The Energon Pub

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Maybe they designed it this way on purpose so they could release a "fix" later. Obviously there are people willing to pay for it. Why demand a better product when you can just pay to fix it?

No offense but I would call that a conspiracy theory. A lot of people say the same thing about the TFC Rage of Hercules and Wings of Uranus sets. But in reality, we have no proof whether they did it to make money, or they just listened to the fans. I wasn’t suggesting UT design an upgrade. I was suggesting someone like Dr. Wu, Zenith Forge, SXS, or Iron Factory might want to capitalize on the opportunity.

I'm not really saying it is that way, just that there are dishonest people out there. Eventually it will happen.

Since Blackbird was designed to work with the waistplate And since they releases prototype pics of other jets with the Wings missiles, there's every reason to think they had Wings in mind from the start.

But, no, I don't see UT purposefully sabotaging themselves regarding the arms. It just doesn't make sense.

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

I think it's because you can't put yourself in anyone else's shoes. Your life is about you and what you want and you're not capable of empathizing with anyone who's view isn't yours.

njb902 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

I think it's because you can't put yourself in anyone else's shoes. Your life is about you and what you want and you're not capable of empathizing with anyone who's view isn't yours.

To a certain extent I agree with you. But it’s hard to walk in somebody else’s shoes when they wear a different shoe size every day. If someone doesn’t like the aesthetic of a figure, that’s fine. If someone can’t afford a figure, that’s fine. But don’t be on one thread complaining about 30 bucks, and then come out on another thread bragging about how you “pre-ordered on the spot” a really expensive figure. Im not saying it's you Im talking about, but so many people on here do that. And theyre quick to bring up what they find annoying about me, so I do the same with them. It's never personal unless they start name calling.

I don't know what it was but when i scrolled down to this picture i was totally put off this figure it's just not right , maybe it was those pictures of galvatron and cyclonus kissing i don't know..

daimchoc wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:I'd rather buy a Subpar place holder. Instead of waiting more years for a better version to come out.

I've been at this for years and I started with this train of thought too. Every time I looked at that subpar placeholder I could not help but think "I paid how much for this guy?" It's your dollars of course, but if this is your first placeholder figure, that's what you should mentally prepare yourself for.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:3rd party TF toys have a high turn over rate on ebay. I'm sure I will get my $115 back for mania king when it's time to sell him. I'm not losing any money here.

You're not the only collector thinking this. Once a better Galvatron comes out, whether it's from HasTak or another 3rd Party, then eBay's going to be flooded with these causing the value to plummet. Maybe you'll make your money back, but there's a good chance you won't either. Case and Point: FansProject's Defender.

Just my thought on the subject; take 'em or leave 'em

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Maybe they designed it this way on purpose so they could release a "fix" later. Obviously there are people willing to pay for it. Why demand a better product when you can just pay to fix it?

No offense but I would call that a conspiracy theory. A lot of people say the same thing about the TFC Rage of Hercules and Wings of Uranus sets. But in reality, we have no proof whether they did it to make money, or they just listened to the fans. I wasn’t suggesting UT design an upgrade. I was suggesting someone like Dr. Wu, Zenith Forge, SXS, or Iron Factory might want to capitalize on the opportunity.

If you're so gung-ho about an upgrade by a different company, why not just hope that another company does a better Galvatron from scratch? There are enough naysayers here itching for a better figure to warrant a teaser.

megatronus wrote:

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Maybe they designed it this way on purpose so they could release a "fix" later. Obviously there are people willing to pay for it. Why demand a better product when you can just pay to fix it?

No offense but I would call that a conspiracy theory. A lot of people say the same thing about the TFC Rage of Hercules and Wings of Uranus sets. But in reality, we have no proof whether they did it to make money, or they just listened to the fans. I wasn’t suggesting UT design an upgrade. I was suggesting someone like Dr. Wu, Zenith Forge, SXS, or Iron Factory might want to capitalize on the opportunity.

If you're so gung-ho about an upgrade by a different company, why not just hope that another company does a better Galvatron from scratch? There are enough naysayers here itching for a better figure to warrant a teaser.

Its just a suggestion. I really could see it happening. The issues people are complaining about appear to be simple fixes that dont warrant waiting for a new figure that may never be made.

