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Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:"how does Hastaks 2015 combiners compare to FP Intimidator and TFC Uranos?"
Hard to say, as it's currently 2014.
Yotsuyasan wrote:Overall: Sucks that Hasbro felt the need to mess with the teams by changing the alt-modes of one member in each team. The Aerialbots, at least, look good enough otherwise that I can get past this. The Stunticons... not so much.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:Overall: Sucks that Hasbro felt the need to mess with the teams by changing the alt-modes of one member in each team.
Not to nitpick too much, but there are other changes too.
Yotsuyasan wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:Overall: Sucks that Hasbro felt the need to mess with the teams by changing the alt-modes of one member in each team.
Not to nitpick too much, but there are other changes too.
Sorry, I suppose I should have said "drastically changing the alt-odes of one member in each team."
Mkall wrote:I'll be replacing my FP Superion with Hasbro's for sure. I don't even mind the re-imagined Slingshot.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:What would be really cool is if they use the same combining pegs as Energon and I could just replace the core and a couple of the limbs. Somehow I doubt it.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Rated X wrote: You get what you pay for.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: You get what you pay for.
This is all my opinion below, I state nothing as fact.
When your paying 3rd party prices of five to six times more than Hasbro's USA TF toy of the same size. You are not getting what you pay for, You are being overcharged plain and simple.
When buyers in 2015 buy those Hasbro USA combiners toys, They will get what they pay for. $15 or $22 for a deluxe or Voyager combiner that is a Tripple changer, is highly articulated, highly sculpted is a fair competive market price.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:"You get what you pay for", Sounds more like a life jail sentence.
Not if it means not getting married,having no kids,no family,no friends. budgeting all of this out of my life, So I can have more money for toys is not something I'm willing to do.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: You get what you pay for.
This is all my opinion below, I state nothing as fact.
When your paying 3rd party prices of five to six times more than Hasbro's USA TF toy of the same size. You are not getting what you pay for, You are being overcharged plain and simple.
When buyers in 2015 buy those Hasbro USA combiners toys, They will get what they pay for. $15 or $22 for a deluxe or Voyager combiner that is a Tripple changer, is highly articulated, highly sculpted is a fair competive market price.
"You get what you pay for", Sounds more like a ironic self imposed life sentence. Not if it means not getting married,having no kids,no family,no friends. budgeting all of this out of my life, So I can have more money for toys is not something I'm willing to do.
necr0blivion wrote:I want to start with the merits of these new Hasbro figures. First off, a highly reminiscent display of G1 roots here (with the exception of the 1 team member who is so different now - makes me wonder what the repaint is scheduled to be). Even some design cues like the combiner chests and the wide but spindly legs makes me look back at that G1 collection and smile. And 5 unique figures, instead of the Energon combiner schema.
As a mass-retail product, I think these hit all the right points. I really like most of these guys, and you can tell that the designers have been incorporating fans' comments into the product (larger torso/leader, smaller limbs). The molds on even the smaller guys are great. I don't care that they are missing wrist swivel, look how awesome and evocative each figure is! I know I was excited about FoC Bruticus, but I'm even more excited for these new releases. Definite buy on my part.
Now, comparing to their 3rd party equivalents: TFC caters to collectors wanting large robots adorning their shelves. That's okay, because I am one of those guys. Sure, the Hasbro versions will not be as intimidating (*snicker*) as a TFC combiner, but look at all the things it does right. There are heavy G1 influences, which seem to be the cornerstone of fans' desires in newer figures. We may not get the same amount articulation out of these new official products as opposed to the 3Ps, but at a fraction of the cost I don't have much room to complain.
Hasbro really seemed to take our requests into consideration. There's probably more to it than we know currently (Alpha Bravo could easily be repainted into Vortex or Blades). There's a lot to like here. And even our "adult-priced" 3Ps come with their own nitpicks or straight-up flaws.
In the end, this is headed in the right direction for Hasbro. I think the economy of scale is going to pay off and make a lot of fans happy (maybe even gain new fans), but there will always be a niche market to fill for those who have the money to spend on these unofficial products. And as long as the products continue to be attractive, I'll buy as much as I can.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
It goes without saying, when 3rd parties and imports sites can no longer get decent sales and turn a worthwhile profit. They will stop making combiners and do other Transformers things. Think these 2015-2016 HasTak combiners has what it takes to cause this damage to 3rd parties.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think the only thing hurting the look of that 2015 HasTak Menasor is that badly sculpted Motormaster figure in both modes. Think the other four limbs-bots Stunticons toys look just as good as the FP Stunticons toys do in all Three modes.
rpetras wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think the only thing hurting the look of that 2015 HasTak Menasor is that badly sculpted Motormaster figure in both modes. Think the other four limbs-bots Stunticons toys look just as good as the FP Stunticons toys do in all Three modes.
This^^^^
I think the limb-bots look fine, but that Motormaster is total crap.
If someone fixes that like they did for FoC Bruticus, I'll be a happy camper.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Tsutsukakushi wrote:necr0blivion wrote:I want to start with the merits of these new Hasbro figures. First off, a highly reminiscent display of G1 roots here (with the exception of the 1 team member who is so different now - makes me wonder what the repaint is scheduled to be). Even some design cues like the combiner chests and the wide but spindly legs makes me look back at that G1 collection and smile. And 5 unique figures, instead of the Energon combiner schema.
As a mass-retail product, I think these hit all the right points. I really like most of these guys, and you can tell that the designers have been incorporating fans' comments into the product (larger torso/leader, smaller limbs). The molds on even the smaller guys are great. I don't care that they are missing wrist swivel, look how awesome and evocative each figure is! I know I was excited about FoC Bruticus, but I'm even more excited for these new releases. Definite buy on my part.
Now, comparing to their 3rd party equivalents: TFC caters to collectors wanting large robots adorning their shelves. That's okay, because I am one of those guys. Sure, the Hasbro versions will not be as intimidating (*snicker*) as a TFC combiner, but look at all the things it does right. There are heavy G1 influences, which seem to be the cornerstone of fans' desires in newer figures. We may not get the same amount articulation out of these new official products as opposed to the 3Ps, but at a fraction of the cost I don't have much room to complain.
Hasbro really seemed to take our requests into consideration. There's probably more to it than we know currently (Alpha Bravo could easily be repainted into Vortex or Blades). There's a lot to like here. And even our "adult-priced" 3Ps come with their own nitpicks or straight-up flaws.
In the end, this is headed in the right direction for Hasbro. I think the economy of scale is going to pay off and make a lot of fans happy (maybe even gain new fans), but there will always be a niche market to fill for those who have the money to spend on these unofficial products. And as long as the products continue to be attractive, I'll buy as much as I can.
You hit all the nails on the head. This is something similar to what I was saying in this thread.
It goes without saying, when 3rd parties and imports sites can no longer get decent sales and turn a worthwhile profit for combiners. They will stop making combiners and do other Transformers things. Think these 2015-2016 HasTak combiners has what it takes to cause this damage to 3rd parties making combiners.
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