Narc wrote:I have been using TFsource for a while now, all credit card transactions and never had a hickup. Please change the title of this post. It is a big injustice to them considering that it may not be TFsource that was hacked but the third-party company that they are using.
payton34 wrote:Narc wrote:I have been using TFsource for a while now, all credit card transactions and never had a hickup. Please change the title of this post. It is a big injustice to them considering that it may not be TFsource that was hacked but the third-party company that they are using.
Okay, if I changed it to "Third party company used by TFSource has been hacked, check your credit card statements", would it really make that much of a difference?
It's not like I said "Hey, TFSource is selling your CC info to the highest bidder, hunt them down at once!", I'm not laying any blame on them.
payton34 wrote:Narc wrote:I have been using TFsource for a while now, all credit card transactions and never had a hickup. Please change the title of this post. It is a big injustice to them considering that it may not be TFsource that was hacked but the third-party company that they are using.
Okay, if I changed it to "Third party company used by TFSource has been hacked, check your credit card statements", would it really make that much of a difference?
It's not like I said "Hey, TFSource is selling your CC info to the highest bidder, hunt them down at once!", I'm not laying any blame on them.
payton34 wrote:Yeah, I checked online earlier this morning and it didn't show anything. However, just to double-check I called anyway to see if there were any pending charges and sure enough, two pending charges for $1 and $1.50 (for iTunes and some Mobile prepaid minutes thing).
This sucks.
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:payton34 wrote:Yeah, I checked online earlier this morning and it didn't show anything. However, just to double-check I called anyway to see if there were any pending charges and sure enough, two pending charges for $1 and $1.50 (for iTunes and some Mobile prepaid minutes thing).
This sucks.
Yeah me too. I have one pending charge for $1 to itunes. TFSource can eat a bag full of dicks for the hassle I'm going to have to go through to straighten this **** out. Never using them again and I hope they go out of business.
atlmyk wrote:OK I just got 2 fraudulent charges posted to my card.
01/07/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LL $17.12
01/06/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LLC $112.89
This is a wholesale granite company in China. I am also letting you know I have never ever use TF source, their prices are crap imo. But I have used bbts on numerous occasions. I think we might need to look into the source of these charges a little more before throwing up statements like this thread title
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:atlmyk wrote:OK I just got 2 fraudulent charges posted to my card.
01/07/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LL $17.12
01/06/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LLC $112.89
This is a wholesale granite company in China. I am also letting you know I have never ever use TF source, their prices are crap imo. But I have used bbts on numerous occasions. I think we might need to look into the source of these charges a little more before throwing up statements like this thread title
Sure thing Mr. New Member with one post who just joined to tell us that. Totally not TF Source.
You's trollin!
Burn wrote:And some people said it was the RDD that caused the most problems ...
Of course we all know that was just Alpha Strike trying to cover his own arse.
atlmyk wrote: I think we might need to look into the source of these charges a little more before throwing up statements like this thread title
Narc wrote:payton34 wrote:Narc wrote:I have been using TFsource for a while now, all credit card transactions and never had a hickup. Please change the title of this post. It is a big injustice to them considering that it may not be TFsource that was hacked but the third-party company that they are using.
Okay, if I changed it to "Third party company used by TFSource has been hacked, check your credit card statements", would it really make that much of a difference?
It's not like I said "Hey, TFSource is selling your CC info to the highest bidder, hunt them down at once!", I'm not laying any blame on them.
Yes payton34, stating that "TFsource has been hacked" is a lot different from "Third party company used by TFsource has been hacked." Look at it. I am not attacking you but news is supposed to be factual. That's why I requested you to change the title of your post. You have the right to post what you want but consider that by stating that TFsource was hacked you are basically defaming a good company eventhough it has already been stated that it was not them that was hacked. And by ignoring the facts you are basically slandering the company.
atlmyk wrote:Loki God Of Mischief wrote:atlmyk wrote:OK I just got 2 fraudulent charges posted to my card.
01/07/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LL $17.12
01/06/2010 5691 DJM INTERNATIONAL LLC $112.89
This is a wholesale granite company in China. I am also letting you know I have never ever use TF source, their prices are crap imo. But I have used bbts on numerous occasions. I think we might need to look into the source of these charges a little more before throwing up statements like this thread title
Sure thing Mr. New Member with one post who just joined to tell us that. Totally not TF Source.
You's trollin!