Rated X wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Rated X wrote:

njb902 wrote:Maybe they designed it this way on purpose so they could release a "fix" later. Obviously there are people willing to pay for it. Why demand a better product when you can just pay to fix it?

No offense but I would call that a conspiracy theory. A lot of people say the same thing about the TFC Rage of Hercules and Wings of Uranus sets. But in reality, we have no proof whether they did it to make money, or they just listened to the fans. I wasn’t suggesting UT design an upgrade. I was suggesting someone like Dr. Wu, Zenith Forge, SXS, or Iron Factory might want to capitalize on the opportunity.

If you're so gung-ho about an upgrade by a different company, why not just hope that another company does a better Galvatron from scratch? There are enough naysayers here itching for a better figure to warrant a teaser.

Its just a suggestion. I really could see it happening. The issues people are complaining about appear to be simple fixes that dont warrant waiting for a new figure that may never be made.

Someone else will definitely do another Galvatron. He's one of the primary G1 characters and one that there's a massive demand for. If we can get 2 3rd party Blasters when there's already a Device Label version and a Generations (Cybertronian) version and 3 third party Jetfires when there's already an awesome Classics version, we'll definitely see more Galvatrons.

I don't care about the cost, but I'm not going to buy a figure that I know has an issue that bugs me enough to warrant a fix when there's no guarantee that a fix is forthcoming. It's one thing if they or anyone else started advertising an add-on/mod kit for this to correct the problem, but right now all I have to go on are your theories that someone's going to do it or that they even easily could (MANY collectors aren't comfortable with taking apart anything where pins are involved, although I'm not one of them).

If someone comes up with a fix for it/add-on kit (especially with a new head and better arm cannon), then sure, I'll probably bite. And yes, if the price is jacked up because the demand for the figure skyrockets (even though I honestly believe it's going to drop until there is such an add-on set, and if the add-on set comes soon enough, the price for the figure will just remain the same just due to the number of detractors because of the issues it has), then I'll go ahead and pay the bloated price for the figure plus the kit if I like the look of the final modified version enough.

But that's a hell of a lot of 'ifs', and it's not about the money. I've dropped way more $ on far less significant characters/figures. It's never about price to me as long as I can afford it. I can afford this, but the real issue is that in this figure's current state, I don't want it.

Rated X wrote:To a certain extent I agree with you. But it’s hard to walk in somebody else’s shoes when they wear a different shoe size every day. If someone doesn’t like the aesthetic of a figure, that’s fine. If someone can’t afford a figure, that’s fine. But don’t be on one thread complaining about 30 bucks, and then come out on another thread bragging about how you “pre-ordered on the spot” a really expensive figure. Im not saying it's you Im talking about, but so many people on here do that. And theyre quick to bring up what they find annoying about me, so I do the same with them. It's never personal unless they start name calling.

You just can't let this Impossible Toys thing go, can you?

It's not that people wear different size shoes everyday, it's just that you (or I, or anyone else for that matter) don't understand others' internal methods of evaluating whether something is worth it to them or not. Most seem to think IT puts out crap product, so $30 may just be higher than what many of us value those figures at.

Same with this Galvatron. Given the flaws many are uncomfortable with, our internal valuations are much lower than the $115 asking price.

Or maybe it's this:

xyl360 wrote:It's never about price to me as long as I can afford it. I can afford this, but the real issue is that in this figure's current state, I don't want it.

All im saying is it seems very possible for someone to do a fix because of all the fandom complaints. Designers have to have the figure in hand before they can design something. We waited how many years to get hegemon after the nerf gun ? I believe 5 years. I dont think any other 3rd party is more in a hurry to do a better galvatron then they were to do a better megatron. Alot of people hate hegemon and two years later who has tried to top him ? Nobody. And orion was 7 years apart from classics prime. That was a pretty long time for an update of a voyager sized prime. Thats too much waiting for me. I would rather just drop the 115 bucks.

Rated X wrote:All im saying is it seems very possible for someone to do a fix because of all the fandom complaints. Designers have to have the figure in hand before they can design something. We waited how many years to get hegemon after the nerf gun ? I believe 5 years. I dont think any other 3rd party is more in a hurry to do a better galvatron then they were to do a better megatron. Alot of people hate hegemon and two years later who has tried to top him ? Nobody. And orion was 7 years apart from classics prime. That was a pretty long time for an update of a voyager sized prime. Thats too much waiting for me. I would rather just drop the 115 bucks.

