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A stealth bomber is gigantic. His robot mode will be much larger than Prime. Probably closing in to the size of Devastator.

Roller!

Deadpool. wrote:Roller!

Roller... I don't remember that name

An_de wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Roller!

Roller... I don't remember that name

Here.

http://www.seibertron.com/toys/fullsize.php?id=34&size=1&image=29

An_de wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Roller!

Roller... I don't remember that name

It's a straight-edged device, used for measuring small objects, and used for drawing straight lines. Usually made of transparent plastics, 1 foot long, 1 inch wide, a couple of millimeters thick. With gradations etched or printed on the edge.

Tidalwave should be in the movie and if he is he should
be a B2 instead of an aircraft carrier. Can you picture him transforming in the middle of the ocean than sinking. WTF!

Ironhider wrote:Tidalwave should be in the movie and if he is he should
be a B2 instead of an aircraft carrier. Can you picture him transforming in the middle of the ocean than sinking. WTF!

If he transforms near the shore, he won't sink. He'll be much taller than to be able to sink.

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Ironhider wrote:Tidalwave should be in the movie and if he is he should
be a B2 instead of an aircraft carrier. Can you picture him transforming in the middle of the ocean than sinking. WTF!

If he transforms near the shore, he won't sink. He'll be much taller than to be able to sink.

Unless, he has jet boosters/propellers in Robot mode, so that when he transforms in the water, he can sort of fly up.

Auto Bot wrote:

An_de wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Roller!

Roller... I don't remember that name

It's a straight-edged device, used for measuring small objects, and used for drawing straight lines. Usually made of transparent plastics, 1 foot long, 1 inch wide, a couple of millimeters thick. With gradations etched or printed on the edge.

I think the fundamental flaw with the aircraft carrier TF is it's sheer size. Tidalwave's protoform would be pretty damned big. Hard for someone to miss something 1000' long and has the displacement of 100 000 tones, falling from the sky at 600 mph (or whatever) and yet remain in "disguise".

AND carriers travel in battle groups so I think someone would notice if one goes missing and suddenly re-appears with all it's crew and various aircraft missing.

I know how most people here hate plot holes...an aircraft carrier would leave a pretty big one.

Fisherman #1: "He look guys! free Nimitz class aircraft carrier!"
Fisherman #2 and #3: "Sweeeeet."

Deadpool. wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Ironhider wrote:Tidalwave should be in the movie and if he is he should
be a B2 instead of an aircraft carrier. Can you picture him transforming in the middle of the ocean than sinking. WTF!

If he transforms near the shore, he won't sink. He'll be much taller than to be able to sink.

Unless, he has jet boosters/propellers in Robot mode, so that when he transforms in the water, he can sort of fly up.

That will be inconsistent with his alt mode.

An_de wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

An_de wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Roller!

Roller... I don't remember that name

It's a straight-edged device, used for measuring small objects, and used for drawing straight lines. Usually made of transparent plastics, 1 foot long, 1 inch wide, a couple of millimeters thick. With gradations etched or printed on the edge.

Misspelled ruler.

Magnanimous wrote:I think the fundamental flaw with the aircraft carrier TF is it's sheer size. Tidalwave's protoform would be pretty damned big. Hard for someone to miss something 1000' long and has the displacement of 100 000 tones, falling from the sky at 600 mph (or whatever) and yet remain in "disguise".

AND carriers travel in battle groups so I think someone would notice if one goes missing and suddenly re-appears with all it's crew and various aircraft missing.

I know how most people here hate plot holes...an aircraft carrier would leave a pretty big one.

Fisherman #1: "He look guys! free Nimitz class aircraft carrier!"
Fisherman #2 and #3: "Sweeeeet."

His entry into our atmosphere alone, plus the impact of landing, would have wiped out several cities. If he landed in Hawaii, the whole island chain will be completely destroyed.

I think Bay is insane to want to call in an aircraft carrier for the sequel.

Auto Bot wrote:

Magnanimous wrote:I think the fundamental flaw with the aircraft carrier TF is it's sheer size. Tidalwave's protoform would be pretty damned big. Hard for someone to miss something 1000' long and has the displacement of 100 000 tones, falling from the sky at 600 mph (or whatever) and yet remain in "disguise".

AND carriers travel in battle groups so I think someone would notice if one goes missing and suddenly re-appears with all it's crew and various aircraft missing.

I know how most people here hate plot holes...an aircraft carrier would leave a pretty big one.

Fisherman #1: "He look guys! free Nimitz class aircraft carrier!"
Fisherman #2 and #3: "Sweeeeet."

His entry into our atmosphere alone, plus the impact of landing, would have wiped out several cities. If he landed in Hawaii, the whole island chain will be completely destroyed.

I think Bay is insane to want to call in an aircraft carrier for the sequel.

Unless Tidal Wave arrives in the form of several, smaller protoforms.

Or he just doesn't have to "crash" on Earth, he could have a jet alt mode like Megatron and make a much more discreet and safe landing before assuming the carrier mode for disguise purposes.

Skowl wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:

Magnanimous wrote:I think the fundamental flaw with the aircraft carrier TF is it's sheer size. Tidalwave's protoform would be pretty damned big. Hard for someone to miss something 1000' long and has the displacement of 100 000 tones, falling from the sky at 600 mph (or whatever) and yet remain in "disguise".

