means the same thing.) The best way to fight being called ignorant is to become educated about the area that I am ignorant in.

On the other hand, we can still be happy in our ignorance. Like, please do not tell me what color underwear you are wearing. I will be happy to be ignorant of that.

And how about Mania King? Every time I get on this thread (for whatever the reason) I almost jump right on BBTS and preorder it. [/LameAttemptAtBringingTheConversationBackOnTopic]

(It's tough, because I don't want to make like I'm depriving someone the chance to respond, but I don't want to run afoul of the mods either. These sorts of issues should be addressed so that there is a more positive experience for everyone going forward. At least that's my opinion...)

I get exactly what you’re saying about the word ignorant. But as in many cases, the textbook definition and how it’s perceived in everyday use are worlds apart. I would like to think that if I never had a reason to know something, that I would be considered a “novice” rather than “ignorant”. It’s common to call someone a “rookie” or “green” rather than provoke an argument by using the word ignorant. I didn’t write the dictionary, but I didn’t define human nature either. Sometimes the two don’t mesh that well.

I wouldn’t worry too much about the mods. Half of them resigned. I wouldn’t work for free either, so I don’t blame them. As long as we respect each other and don’t go too far off topic we should be fine.

Back to Galvatron, here are some reviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1z6xH4Gdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d8Ax8oF7M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxK59F_Oms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxPVF1u_47s

Rated X wrote:Back to Galvatron, here are some reviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1z6xH4Gdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d8Ax8oF7M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxK59F_Oms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxPVF1u_47s

Thanks for the review links. The third one down was what I was waiting for:



Around the eight minute mark we get a really good, close look at the arm transformation. It would have been difficult to put in a wrist swivel. A forearm swivel just below the elbow may have been possible, but that part is tight too. Given the use of pins in the location, and the thin plastic, I would be wary of doing a mod to get the movement I am looking for. I think I would end up getting this with the understanding it will have a permanent bicep curl unless someone completely replaces the arm.

All in all, though, I'm about 60-70% sold. Gaaaahhhhh!

[Edit] And at around the 10 minute mark, when he is transforming the head portion, there are some troubling stress marks on one of the hinges. Hrm...

It is a good looking figure, with a pretty clever transformation. It just doesn't excite me like I need it to for that price. Probably doesn't help that this is more in-line with G1 Galvatron than IDW's.


I really like IDW Galvatron.

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:Back to Galvatron, here are some reviews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1z6xH4Gdc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d8Ax8oF7M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkxK59F_Oms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxPVF1u_47s

Thanks for the review links. The third one down was what I was waiting for:



Around the eight minute mark we get a really good, close look at the arm transformation. It would have been difficult to put in a wrist swivel. A forearm swivel just below the elbow may have been possible, but that part is tight too. Given the use of pins in the location, and the thin plastic, I would be wary of doing a mod to get the movement I am looking for. I think I would end up getting this with the understanding it will have a permanent bicep curl unless someone completely replaces the arm.

All in all, though, I'm about 60-70% sold. Gaaaahhhhh!

[Edit] And at around the 10 minute mark, when he is transforming the head portion, there are some troubling stress marks on one of the hinges. Hrm...

Everytime a reviewer gets stress marks on an advance sample, I take it with a grain of salt. These guys are like martyrs. They take one for the team trying to figure out these complex transformations. They often break their figures and tell us what not to do in these early reviews. Then again, they get the figures for free in exchange for promting them online to convince skeptics. Hopefully watching a few more reviews From other people will teach us the safest way to transform him.

Maniaking is so close to being good enough for me to buy but i don't really like the lower legs.

I also absolutely need a translucent glittery orange canon on this fig. I HAVE to have that. That solid barrel just doesn't do it for me at all. It should also light up.

A $120 Galvatron should have a light up cannon.

I do like the transformation though. I'm really on the fence with this guy.

Agamemnon wrote:Around the eight minute mark we get a really good, close look at the arm transformation. It would have been difficult to put in a wrist swivel. A forearm swivel just below the elbow may have been possible, but that part is tight too. Given the use of pins in the location, and the thin plastic, I would be wary of doing a mod to get the movement I am looking for. I think I would end up getting this with the understanding it will have a permanent bicep curl unless someone completely replaces the arm.

All in all, though, I'm about 60-70% sold. Gaaaahhhhh!

[Edit] And at around the 10 minute mark, when he is transforming the head portion, there are some troubling stress marks on one of the hinges. Hrm...

One of the reasons I felt comfortable with UT's Sharkies was that that transformation was so simple, it would be hard to break them. I have fairly nimble fingers, and am good at transforming with care, but things like this from a company like UT scare me.

MGrotusque wrote:I also absolutely need a translucent glittery orange canon on this fig. I HAVE to have that. That solid barrel just doesn't do it for me at all. It should also light up.

A $120 Galvatron should have a light up cannon.

Given the way that it just pegs into his arm, I'm certain someone (paging Dr Wu ) will do a replacement cannon that's more G1 for this thing. I agree that it should be mostly translucent orange but I'm not opposed to a different design from the G1 figure, I just think these guys took it a bit too far making the orange bits little more than highlights/details rather than the bulk of the cannon.

As for the arms, I don't know if it's possible, but if there's room to simply put some alternate hands/wrists over his existing ones that have wrist swivels (similar to how Maketoys RTS Prime add-on kits work or FP's Classics Prime/Magnus kits work) then that's one possible solution, assuming it could be done without them looking too huge or too long/out of proportion with the rest of his body. I'm still going to wait and see though because if we can get 3 Predakings, then I guarantee we can get at least 2 Galvatrons.

ouch...

Peaugh's explanation.

The lower legs pull out and rotate up to wrap around the upper legs during transformation. The post that they pull out on is held in by a screw inside the knee part. In this case it looks like when the screw was put in it caused the post to swell just a tiny bit, so when extended instead of rotating it got wedged in place and sheared off. It didn't have any more resistance than the one on the other leg that worked just fine, which means it's either incredibly easy to shear or there was already some stress on that part. Unfortunately I can't tell at this point. I will say that the other leg and the rest of the figure have proved themselves to be quite sturdy with handling, so I suspect this part may have already been failing to begin with.

Again, this seems more like a QC issue on a test shot and may not present an issue on the release version, but still, be careful with the legs. It's already a frustrating transformation as it is.

I'm attempting a fix so I can try to review it, but it may be a bust.

and

Hooray! Got this guy fixed and transformable again, so I should have a video up Sunday night. Also found the real culprit. The knee hinge was assembled backward, so every time it had been transformed previous the post was stressing when the cannon was snapped together, since there wasn't enough clearance to allow it to fold fully into place. Too much of that and a tight rotation and bam, failure. I'll point out the exact issue in my video, but it was a minor assembly error that shouldn't affect production units.

Guess it's a non-issue? still scary looking...

Another stolen Jizai design?

Originally Posted by Peaugh View Post


Also, the transformation is almost EXACTLY like this:

http://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/160342055.html

mooncake623 wrote:

ouch...

Well he took one for the team. Now we know what to be careful with. Thanks Peaugh.

mooncake623 wrote:Another stolen Jizai design?

Originally Posted by Peaugh View Post


Also, the transformation is almost EXACTLY like this:

http://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/article/160342055.html

If they had kept it exactly like that the arms may not have needed to be made the way they were and the figure would be perfect.