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[Scaleface]

We lost the old thread a while back. This thread is for listing the scale of Transformers based on either measurements given in their bios or on real world vehicle sizes.

1:1
Armada Laserbeak is supposedly to scale with his actual form as a role play toy, so he's 1:1.

1:10
Beast Machines Rattrap is described in the show bible as being a 5 foot (152 centimeter) long rat. I'm guessing they were not counting the tail, so that makes his 15 cm Beast Machines toy would be 1:10 scale.

1:13
Heinlad - toy is 20cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.6 meters tall.

1:14
TM Rattrap is described in the show bible as being a 5 foot (152 centimeter) long rat. I'm guessing they were not counting the tail, so that makes his 11 cm long transmetal body 1:14 scale.
TM Rattrap - toy is 13 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 180cm (5'11'') tall.
Movie Deluxe Arcee - An actual Buell Firebolt is 194 centimeters long. With the toy measuring 14 centimeters long it has a scale of about 1/14. Her robot mode would stand about 6'11''.

1:15
Timelines Rattrap is described in the show bible as being a 5 foot (152 centimeter) long rat. I'm guessing they were not counting the tail, so that makes his 10cm tall Timelines toy 1:15 scale.
Lio Convoy is supposed to stand 3 meters tall and his toy stands 20 centimeters tall.
Megastorm - toy is 27 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 4 meters tall.

1:16
Bigmos - toy is 17cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.7 meters.
Tonbot - toy is 16cm tall, but in the show he stands, 2.5 meters tall.
Apache - Toy is 18cm tall, and the show bible says he stands 2.9 meters tall.
Ultimate Bumblebee - Hasbro's web site claims he's a 1/16 scale toy.

1:17
TM Cheetor - toy is 13.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 230cm tall.
TM Rampage - toy is 20 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 340cm tall.
Longrack - toy is 17cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.9 meters tall.
Archadis - toy is 18cm tall, but in the show he stands 3.1 meters tall.

1:18
Scissorboy - toy is 12cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.1 meters.
Big Convoy - toy is 18cm tall, but in the show he stands 3.2 meters tall.

1:19
Kicker, an average GI Joe or Star Wars figure stands 3.75 inches tall and a normal human stands about 72 inches tall give or take. That's a 1:19 scale. With the Highwire toy that accompanies Kicker standing 5 inches tall, that would make the Mini-Con 95 inches tall, or 7'11'' tall.
Motorarm - toy is 16 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 3 meters tall.
Beast Wars Second Starscream - toy is 13 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.5 meters tall.
TM Optimus Primal - toy is 16 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 300cm tall.
TM Tarantulas - toy is 13 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 250cm tall.

1:20
Fuzor Silverbolt - toy is 13 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 260cm tall.
Fuzor Quickstrike - toy is 10 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 200cm tall.
Corada - toy is 14cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.75 meters tall.

1:21
Scuba - toy is 13 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.7 meters tall.
LioJunior - toy is 10.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.2 meters tall.
Beast Wars Neo Hydra - toy is 13cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.7 meters tall.

1:22
DJ - toy is 11.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.5 meters tall.
BB - toy is 18.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 4 meters tall.
Mach Kick - toy is 14cm tall, but in the show he stands 3.1 meters tall.
Saberback - toy is 13cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.9 meters tall.

1:23
Powerhug - toy is 14cm tall, but in the show he stands 3.2 meters.
Bighorn - toy is 15 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 3.5 meters tall.
Tasmanian Kid - toy is 10 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.3 meters tall.
Beast Wars Second Skywarp - toy is 12 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.8 meters tall.
TM Megatron - toy is 14 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 320cm tall.