Yes I did just join to post that I also had fraudulent charges. Up until now I had no need to post on this site. I have better things to to than cry about IDW's art or what Megan said about Bay this week. I use the site for a news source and for sightings. But of course anyone on the internet who does not agree with you is obviously a troll. I think it will be very apparent in the next few days that other people who have not used tf source have bogus charges as well. But I am sure they will all be trolls as well.
slip wrote:It has been brought to Seibertron.com's attention that some members of the Transformers online community have received unauthorized charges on their credit or debit cards. While there is much speculation pertaining to this issue, no one has been able to confirm the source of the security breach.
Ok before anyone wants to claim siding that say it all bottom line.
Your third party hack that rasies my eybrow on one way alone what at a granite company costs 17 dollars. Or Loki and the count less others who report these charges of far smaller amounts could be the same third party company, but different uses of your cards thus in a way making all of you right.
I have never bought a TF online so when i say this i aplaud BBTS for how they handle there security. I hold nothing against TFsource just it sucks that they have the possibility of lost revenue by a third party.
If you think it bad some question you, well go find a bar brawl that you know no one and step in it sorry but your gonna have peeps turn there agression on you. It's human nature next time maybe not make your first post into that of contreversy. Join up bitch about IDW or Bayformers or how much you love like various aspects of this fandom.
In short sorry you got ripped off but join up have fun all things aside not a bad community here.
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Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And it's looking like it's TF Source's fault.
revengeofstarscream wrote:Loki God Of Mischief wrote:And it's looking like it's TF Source's fault.
But if you are wrong then you are causing serious damage to TFSource's reputation and consequently inflicting harm on his business. This business may very well be Curt's economic livelihood. He may have a family and kids who depend on him.
How cool is it to have your own online store dedicated to Transformers? A lot of us die-hard fans would just LOVE to be able to make a living off of Transformers. Curt, in many ways, is living the dream.
Let us not persecute a potentially innocent man.
All of this premature speculation is nothing short of destructive. It is nothing but gossip at this point. Why don't we be more constructive and do what we can to help troubleshoot the matter? Why not use this forum to gather some stats on:
1) Who is receiving fraudulent ITunes/Microsoft charges
2) Who has bought from TFSource and when and how (e.g. PayPal, credit card, etc.)
3) What other sites (e.g. Amazon, IDW, BBTS, RobotKingdom) do those who have received fraudulent charges also frequent.
Perhaps, we may be able to see a pattern. Perhaps we won't see one. In any case, it will be a far more constructive use of our time than ranting about how we "wish TFSource would go out of business". I have read reports that some people have had their card compromised and NOT purchased from TFSource. Let's try to sort this out and get some facts.
If TFSource goes out of business, then it is bad news for all of us. Why? Because there will be less competition in this space and competition is good. BBTS makes it easier to cancel a pre-order than TFSource, but their prices are a bit higher. If I am certain I want something, I go with TFSource because it is usually cheaper. See? Having multiple vendors is a GOOD thing. Let's not unnecessarily cause harm.
If TFSource goes out of business over this AND it turns out they are innocent, then I will be extremely pissed off. I have purchased from TFSource MANY times. My card, to my knowledge, has not been compromised. I will keep checking up on this and let you know if that changes.
kirbenvost wrote:Well, for the record this won't stop me from buying for TFsource. It will, however, make me a little more careful about using my credit card online.
I actually called my credit card company about that $1 iTunes charge and they weren't very helpful. The guy told me it was probably what I'd originally thought, and doubted that they'd claim $1. Sounded pretty condescending the whole time too.
Loki God Of Mischief wrote:kirbenvost wrote:Well, for the record this won't stop me from buying for TFsource. It will, however, make me a little more careful about using my credit card online.
I actually called my credit card company about that $1 iTunes charge and they weren't very helpful. The guy told me it was probably what I'd originally thought, and doubted that they'd claim $1. Sounded pretty condescending the whole time too.
I explained to mine that it was the result of a site that I shop on being hacked, me finding out from a friend and a news report and that the first part of the scam was the $1 charge to see if the card was active, then the second part was to rape the account until it's closed. The guy I talked to was really helpful once I explained that and after he verified I'm who I said I was he canceled the card, said that a new one would ship tomorrow and take two days (probably business days so Monday or Tuesday at the latest) and said I'd be getting a new card number and password. It sucks that the guy you talked to was a jerk.
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