That's fine, and I wouldn't want to try to talk you out of it, if you are happy with the decision and it is well justified.

But why are you trying to sell this thing to those of us that are not interested, for whatever our justification? Why do you have trouble understanding how some value this thing differently than you? Why does it have to be money or aesthetics? Why can't each of us justify it how we want, even if we sometimes sound hypocritical?

(For the record, I don't think I've seen much hypocrisy. I'll point out again the irony of the position switch in another thread. I'm trying to remember the figure, but I recall the positions being almost exactly opposite with myself and others arguing for a figure and X against. Was it Caelus?)

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

X I'm honestly never sure if you're trolling intentionally or not, because it's often inconceivable that a person could be so completely self-absorbed and ignorant of the world at large or the fact that other people in the world might have views that differ even slightly from yours. You immediately dismiss the idea that people would think differently, or have different life experiences from yours, and openly and blatantly look down upon people who are different in some way.

Whether intentionally or not you denigrate concepts and actions that you claim to be unfamiliar with in ways that make you appear almost completely isolated from the average reality that most of the other posters on this forum seem to live in. Your recent revelations that you have worked lower-paying jobs amazed me as your general tone suggests immaturity and the likelihood of being far too young to even work a proper job. I'm amazed you're not a young teen from an absurdly rich family. The "affluenza" comment in the other thread wasn't entirely unwarranted.

It's not just the seeming unfamiliarity with the concept of monetary worth, but ability to understand conversational English that have given me this impression. If English isn't your first language and you're using a web-translate program or something, then I apologize, but it's definitely not helping get you across as a grown-up. Assuming English is your first language, then things like misunderstanding of people's problems with "bicep curl arms" or the metric system do sometimes come across almost as a parody of an ignorant angry child, so you can understand if people sometimes have difficulty warming to you.

You do sometimes make interesting points, but even then, it usually comes at a cost of offence because of the way you make these points. Most people on here are very respectful, because at the end of the day, we all share a similar passion. There are plenty of other people on here who make posts I don't agree with. Hell, there've been more than a couple who've made posts that have angered me in some way. None do it in such consistent and seemingly gleeful way.

One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

Regarding this specific point, this Galvatron figure is quite good. Most of us at least like a lot of things about it. It's a large size and a good (if not great, IMO) version of a major character. The $30 Minibots are goddam terrible little Legends-sized bots that represent very niche characters, very badly. I could buy 5 of them for the price of this Galvatron but am very sure I wouldn't enjoy them half as much.

I've complained about this figure being a little overpriced too, and you've agreed that were it a lesser character (like Blaster) it'd be less expensive. I feel the "Galvatron hype" isn't worth paying for when it's not got all the points I'm looking for in a really nice Galvatron. Something like Hexatron, where the size, articulation, colours, engineering and transformations all worked for me was a definite pre-order because I felt it was worth it. Likewise, the upcoming Legends Swerve is a definite buy because it has the look, the colours, decent articulation and a decent alt mode. If a figure ticks all the boxes in what I'm looking for, then I want it. If it is too expensive, I'll either see about saving up for it, or I'll accept that I can't have it. If it doesn't tick all the boxes, then I have to weigh up how much it costs vs how much I want it. In this particular case, I don't want Maniaking enough to warrant the cost.

I don't know about all of you, but I think we've sufficiently run in circles for this thread. X, I love you for the time you compel me to argue on threads, but I think it's time to move on.

Questions:

(1) Release date is early 2014 - has anyone heard of a more precise timeline?

(2) Who do you think will post the first review? Lots of the 3rd Parties have been defaulting to peaugh as of late.

video review


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1z6xH4Gdc

mooncake623 wrote:video review


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg1z6xH4Gdc

Thanks!

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

You know, there's a huge difference between paying 30 dollars for a Legends (legion) Class sized figure of characters that have been done to death made of crappy plastic, compared to an Ultra Class sized figure of a character that's hardly been done lately with ten times more detail and more complexity and much higher quality.

Apples aren't the same as oranges, well maybe they are for you but that's still not reality.