1:24
This is the scale of all the Binaltech/Alternators cars and trucks. As an example Silver/Blue Streak stands 17.5 cm tall, which means he would stand a mere 13.8 feet tall!
Beast Wars Neo Randy is 2.8 meters tall in the show according to show notes. the toy is 11.5 CM tall, so he's 1:24 scale.
Gimlet - toy is 14.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 3.5 meters tall.
Tripledacus - toy is 23 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 5.5 meters tall.
Santon - toy is 14.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 3.5 meters tall.
Halfshell - toy is 17 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 4 meters tall.
Magmatron - toy is 19cm tall, but in the show he stands 4.5 meters tall.
At this scale a 6 foot tall human would stand 3 inches tall.

1:25
Magnaboss - toy is 22 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 5.5 meters (18') tall.
Beast Wars Second Dirge - toy is 10 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.5 meters tall.

1:26
Diver - toy is 10.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.7 meters tall.
Beast Wars Second Galvatron - toy is 19 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 5 meters tall.
Beast Wars Second Thrust - toy is 10 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.6 meters tall.
God Neptune - toy is 22 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 5.7 meters tall.
Stampy - toy is 10cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.6 meters tall.

1:27
Bump - toy is 10cm tall, but in the show he stands 2.7 meters tall.
Guiledart - toy is 12cm tall, but in the show he stands 3.2 meters tall.

1:28
G2 Megatron is a M1A1 tank, which is 7.92 meters long. His toy is 28 cm tall. 1:28 scale. With the robot form standing 27 cm tall, this makes G2 Megatron about 25 feet tell.
Movie Deluxe Jazz
Movie Voyager Ratchet

1:29
Getaway was a 15cm long Mazda RX-7. With a real Mazda of that model measuring 429cm long (about 14.075'), this toy would have a scale of about 1:29. Having a 15cm tall robot mode as well, that would mean Lightfoot would stand about 429cm tall as a real robot, or about 14 feet tall.

1:30
Scalle - toy is 9 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.7 meters tall.
Coelagon - toy is 8 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.4 meters tall.
Rockbuster - toy is 10cm tall, but in the show he stands, 3 meters tall.
Bazooka - toy is 10cm tall, but in the show he stands, 3 meters tall.
Masterpiece Optimus Prime toy is 30.2 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:31
Terrormander - toy is 8 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.5 meters tall.
Seaphantom - toy is 7.5 centimeters tall and the character is supposed to stand 2.8 meters tall.
Break - toy is 9cm tall, but in the show he stands, 2.8 meters tall.
Energon Optimus Prime stands 765 centimeters or 25 feet tall in super robot mode. With the toy standing 25 centimeters tall, he would be 1/31 scale.

1:32
Cybertron Deluxe Hot Shot (and Excellion) are 14 cm long, a Chrysler ME 412 is 454 cm long. Scale is 1/32. Robot would stand 14 feet 11 inches in robot mode.
Punch/Counterpunch - An actual Pontiac Fiero measures 407 centimeters long, while this toy measures 12.5 centimeters long. With a 33 centimeter tall robot mode the real robot would stand about 429 centmeters (14 feet 1 inch) tall.
Movie Deluxe Barricade
Movie Deluze Swindle
Obiwan Kenobi's ETA-2 starfighter is 547 centimeters long, while the toy is 17 centimeters long. With the toy robot standing 6.5 inches tall, the real robot would stand 17 feet 4 inches tall.

1:34 (Nearly 1 gauge for model train fans)
Cybertron Crosswise transforms into a black Bugatti Veyron. The toy of Crosswise is 13 cm long in vehicle mode, whereas a real Bugatti Veyron is 447 cm long, so the toy is at a scale of about 1:34. The toy stands about 14 cm tall as a robot, which means Crosswise would stand about 481 cm or 15 feet 10 inches tall. Also works for Cybertron Smokescreen.
Movie Concept Deluxe Bumblebee is about 1/34 scale.
General Grievous's Starfighter is 671 centimeters long, while the toy is 19.5 centimeters long. With the toy robot standing 6.5 inches tall at the head, the real robot would stand 18 feet 5 inches tall.

1:35
Movie Leader Brawl - A real M1 Abrhams tank is 366 centimeters wide, while this toy is 10.5 centimeters wide. This makes it about 1/35 scale. He would stand about 26 feet tall.

