Psychout wrote:Caelus wrote:Anyone else use facebook?
Maybe have we could have 'message walls' on the same page as our HMW News?
Now that is a good idea.
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by Supercollider » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 am
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by Omega Sentinel » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:06 am
Wow. So all I have to do is write a complete facebook application, integrate it into HMW 2 and then combine that with our forum code to solve all the subfaction confilcts.
That's gonna take me a while ladies and gentlemen.
That's gonna take me a while ladies and gentlemen.
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by Burn » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:12 am
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So .... next week then? 
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by Absolute Zero » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:49 am
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Give the man some credit! Tomorrow! 
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by Galvatronus » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:12 am
Omega Sentinel wrote:Wow. So all I have to do is write a complete facebook application, integrate it into HMW 2 and then combine that with our forum code to solve all the subfaction confilcts.
That's gonna take me a while ladies and gentlemen.
Slacker. Like you have something else to work on or something
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by Burn » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:31 am
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Galvatron Prime wrote:Omega Sentinel wrote:Wow. So all I have to do is write a complete facebook application, integrate it into HMW 2 and then combine that with our forum code to solve all the subfaction confilcts.
That's gonna take me a while ladies and gentlemen.
Slacker. Like you have something else to work on or something
He does!
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by War Hammer » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:58 am
Burn wrote:Galvatron Prime wrote:Omega Sentinel wrote:Wow. So all I have to do is write a complete facebook application, integrate it into HMW 2 and then combine that with our forum code to solve all the subfaction confilcts.
That's gonna take me a while ladies and gentlemen.
Slacker. Like you have something else to work on or something
He does!
Gestalts, Triple changers, Masters, Pretenders, minicons, energon powerups,
I swear to god if minicons get implemented into the game i'm going to kick someone in the nuts
I hate those little minicon bastards with a burning passion. I'd rather watch the transformers energon cartoons on constant re-runs 24/7 for the rest of my life than to have to see or hear about those play-school redneck gimps we call the minicons
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by Burn » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:17 am
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So ... you haven't looked at the bio of any of your bots lately then huh?
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by Uncrazzimatic » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:49 am
Maybe it's better if WH doesn't look at the bios... Ignorance is bliss.
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by Absolute Zero » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:58 am
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When he sobers up, he might look. Which last I checked, means he'd never look.
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by LuckytheWonderLlama » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:09 pm
There is another issue with Sub-Faction that needs to be addressed and it is one that has definetly lead to some hard feelings and bitterness at times...
Side Swaping. (Duh-Duh-Duuuuummmmmmmmmm)
How much is this going to be allowed in V2? When it happens the SubFactions tend to get their knickers in a twist.
Side Swaping. (Duh-Duh-Duuuuummmmmmmmmm)
How much is this going to be allowed in V2? When it happens the SubFactions tend to get their knickers in a twist.
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by Edgecrusher » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:27 pm
me personaly as a former founder of the RDD... I think it is quite important to keep subfactions in the game simple reason for it is... it has gotten people in the game to know each other better to find friends within their faction ect. think about shinju s comics back in the days everyone liked them... why? because it was a part of RDD history put down on paper (I wonder if that is ver going to continue) but anyways I think I made my point clear who cares what V2 will bring it might be a way to also reset the do and don'T that both subfactions have done... imo
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by Jeep? » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:57 pm
I should probably chime in here. Better late than never, eh? As one of the founders of the RDD, and thusly, of the whole subfaction movement, you'd probably expect me to be rabidly pro-subfaction, and vehemently opposed to their removal. However, I can and do see both sides of the argument. I'm going to take this from the RDD side though, since it's the only one I have experience with - I don't pretend to speak for the AWC, and this is in no way the official view of the RDD. Just mine.
Probably the biggest gripe about the subfactions is the effect that they can have on the community. Burn said 'segregate', that's a good word to use. And he's right. He's also wrong. Yes, they do segregate the HMW community, to an extent. There's the subfaction's own message board, ours having been created by Nemesis Prime. It's their for a number of reasons.
One, to kick back and relax in a way that simply isn't allowed here. This isn't a slight to Seibertron.com, but merely a statement of fact - with this site's more serious approach, and the PG-13 (that's a European 12 rating, I'm assuming?) tolerance that have been agreed on, a lot of what goes on in Neo Kaon might not be allowed over here. Case in point being the old RDD threads. They were fun, but the level of silliness and the at-times adult humour didn't work here. Which is why they were, understandably, done away with.
Reason two is something which, to be honest, could be achieved on the Decepticon board which is here now, and that's Decepticon game planning. Especially useful in the old tournaments, and probably even more useful once V2 kicks in, planning together is something which the RDD was founded around. The reason this happens off site is pretty simple. It's not that we don't want it on Seibertron.com - merely that when Neo Kaon, our site, was created, there weren't any faction-specific boards here. There wasn't the privacy from prying Autobot eyes. Now that there is, some of us stick to what we have gotten used to. Old habits die hard, I guess.