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

X I'm honestly never sure if you're trolling intentionally or not, because it's often inconceivable that a person could be so completely self-absorbed and ignorant of the world at large or the fact that other people in the world might have views that differ even slightly from yours. You immediately dismiss the idea that people would think differently, or have different life experiences from yours, and openly and blatantly look down upon people who are different in some way.

Whether intentionally or not you denigrate concepts and actions that you claim to be unfamiliar with in ways that make you appear almost completely isolated from the average reality that most of the other posters on this forum seem to live in. Your recent revelations that you have worked lower-paying jobs amazed me as your general tone suggests immaturity and the likelihood of being far too young to even work a proper job. I'm amazed you're not a young teen from an absurdly rich family. The "affluenza" comment in the other thread wasn't entirely unwarranted.

It's not just the seeming unfamiliarity with the concept of monetary worth, but ability to understand conversational English that have given me this impression. If English isn't your first language and you're using a web-translate program or something, then I apologize, but it's definitely not helping get you across as a grown-up. Assuming English is your first language, then things like misunderstanding of people's problems with "bicep curl arms" or the metric system do sometimes come across almost as a parody of an ignorant angry child, so you can understand if people sometimes have difficulty warming to you.

You do sometimes make interesting points, but even then, it usually comes at a cost of offence because of the way you make these points. Most people on here are very respectful, because at the end of the day, we all share a similar passion. There are plenty of other people on here who make posts I don't agree with. Hell, there've been more than a couple who've made posts that have angered me in some way. None do it in such consistent and seemingly gleeful way.

One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

Regarding this specific point, this Galvatron figure is quite good. Most of us at least like a lot of things about it. It's a large size and a good (if not great, IMO) version of a major character. The $30 Minibots are goddam terrible little Legends-sized bots that represent very niche characters, very badly. I could buy 5 of them for the price of this Galvatron but am very sure I wouldn't enjoy them half as much.

I've complained about this figure being a little overpriced too, and you've agreed that were it a lesser character (like Blaster) it'd be less expensive. I feel the "Galvatron hype" isn't worth paying for when it's not got all the points I'm looking for in a really nice Galvatron. Something like Hexatron, where the size, articulation, colours, engineering and transformations all worked for me was a definite pre-order because I felt it was worth it. Likewise, the upcoming Legends Swerve is a definite buy because it has the look, the colours, decent articulation and a decent alt mode. If a figure ticks all the boxes in what I'm looking for, then I want it. If it is too expensive, I'll either see about saving up for it, or I'll accept that I can't have it. If it doesn't tick all the boxes, then I have to weigh up how much it costs vs how much I want it. In this particular case, I don't want Maniaking enough to warrant the cost.

I’ll take a moment to indulge you Craggy…

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not some wealthy teenager. I’m 37 and have been on my own since 27. I made a generalization about TF collectors that complain about prices because they probably work in a coffee shop. I said that because the same people on here who complain over $20-30 all seem to own Genesis, Hexatron, Giant, or other really expensive figures. Like I said, I worked minimum wage throughout the 1990’s. At the time my hobby was car shows and I spent over $10,000 customizing a low rider all from a McDonalds salary. I never once complained about the prices of the customizations I had done to my ride. It was my hobby and I had to have it. Complaining about exaggerated prices wasn’t going to get those prices changed. If I wanted it, I sucked it up and paid the price. If I didn’t want it, I never used the price as an excuse to justify my lack of interest. I always had a real reason that involved my personal tastes.

English is my only language as I was born in raised in Miami, Florida. However I’m not familiar with some of the terms used by people from other regions of the US or other countries. I’m not sure why anybody would expect me to know a measurement system that isn’t used in my own country, regardless of how many other countries in the world know it. I don’t have the college background that most TF fans are often stereotyped as having. I’m more of a street knowledge type of guy. Anything beyond that, I learn through the internet or TV if it interests me. That’s the bottom line. It’s annoying when people perceive lack of knowledge as “ignorance”.