1:36
RiD Sideburn (and his variants - Shadow Striker, Roulette, Universe Sideburn) is 12.5 cm long, and a Dodge Viper is 445 cm long, this gives us a scale of 1:36. Since he stands 13 cm tall in robot mode, he would stand 15.4 feet tall.
At this scale a 6 foot tall human stands about 2 inchs tall, just for reference.
Leobreaker (and Nemesis Breaker) is 24 feet tall. 8 inch tall toy is 1/36 scale.

1:37
Sideswipe's toy measures 11 cm in vehicle mode. An actual Lamborghini Countach is 414 cm long. That's a scale of 1:37. With a 11 cm robot mode it means Sideswipe would stand 13'4'' tall. This measurement also works for Red Alert, Tiger Track and Deep Cover.
Prowl's toy is 11 cm in vehicle mode. A real Datsun Fairlady is 413 cm
long. That's also a scale of 1:37. With an 11 cm robot mode Prowl would stand about 13'4'' as well. This measurement also works for Bluestreak/Silverstreak and Smokescreen.
Armada Megatron is supposed to stand 22 feet 11 inches tall (698cm) according to the Armada video game, and his toy is 19cm tall (at the head). That's a scale of 1:37.

1:38
RiD Prowl (and his repaints Super Prowl, Universe Prowl, Sunstreaker and Sideswipe) are 12 cm long, but a real Diablo car is 451 cm long. That's a scale of 1:38. Since Prowl stands 12 cm tall, he's about 15 feet tall.
Cybertron Megatron is 32 feet tall. With a 10 inch tall toy he's 1/38 scale.
With Energon Highwire standing 95 inches tall, as figured above, his Mini-Con toy that stands 2.5 inches tall would be 1/38 scale. Grindor and Sureshock would be the same scale as well. With Energon/Cybertron Perceptor standing 4.25 inches tall, his combined robot form would stand 13 feet 6 inches tall.

1:39
Jazz's toy is 12cm long in vehicle mode. The Porsche 935 car is 466 cm long. That's a scale of 1:39. With an 11 cm robot mode Jazz would stand 14'1'' tall. This measurement also works for Stepper/Ricochet.
Cybertron Jetfire should stand 731 centimeters tall, but his Ultra toy stands 19 centimeters tall.

1/40
Cybertron Defense Red Alert is 84 pixels tall making him 24.5 feet or 747 centimeters tall at the head. The Ultra figure is 18.5 centimeters for a 1/40 scale.

1:41
Evac is 23 feet tall. 6.75 inch toy is 1/41 scale. Note, basing his scale on the actual vehicle is at 1/44 scale below.
Cybertron Starscream is depicted in the animated series as standing about 24 feet tall, while the Voyager class toy is 7 inches tall. This gives us a scale of about 1/41.

1:43
Cybertron Crumplezone is 25 feet tall. 7 inch tall toy is 1/43 scale.
Vector Prime is 28 feet tall. The 7.75 inch tall toy is 1/43 scale.
Supreme Starscream at the head is 48 feet tall. 13.5 inch tall toy means a he's 1/43 scale.

1:44 (O Scale to model railroaders)
The fuselage length of the actual helicopter Evac is based on
(Aerospatiale SA 365 ) is 11.64 meters long, where the larger Evac toys has a fuselage 26 centimeters long, giving it a scale of about 1:44. Using this information would indicate Evac would stand about 23 feet tall in robot mode.
Cybertron Crosswise is 20 feet tall. 5.5 inch tall toy is 1/44 scale.
Cybertron Overhaul is depicted as 14.6 feet (175 inches) tall, while his toy stands 4 inches tall for a scale of 1/44. This also works for Cybertron Brushguard and movie Warpath.

1:45
The Superlink Grand Convoy model kit claims he's 1/45 scale. With a super-robot mode measuring 17 centimeters tall, that's 765 centimeteters, or about 25 feet tall.
Cybertron Ransack is 15 feet tall. The 4 inch tall toy has a scale of 1/45.
Cybertron Scourge at the head is 29 feet tall. The 7.75 inch tall toy is 1/45 scale.