Reason three is the rebuttal to the 'segregation' concept. Having a smaller number of people doing something together, with a common goal (winning), it's always going to foster a sense of community and belonging. The sheer size of Seibertron.com can scare people when they start - looking at Burn's twenty-thousand-strong post count, or even seeing that mid-range players like myself have several thousand posts each, can really intimidate new players, making the seem like the little fish in a very big frigging pond. And I'm speaking from experience here, as although I started the game in December 2003, it was another few months before I started to post on the message boards - and even longer before I really came out of my shell here. Getting people to know each other in a smaller subfaction removes a lot of that feeling of being 'the new guy', or even one of the hundreds of 'new guys'. You can ask a lot of the subfaction players, knowing a few names around here can greatly help your initial integration on the boards. And games are always more fun when you can interact with the people playing them too.
Probably the biggest gripe about the subfactions is the effect that they can have on the community. Burn said 'segregate', that's a good word to use. And he's right. He's also wrong. Yes, they do segregate the HMW community, to an extent. There's the subfaction's own message board, ours having been created by Nemesis Prime. It's their for a number of reasons.
One, to kick back and relax in a way that simply isn't allowed here. This isn't a slight to Seibertron.com, but merely a statement of fact - with this site's more serious approach, and the PG-13 (that's a European 12 rating, I'm assuming?) tolerance that have been agreed on, a lot of what goes on in Neo Kaon might not be allowed over here. Case in point being the old RDD threads. They were fun, but the level of silliness and the at-times adult humour didn't work here. Which is why they were, understandably, done away with.
Reason two is something which, to be honest, could be achieved on the Decepticon board which is here now, and that's Decepticon game planning. Especially useful in the old tournaments, and probably even more useful once V2 kicks in, planning together is something which the RDD was founded around. The reason this happens off site is pretty simple. It's not that we don't want it on Seibertron.com - merely that when Neo Kaon, our site, was created, there weren't any faction-specific boards here. There wasn't the privacy from prying Autobot eyes. Now that there is, some of us stick to what we have gotten used to. Old habits die hard, I guess.
Reason three is the rebuttal to the 'segregation' concept. Having a smaller number of people doing something together, with a common goal (winning
), it's always going to foster a sense of community and belonging. The sheer size of Seibertron.com can scare people when they start - looking at Burn's twenty-thousand-strong post count, or even seeing that mid-range players like myself have several thousand posts each, can really intimidate new players, making the seem like the little fish in a very big frigging pond. And I'm speaking from experience here, as although I started the game in December 2003, it was another few months before I started to post on the message boards - and even longer before I really came out of my shell here. Getting people to know each other in a smaller subfaction removes a lot of that feeling of being 'the new guy', or even one of the hundreds of 'new guys'. You can ask a lot of the subfaction players, knowing a few names around here can greatly help your initial integration on the boards. And games are always more fun when you can interact with the people playing them too.
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by Supercollider » Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:01 pm
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I agree with JP there. Although I found my feet on the board here before joining the AWC but if it weren't for the AWC board I probably wouldn't have had the gusto to start doing some RP posts here and there.
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by War Hammer » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:33 am
Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
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by Omega Sentinel » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:27 am
Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
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by steve2275 » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:31 am
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BEAT THE PACERS DAMMIT THUNDER
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BEAT L.A.
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BEAT THE PACERS DAMMIT THUNDER
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by Burn » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:34 am
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Omega Sentinel wrote:Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
Doubtful. It's Friday, in a few hours he won't be able to remember much of this week!
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by Uncrazzimatic » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:22 am
Burn wrote:Omega Sentinel wrote:Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
Doubtful. It's Friday, in a few hours he won't be able to remember much of this week!
Then when he sobers up on monday he'll rediscover the minicons and the cycle will start anew.
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by Burn » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:31 am
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Uncrazzimatic wrote:Burn wrote:Omega Sentinel wrote:Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
Doubtful. It's Friday, in a few hours he won't be able to remember much of this week!
Then when he sobers up on monday he'll rediscover the minicons and the cycle will start anew.
It's like a perpetual machine of fun.
FOR US!
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by War Hammer » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:11 am
Burn wrote:Uncrazzimatic wrote:Burn wrote:Omega Sentinel wrote:Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
Doubtful. It's Friday, in a few hours he won't be able to remember much of this week!
Then when he sobers up on monday he'll rediscover the minicons and the cycle will start anew.
It's like a perpetual machine of fun.
FOR US!
Dam you people, how dare you all cast these terrible aspersions on my good name, I can not believe …… oh who am I kidding
Look if your job was as **** as mine you'd all drink like a fish as well.Omega Sentinel wrote:Oh your going to REALLY hate me in a couple of daysWar Hammer wrote:Arrrgggghhhh !!! son of a bitch, minicons !!! on my transformers. A curse on you and your family Omega Sentinel
It could only get worse if you implemented those energon star add-ons things. If that happens I'm flying over there and bringing your Granddad round to your house. Then I'll kick him so hard in the nuts you'll double over in pain
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by Omega Sentinel » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:15 am
He's been dead for 30 years so I doubt he has any nuts left for you to kick. But no worries, there will never be "energon stars" in the game.War Hammer wrote:It could only get worse if you implemented those energon star add-ons things. If that happens I'm flying over there and bringing your Granddad round to your house. Then I'll kick him so hard in the nuts you'll double over in pain
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