For a month all of you guys had me stumped on what the hell was meant by a “bicep curl”. When I read the term bicep curl, I think of a bodybuilder lifting dumbbells to build his arm muscles. One common exercise is called doing “curls” and it’s done to build muscles in your biceps. Obviously that has nothing to do with action figure articulation, so of course I was stumped. It wasn’t until a couple days ago that someone posted a review of a Bulkhead figure with the same issue to help me understand. They should have just said “the elbow joints bend side to side but not forward and backwards”. Instead they try to be funny by using the term “bicep curl” to describe the issue. Not everyone is going to get the joke. It has nothing to do with not understanding English. Some people won’t understand the analogy because they are thinking of something totally different. I didn’t see too many people at Botcon that look like they are into working out. Could this be the reason why I was the only one thinking bodybuilding instead of anatomy when I read the term “bicep curl”? Maybe, who knows? But that would be another offensive Rated X generalization, wouldn’t it?

By the length and thought put into your comment, I realize you are not trying to insult me in any way. You’re just speaking your mind like I do. So that’s why I took the time to address your post and explain some of my recent comments on this thread. That's how you keep it real.

Lol you think the metric system isn't used in the US? Ever bought a 2 liter? On your electric bill how many kilowatts do you use a month. How many gigabytes is the hard drive on your computer? How many megabytes of ram? Ever seen a 9mm handgun?

Edit: my auto correct tried to add a whole sentence.

Dead Metal wrote:

Rated X wrote:

craggy wrote:

Rated X wrote:If there’s one thing we learned from the Blitzwing shoulder fixes and Grimlock chest fillers, it that there’s a huge 3rd party market for picky collectors who aren’t satisfied with a highly anticipated figure. It’s only a matter of time before someone fixes the dreaded bicep curl. It might come in the form of an upgrade kit along with a better head (shorter prongs) and a translucent orange cannon barrel. But the question is if you’re not willing to shell out $115 now for Galvatron, are you willing to pay $150 in aftermarket prices plus the upgrade kit when it comes out ? Not a winning proposition for those of you who are so concerned about $20-30 bucks. I’m not trying to antagonize anyone here, I’m just keeping it real.

...and yet.

What I call "keeping it real" people often consider trolling on here. I just find it funny how some people are on here about the subject of money. One day they complain about a figure being $30 overpriced. The next day they’re ready to drop $150 or more on a figure they gotta have. I find it very peculiar how people flip flop back and forth on how much they’re willing to spend to enjoy this hobby.

You know, there's a huge difference between paying 30 dollars for a Legends (legion) Class sized figure of characters that have been done to death made of crappy plastic, compared to an Ultra Class sized figure of a character that's hardly been done lately with ten times more detail and more complexity and much higher quality.

Apples aren't the same as oranges, well maybe they are for you but that's still not reality.

Actually I was referring to the people who said Mania King was overpriced when I brought up the complaining about $20-30. Some had said earlier that it should be the same price as the UT Blaster around $80. That would be nice but the Galvy hype drove up the price of the figure. Im pretty hyped up myself and can’t wait to get my hands on it regardless of the price or the fandoms bicep complaint.

The IT legends figures thread is another story. Everyone keeps saying, the price, the price, the price. Nobody seems to have anything good or bad to say about the aesthetic of the figure. They just keep on beating the price horse to death with a giant hammer. I happen to like obscure characters and am willing to spend the 30 bucks, even if they are a bit small. Hell I bought Igear G2 Seaspray and Pipes for 30 bucks each and love them. I wish they were bigger, but I still love them.

njb902 wrote:Lol you think the metric system isn't used in the US? Ever bought a 2 liter? On your electric bill how many kilowatts do you use a month. How many gigabytes is the hard drive on your computer? How many megabytes of ram? Ever seen a 9mm handgun?

Edit: my auto correct tried to add a whole sentence.

Everything in the metric system has a use somewhere in the designers world, but that doesn’t mean it necessarily affects my life as a consumer. In my travels to the Philippines, a 32 ounce bottle of beer is labeled as a liter. Here we call it a quart.

Oh and just one more thing.

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack
of knowledge ). Straight from Wikipedia.

njb902 wrote:Oh and just one more thing.

Ignorance is a state of being uninformed (lack
of knowledge ). Straight from Wikipedia.

I would have to disagree with that definition. If you lack the knowledge of what color underwear Im wearing, does that make you ignorant ? How informed are you about underwater basket weaving ? Probably about as informed as I am about bicep curls. So that makes us both ignoramouses according to wikipedia.