1:46
It's hard to convert characters with Cybertonian modes, but I did find a reference in the TFCC magazine saying Universe Ramjet is 30 feet tall. That's 914 cm. The toy of Universe Ramjet stands 20cm tall for a scale of 1:46.
Cybertron Snarl is 21 feet tall. 5.5 inch tall toy is 1/46 scale.

1:47
G2 Combat Hero Megatron (and his variations like RiD Bludgeon and Rebrith Megatron) is a M1A1 tank, 7.92 meters long. His toy is 14 cm long. Scale is 1:47. With a robot form standing 19 cm tall, this Megatron is 29 feet all.

1:48
Cybertron Override is 23 feet tall. the 5.75 inch tall toy has a scale of 1/48.
Clocker is 17 feet tall. 4.25 inch tall toy is 1/48 scale. This also works with Cybertron Swerve.
Cybertron Landmine is 19.8 feet (238 inches) tall, while his toy stands 5 inches tall for a scale of 1/48. This also works for movie Grindcore.
At this scale a 6 foot tall human stands about 1 1/2 inch tall, just for reference.

1:51
Swindle (XR311) - 1:51 - 11' 8" tall in robot mode. This also works for his RiD and Universe repaints.
Powermaster Optimus Prime toy is 19 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.
Movie Wreckage - With a real LAV-C2 being 639 centimeters long and this toy measuring 12.5 centimeters long, it would have a scale of 1/51 and he would stand about 23 feet tall in robot mode.

1:54
With Pretender Bumblebee about 7.5 cm long, then, his scale is about 1:54, making his 8.5 cm robot mode 15 feet 1 in tall in real life.
Backstop is 17 feet tall. 3.75 inch tall toy is 1/54 scale.

1:57
G1 Optimus Prime toy is 16 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.
Movie Deluxe Bonecrusher

1:58
Goldbug is 7 cm long, whereas a real Volkswagen Beetle is 406 cm. This gives us a scale of 1:58. With Goldbug standing 7.5 cm in robot mode. He should stand 14.3 feet tall.

1:60
With Ruinations official height being given as 15 meters (49.2 feet) tall, and the toy measuring 25 centimeters tall, the toy would have a scale of about 1/60. This would mean Mega-Octane would stand 11.4 meters (37.4 feet) tall, while the other Commandos would stand about 4.8 meters (15.7 feet) tall.
Titanium 6 inch Optimus Prime is toy is 15.2 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:61
Cybertron Micro Hot Shot (and Excellion and Classic Legends Bumblebee) is 7.5 cm long, while a ME 412 is 454 cm long.
Deluxe Movie Brawl - A real M1 Abrhams tank is 366 centimeters wide, while this toy is 6 centimeters wide. This makes it about 1/61 scale.
Turbomaster Rotorstorm, Machine Wars Sandstorm and Universe Whirl are 22 centimeters long while a real AH-1 Cobra is 1340 centimeters long. With robot mode standing 17.5 centimeters tall the real world robot would stand 1066 centimeters tall, about 35 feet.

1:63
Rail Racer is said to stand 15 meters (49 feet) tall in the show notes. The toy is 24cm tall. This means he's 1/63 scale.
With this scale for all it's members the 15.5cm tall Railspike would stand 9.77 meters or 32 feet tall. Rapid Run and Midnight Express are 18cm so they would stand 11.34 meters or 37.2 feet tall each.
Classic Ultimate Battle Optimus Prime toy is 14.5 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:64 (S-Gauge scale)
G2 Firecracker (and his repaints Gobot Optimus Prime, Gobot Sideswipe and RiD REV) are 7 cm long, but a real Diablo car is 451 cm long. That's a scale of 1:64. Since Firecracker stands 7 cm tall, he's about 15 feet tall.
All G2 Go-Bots/Spy Changers are generally considered 1:64 scale.