AND carriers travel in battle groups so I think someone would notice if one goes missing and suddenly re-appears with all it's crew and various aircraft missing.

I know how most people here hate plot holes...an aircraft carrier would leave a pretty big one.

Fisherman #1: "He look guys! free Nimitz class aircraft carrier!"
Fisherman #2 and #3: "Sweeeeet."

His entry into our atmosphere alone, plus the impact of landing, would have wiped out several cities. If he landed in Hawaii, the whole island chain will be completely destroyed.

I think Bay is insane to want to call in an aircraft carrier for the sequel.

Unless Tidal Wave arrives in the form of several, smaller protoforms.

Or he just doesn't have to "crash" on Earth, he could have a jet alt mode like Megatron and make a much more discreet and safe landing before assuming the carrier mode for disguise purposes.

How about a reverse idea of the usual combiner. Several protoforms reformatted into several robots. Then all these robots combine to form one giant alt mode, an aircraft carrier.

I wont pretend to know how many satelites we have rotating this planet but i can see my house on google maps...


I'ld still would like to see a carrier, if Bay is still only considering it, but there will be a good number of fans hating it regardless if he does it or not at this point.

As Tidalwave or Shockfleet, I could see the Reflector type of transformation utilized. Shockwave could fittingly be the carriers main gun, and it could be made from a number of TFs (3-8). A squad or two of flight capable warriors would be his to command.

This of course would limit the individual screne time of the seekers short of Starscream.

I, for one, do not hate Tidalwave, or the concept of an aircraft carrier.

But he's just too dam big to come out at this time. His presence in TF2 will render crowd favorites Devastator, and Dinobots, insignificant.

It's not a big problem to bring him into a cartoon series. As cartoons don't follow correct scales anyway.

Maybe he ought to be introduce in TF3 or TF4.

Here's the list of TFs I would like to see:
(sorry, no pics at the moment)

Autobots
Sideswipe- 2006 Dodge Viper SRT 10 (based off of his new toy)
Hotshot- Porsche 997 Turbo (He's a Porsche dangit!)
Prowl- Dodge Charger SRT8 (In police markings of course)
Airraid- F35 Lightning II (to modernize him)
Inferno- Fire Engine (I always liked him)

Decepticons
Thundercracker- F22 Raptor (Like his counterpart)
Skywarp- SU-47 (BADASS!)
Wildrider- Ferrari F430
Dreadwing- MIG 29 Fulcrum (Like his new toy)

Also, hoping against hope, I like to see a Pontiac Firebird or a Nissan Titan too

I HAVE FOUND WINDCHARGER!

Motormaster and Optimus.

I you wanted to be GM friendly, instead of a Dodge Viper, Sideswipe could be one of these two

Deadpool. wrote:Motormaster and Optimus.

so Motormaster is basically a Decepticon clone of Optimus?


Michael

dbz77 wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Motormaster and Optimus.

so Motormaster is basically a Decepticon clone of Optimus?


Michael

Yeah, Pretty much

Hot Shot - 2009 Corvette
Ultramagnus - A Car Carrying Transfer
Broadside - A Navy Battle Carrier also Broadside is a triple changer
Trailblazer - A Jeep Grand Cheeroke
Sound Wave - Stealth Bomber
Shockwave - that helicopter in the movie that had wierd propellors on it

Warpath - A Tanks similar to Devestator
Astrotrain - Space Shuttle Columbia
Arcee - Kawasaki Ninja or the bike that Lennox rode
Thundercraker - A F-17 Fighter Jet
Powerglide - That airplane that brought the rain
Grimlock - A Giant Earthmoving Dumpruck
Mirage - A Idianapolis Race Car not the Nascar ones
Sunstreaker - Yellow Laborghini
Sideswipe - A Red Ferarri
Lazerbeak - A Playstation 3
Buzzsaw - An IPhone
Rumble - Xbox 360 or a Mountain Dew Machine
Blaster - A Cool Looking CD Player or a Bose Boom Box

Other I would like to see in it but dont know what could be ther alt modes are

Rodimus
Kup
Omega Supreme
Skywarp
Tital Wave
Metroplex
Trypticon
The Predicons that formed the robot not from beast wars
The Protectobots
The Aierial Bots
Galvatron
Elita-1
Override
Landmine
Scattershot
Red Alert
Vector Prime
Springer
Gears
Hoist
Grapple
Havoc
The Stunticons
The Insecticons
Scourge
The Sweeps
Perciptor
Sonar
Snowcat
Demolishor
Sky Fire
Jet Fire
Dirge
Thrust
Ramjet
The Dinobots but since alot of people dont think they will look good as dinos make them into something new

Wheelie
Sandstorm
The Combaticons
Prowl
Beachcomber
Cosmos

Here is a list to pick from Hollywood if you pay attention I now almost every transformers from a to z but I dont pay much attection to the comics or the toy lines. Not since I was a little kid anywas but the new Alternators and Masterpieces are starting to catch my eye so is the new comics out about Megatron and stuff lots and lots of cool new stuff out.

dbz77 wrote:

Deadpool. wrote:Motormaster and Optimus.

so Motormaster is basically a Decepticon clone of Optimus?


Michael

Yes....