The Energon Pub

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:03 am

megatronus wrote:I still do not understand your fixation on leader/G1-toy scale.

I don't want downsized versions of bigger G-1 TF toys just so they can fit into Classics Generations scale.

I have no desire to ever buy a deluxe or voyager sized 3rd party shockwave,sixshot,overlord.

I don't buy all my newer Hasbro & 3rd party TF toys just to fit them into classics generations toy scale.

Hexatron,Quakewave & BTS Nova lord are in perfect scale. due to them all fitting in with other bigger leader sized toys from AEC,MP & the Movie-verse.

3rd party TF toys are doing two TF toy line themes,Masterpiece & Classics.

This is comming from someone who loves the bigger TF toys. I think the TFC & Warbotron combiners toy scale is oversized & wrong. because the toys in all modes don't fit in with any TF toy scales from AEC,TFA,TFP,Movie verse,classics,generations & MP.

I don't think HasTak will ever create voyagers or ultra sized individual combiner team members for the MP TF toy lines. because having each team lmember be voyager & ultra sizes means buyers will have to pay more to buy these toys. It also means it's harder to convince stores to stock these toys.

If HasTak ever creates MP TF toys for the Scramble City combiners. Each limb bot team member will be deluxe size. while the team leaders are voyager size. this will make the toys more affordable for buyers. this will make it easier for stores to want to stock these items. FP & MT are doing the most correct combiners toys scale that HasTak would use if they did MP TF combiners.

by **Rated X** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:07 am

This guy just loves the toy scale over cartoon or comic scale. But he seems to forget the original G1 toys were not homages. They were strictly for little kids. What the classics lines accomplished was cartoon accuracy older collectors can appreciate while still being marketable to todays kids. This is why few people care about G1 toy scale. We grew up with the cartoon. We didnt own every toy as kids. So why would we care about toy scale ?

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:41 am

*looks at pics of nearly finished Galvatron* Mmm...dat Galvy. *drools*

RELEASE HIM NAO.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:10 am

Rated X wrote: This guy just loves the toy scale over cartoon or comic scale.

Incorrect,I prefer newer Generations & 3rd party TF toys to match the TF size scales from Hasbro TF toys made from AEC,Movie verse,MP,TFA & TFP.

Rated X wrote:
What the classics lines accomplished was cartoon accuracy older collectors can appreciate while still being marketable to todays kids.

No,the real reason the classics generations toys are so small. Is it has no cartoon or movie tie in,it's a sub line with a small toy budget.

Hasbro's main goal was never to create a much smaller toy scale for classics generations. When the economy went sour,Hasbro took away the classics Eight inch Ultra toys & reduced the voyager toys for a few years. Had the ecomomy been high,Hasbro would have not cancelled ultra's,not reduced voyagers. Hasbro would have made leader sized toys years ago for classics generations.

It seems like the 2014 30th TF line budget might be higher,as we might get leader sized toys for 30th Jetfire & Megatron.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:26 am

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:01 am

daimchoc wrote:

Interesting that his cannon is bright orange on the box :-?

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News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:53 am

only orange on the bot mode pic. is it possible it lights up?

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:42 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
megatronus wrote: I still do not understand your fixation on leader/G1-toy scale. I think Optimus and Megatron would be best in Voyager scale - I don't want them towering over everyone else.

Megatron & Optimus Had leader sized toys in Energon,Cybertron & the movie-verse. So some want Megatron & Optimus to have mirrored leader sized toys in Classics Generations.

Ah - I see. You want parity with the Unicron Trilogy and Movie lines.

If that's the case, why not use MP-10 for this purpose? Masterpiece Optimus is essentially Leader-sized when compared to most of the Classics 'bots.

As far as a 3rd Party Galvatron and this ManiaKing, I still prefer this voyager/ultra-ish scale. There's sure to be an MP Galvatron down the line (I suspect this would be easier to engineer and rollout than MP Megatron, unfortunately) that could serve as your Leader Galvatron.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:39 am

daimchoc wrote:

That's a beautiful box. it looks like it might have a display open cover like Hexatron's box has. hopefully the black ink on the box is not poorly applied like that Quakewave box & those Botcon boxes are.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:39 am

daimchoc wrote:

That's a beautiful box. it looks like it might have a display open cover like Hexatron's box has. hopefully the black ink on the box is not poorly applied like that Quakewave box & those Botcon boxes are.

News Credits: 33 · by **Genocide G2.0** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:46 am

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:25 pm

This is available for pre-order on Kapow now, ok I admit it, I caved. This thing is looking good.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:35 am

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:33 am

...every new picture... The wait's driving me insane.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:20 am

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:29 am

Heh.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:45 pm

the colour on the box is the colour I wanted.

News Credits: 1 · by **leakin' lubricant** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:12 pm

Are they the final colours or are the bright white peices going to be painted? He looks amazing but the white plastic parts make him look a little unfinished.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Banjo-Tron wrote:This is available for pre-order on Kapow now, ok I admit it, I caved. This thing is looking good.

Do any other UK based retailers carry this other than Kapow?

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Banjo-Tron wrote:This is available for pre-order on Kapow now, ok I admit it, I caved. This thing is looking good.

Do any other UK based retailers carry this other than Kapow?

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:17 pm

What's wrong with Kapow?

Damn those final version pics looks good, I gotta admit, if I was still collecting Classics I would get this and throw my Hasbro version out the window.

Even the missing wrist articulation wouldn't deter me, this thing just looks damn perfect. The transformation looks fun too.

Seriously, UT has been pumping out some amazing stuff lately.

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:29 pm

Dead Metal wrote:What's wrong with Kapow?

Don't want to get completely off topic. All I'll say is I was a very long time shopper with Kapow, but the last 6 months have been a complete nightmare. Kapow had been my first stop for anything TF related for years, now I will no longer use them. I don't mind if an alternative seller/shop costs me abit more.

So are Kapow the only UK based seller for this then? Looks like if I buy it I'll be importing then.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:58 pm

you could try Toysngamez, they might stock it. Regarding Kapow I sort of agree that they went through a iffy patch following the web redesign but their communication and service is very good now. perhaps give them another chance...

News Credits: 1 · by **SkyWarpsGhost** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:09 pm

I don't want to be to be seen having a go at Kapow.

I totally argree with you Banjo-Tron about the site re-design etc, unfortunately it's the service I have a huge problem with. Pm me if you wanna discuss it further sure.