1:66
Cybertron Metroplex is about 74 feet tall. With a 13.5 inch tall toy, he's 1/66 scale.

1:69
Evac is 23 feet tall. 4 inch tall legends toy is 1/69 scale.

1:70
Robot Masters G1 Convoy toy is 13 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:72
At this scale a 6 foot tall human stands about 1 inch tall, just for reference.

1:74
Star Wars Darth Vader Transformer is 12.5cm long. According to sources an actual Tie Fighter Advance is 920 cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:74. In robot mode the toy stands 19cm tall, so robo-Darth sands 46
feet tall!

1:75
Brawl (Leopard I tank) - 1:75 - 22' 2" tall. This also works for his RiD and Universe repaints.

1:76
Bumblejumper 5 cm long and the 1979 Mazda Familia is 382 cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:76. Since he stands 7.5 cm tall, that makes Bumblejumper 18.7 feet tall.

1:78
Quake: West German Leopard II main battle tank, Quake's prototype is 370 cm wide and 769 cm long, placing his scale at about 1:78. In robot mode, then, he should be 34 feet, 1 1/2 inchest tall. So are his Targetmaster buddies, who are about 12 feet tall.

1:79
Revoltech G1 Convoy toy is 11.5 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:81
In one of the early issues of the Marvel Comics, Bumblebee is said to stand 15 feet tall in robot mode. The toy of Bumblebee is about 5 cm long, whereas a real Volkswagen Beetle is 406 cm (13.32 feet) long, implying a scale of 1:81. With a toy robot
mode height of 8 cemtimeters, Bumblebee should stand about 648 cm (or 21.3 feet) tall. This measurement also works for Bug Bite and Glyph.

1:82
Cybertron Menasor is 58 feet tall. With an 8.5 inch tall toy, he's 1/82 scale.

1:84 (Nearly HO-Scale for those model train fans)
G1 Darkwing is a Panavia Tornado jet which is 16.72 meters long. The toy is 20cm long. So he's 1:84 scale. Toy robot mode is 17cm tall, so he would stand 14.2 meters or about 46.6 feet tall.

1:86
Cybertron Legends Jetfire stands 8.5cm tall, but he should stand 732cm tall.

1:87
Smallest Sideswipe is 4.75 centimeters long, while a Lamborgini Countach is 414 centimeters long, for a scale of about 1/87. Also works with smallest Red Alert.

1/89
Cybertron Quickmix is 52 feet tall. With a 7 inch tall toy he's 1/89 scale.
Movie Blackout - This toy 's fuselage is 25 centimeters long, while an actual Pavelow helicopter is 2235 centimeters long. This gives it a scale of about 1/89. With a robot toy height of 19 centimeters, Blackout should stand about 55 feet tall.

1:90
Movie Voyager Starscream and Thundercracker.

1:93
Starscream (and the other 6 Seekers - Dirge, Ramjet, Thundercracker, Skywarp and Sunstorm) are 21cm long in vehicle mode. An actual F-15 is 1944 cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:93. With a robot mode of 14 cm, Starscream should stand 42.7 feet tall.

1:95
Warpath is a M551 Sheridan light tank, 280 cm wide and 631 cm long, so he scales to about 1:95; 21 feet 11 inches tall in robot mode. This also works for ehobby Treads.

1:96
Leobreaker is 24 feet tall. 3 inch tall legends toy is 1/96 scale.

1:97
Armada Thrust (Universe Sunstorm) - An actual F-35 fighter is 15.47 meters long, while the Thrust toy is 16 centimeters long, making it a scale of about 1/97 scale.

1:100
Cybertron Defense Red Alert is 84 pixels tall making him 24.5 feet or 747 centimeters tall at the head. The Legends figure is 7.5 centimeters tall for a 1/100 scale.

1:102
Movie Deluxe Dreadwing - With a real MiG-29 being 1737 centimeters long and this toy measuring 17 centimeters long, it would have a scale of 1/102 and he would stand about 50 feet tall in robot mode.

1:104
Trakkon Fearswoop/Black Omen is 16.5cm long, while an FA-18 is 17.1m long.

1:110
The Micro class version of Evac is only 10.5 centimeters long, giving it a scale of about 1:110.
Skydive (F-16 Falcon)- 1:110 - 30' 8" in robot mode

1:112
Vector Prime is 28 feet tall. The 3 inch legends toy has a scale of 1/112.

1:116
Cybertron Scourge at the head is 29 feet tall. The legends toy is 3 inches tall for a 1/116 scale

1:117
Machine Wars Skywarp is 12cm long in jet mode. An actual Saab Gripen jet is 14.1 meters long.
This makes him 1/117 scale. With a 10cm tall robot mode he would stand 11.75 meters (39 feet) tall. This also works with Machine Wars Thundercracker.

1:118
Cybertron Megatron is 32 feet tall. The Legends toy is 3.25 inches tall, for a 1/118 scale.

1:119
The Star Wars ARC-170 fighter has a wingspan of 2260 centimeters, while the toy has a wing span of 19 centimeters. With the toy standing 6 inches tall, the real robot would stand 59 feet 6 inches tall.

1:120
Slingshot (AV-8 Harrier) - 1:120 - 31' 6" in robot mode

1:122
Titanium 3 inch Optimus Prime toy is 7.5 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:123
Cybertron Deluxe Thundercracker is 18cm long, but a real Su-37 Terminator is 2218 cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:123. Since his robot mode stands 13.5 cm tall, this means Cybertron Thundercracker should stand 54 feet tall. Similar numbers could apply to Cybertron Deluxe Skywarp.
Vortex (SH-2G) - 1:123- 32' 3" tall. This also works for his RiD and Universe Repaints.

1:128
Eagle Eye – An actual Saab JAS 39 Gripen is 14.1m long, but the toy is 11cm long.

1:133 (Nearly TT Scale)
Sky Lynx is 28 cm long as a shuttle, but a real space shuttle is 3724 cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:133. With a robot mode of 39 cm (nose to tail), it means Sky Lynx is 170 feet long!

1:135
G2 Windrazor – An actual F-16 is 14.8m long, but the toy is 11cm long. With the robot toy standing 8.5 centimeters tall, Windrazor would stand about 1147 centimeters (37 feet 8 inches) tall.

1:143
Fireflight (F-4 Phantom II) - 1:143 - 39' 10" in robot mode

1:144
At this scale a 6 foot tall human stands about half an inch tall, just for reference.

1:145
G2 Afterburner/Snipe – an F-104 Starfighter is 16.66m long, but the toy is 11.5cm long.

1:147
Air Raid (F-15 Eagle)- 1:147 - 47' 6" in robot mode.

1:150
G2 Terradive – An F-8 Crusader is 16.53m long while the toy is 11cm long.

1:152
Smallest Transformers Convoy toy is 6 centimeters tall, while in the show he stands 30 feet (914 centimeters) tall.

1:157
Machine Wars Megatron toy is 12cm long. An actual F-22 Raptor is 1890cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:157. With a robot height of 10cm this means Megatron stands 51.7 feet tall. This measurement also works for Machine Wars Megaplex, RiD Wind Sheer and Robot Masters Air Hunter.

1:173
G2 Dreadwing (RiD Dreadwind, Robot Masters Gigant Bomber, G2 ATB Megatron) is a B2 Bomber, which is has a 52.12 meter wingspan. The toy has a 30cm wide wingspan, so the scale is a 1:173 scale! With an 18.5cm tall robot mode, Dreamwing stands 104 feet tall - bigger than some gestalts.

1:182
At this scale a 6 foot tall human stands about 1 cm tall, just for reference.

1:192
Supreme Starscream at the head is 48 feet tall. The legends toy is 3 inches tall, for a 1/192 scale.

1:231
Smallest Starscream is 3.3 inches long in jet mode, while a real F-15 is 765 inches long for a scale of about 1/232. This should work for all the Smallest Seekers.

1:232 (Nearly Z scale to model railroaders)
Powerglide's toy in 7 cm long in jet mode. An actual A-10 is 1626 cm long. That's a scale of 1:232. With an 8.5 cm robot mode, Powerglide should stand 64.7 feet tall! This measurement also works for ehobby Bad Boy.

1:265
Silverbolt (Concorde) - 1:265 - 139' 4" in robot mode.

1:310
Astrotrain is 12 cm long as a shuttle, but a real space shuttle is 3724cm long. This gives us a scale of 1:310. With a robot mode of 12cm as well, it means Astrotrain should stand 122 feet tall!

1:312
The Turbo Tank measures 4990 centimeters long, while the toy is 16 centimeters long. This means the 6.25 inch tall toy would be 162 feet 6 inches tall!

1:372
Blast Off - 1:372- 97' 8" tall. This also works for his RiD and Universe repaints.

1:642
Brave Maximus from Car Robots/RiD is said to stand 350 meters tall in the show notes. The toy stands 54.5 cm tall. This means he's 1/642 scale! With Cerebros' toy standing 14.6 cm tall, he would stand 93.7 meters tall.

If you have more for the list, or corrections, let me know.

[Greed]

I wonder what the scale is for Primus and Unicron.

[tvip]

Primus
If you go by Dreamwave Comics, Marvel Comics where seibertron is the size of saturn
Primus toy diameter is 15cm, saturn diameter is 120,536 km that would give you a scale of 1 : 2,008,900,000
Robot toy is 32cm then real robot would be 240,000km high

If you go by the G1 telvishion show where seibertron is the size of earth
Primus toy diameter is 15cm, earth diameter is 40,000km that would give you a scale of 1 : 667,920,000
Robot toy is 32cm then real robot would be 80,000kmkm high

Now unicorn I couldn’t get a good solid size on him he shifts a lot but some say

1000 km dimater the toy diamter is 20cm so a scale of 1 : 5,000,000 toy robot is 36cmtall real robot size 1,750km

40,000 km (earth size diamter) 1 : 200,000,000 real robot size 70,000km
120,000 km (saturn size diamter) 1 : 600,000,000 real robot size 210,000km

dead end reasaning he is the same scale as unicron
toy diamter is 3.5 cm and robot is 5.5cm
1000 km 1 : 5,000,000 diameter 175 km robot

40,000 km (earth size diamter) 1 : 200,000,000 diamter 7,000km robot
120,000 km (saturn size diamter) 1 : 600,000,000 diamter 21,000km robot

[Dr. Caelus]

I'd love to see a photoshopped chart of all the main TFs in a same-scale line-up. It would give you an idea of why the Decepticons were winning the war for so long...

[Scaleface]

Yes, most Autobot cars would stand a mere 14-16 feet tall, sadly. They wouldn't stand half as tall as a seeker.

[Grifter Prime]

How's this?



Just to let you know, the tiny ones are Daniel and Wheelie.

[Scaleface]

Well, that's not accurate at all if you are a Transformers comic reader though. Fortress Maximus is the same size as Ultra Magnus in some comics. Still, a good picture.

I started a scale page for Autobot and Decepticon for my Transformers RPG. I had to pick the heights of characters for the game, and I made the images of them to scale with their height in the game:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mathewign ... obots.html

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mathewign ... icons.html

[Dr. Caelus]

Scaleface, I was tinkering with a size chart to start my new sketch book and needed to know - do the heights you have down mark the top of the character's head, or the highest point on the toy?

It's kind of an issue with the Seekers.

Thanks

[Glyph]

While I don't think you'll get any really useful info by comparing toys to get the characters' actual sizes, there are a couple of interesting images floating around, such as this one from the RPG:




I also have a set of scale guidelines from the '86 movie floating around my hard drive at home - I'll post those up when I get back.

[Dr. Caelus]

I don't think you'll get any really useful info by comparing toys to get the characters' actual sizes.

Thing is, I'm not particularly interested in their canonical sizes. I'm interested in how the roster will look without mass shifting.

That is a spiffy picture though, if a tad cluttered.

[Scaleface]

Scaleface, I was tinkering with a size chart to start my new sketch book and needed to know - do the heights you have down mark the top of the character's head, or the highest point on the toy?

It's kind of an issue with the Seekers.

Thanks

I usually go with the tops of their heads for humanoid robot modes.

[Scaleface]

I also have a set of scale guidelines from the '86 movie floating around my hard drive at home - I'll post those up when I get back.

Do you have the key to this picture? What RPG is it from? An official one or unofficial? My scale pictures are a bit smaller. For instance I had Autobot deluxe cars at about 20 feet, but they range them from 24 to 28 feet tall.

[Scaleface]

I just saw that Cybertron Hot Shot is based on the Chrysler ME Four-Twelve concept car, which is 454 cm long or 178.7 inches long. The Deluxe toy is 14 cm long, so that's a 1/32 scale. He's about 14 cm tall in robot mode too, so he's about 14 feet 11 inches tall.

The toy is 7.5 cm long, so it's 1/61 scale.

[Dr. Caelus]

Scaleface, I was tinkering with a size chart to start my new sketch book and needed to know - do the heights you have down mark the top of the character's head, or the highest point on the toy?

It's kind of an issue with the Seekers.

Thanks

I usually go with the tops of their heads for humanoid robot modes.

Ah, good.

Thanks.

[Scaleface]

I just added information on the Commandos from RiD.

With Ruinations official height being given as 15 meters (49.2 feet) tall, and the toy measuring 25 centimeters tall, the toy would have a scale of about 1/60. This would mean Mega-Octane would stand 11.4 meters (37.4 feet) tall, while the other Commandos would stand about 4.8 meters (15.7 feet) tall.

Funny thing is it means Ruination is about on the same scale as Micro Hot-Shot.

[Scaleface]

Rattrap is described in the show bible as being a 5 foot (152 centimeter) long rat. I'm guessing they were not counting the tail, so that makes his 11 cm long transmetal body 1:14 scale. The 15 cm Beast Machines toy would be 1:10 scale. Timelines Rattrap is 10cm tall so he's 1:15 scale.

Anyone know how long the Basic sized toy and Beast Machines Mcdonalds toy are?

[Scaleface]

Brave Maximus from Car Robots is said to stand 350 meters tall in the show notes. The toy stands 54.5 cm tall. This means he's 1/642 scale!

Rail Racer is said to stand 15 meters tall in the show notes. The toy is 24cm tall. This means he's 1/63 scale.

[Scaleface]

I just added most of the cast of Beast Wars Second to the scales.

Additionally, G1 Darkwing is a Panavia Tornado jet which is 16.72 meters long. The toy is 20cm long. So he's 1:84 scale. Toy robot mode is 17cm tall, so he would stand 14.2 meters or about 46.6 feet tall.

[tech348]

I don't know if any of you guys have seen this. I thought it was interesting.

[Zombie Starscream]

What series is that of? It looks like Armada.

[MegaDave]

What series is that of? It looks like Armada.

Cybertron - really dont liek the show size of the giant planet transformers

[Zombie Starscream]

So the large ones are suppost to be planet sized? What are their names? I have never seen the Cybertron series, so I wouldn't know.

[MegaDave]

no the large ones arent supposed to be planet size tho from the statemet i made i can see the confusion.

In the cybertron series transforers came from differnt planets - one of them was called giant planet. The sizes taht are shown there are the size the appear in the show, the actual toys however are quite a fair bit smaller.
For example, the second tallest on the second picture - menasor, is i the same size class as the red tf infront of him (scourge)

[Exulted Unicron]

How's this?



Just to let you know, the tiny ones are Daniel and Wheelie.

I like how Metroplex...a fracking City only comes up to his knee

[MegaDave]

and how cerebros is bigger than a combiner? - or does he enlarge to becme the head of fort max?