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News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:53 pm

My favorite alts mostly have crappy tactics, and aren't available right now.

Tough Land Animal - Wolf. Ram only

Opportunistic Land Animal - I think it's a Fladramon variation. Avoid/Repair

Strong Land Animal - Lion (Ligerjack/Uni Leo Prime) Ram/Strafe

by **Windstalker** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:10 pm

Raphael Prime wrote:So then there will be a total of 4 "Hunter Alts" since of course every faction basically has a different set of alts.

If so, i nominate these two for the Maximals, Windstalker, Zordon, what you guys think?
- Predator alt, with Ram and Avoid.
- Tough land animal, with Ram only.

Those two are fine.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:29 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:My favorite alts mostly have crappy tactics, and aren't available right now.

Lets not overcomplicate this. Try and keep it to a core alt so new hunters can add it when they join you. And when I mention overlap, I only mean that a team shouldn't have more than 1 hunter alt, it dont matter if factions chose the same alt.

And theres still a bunch of you that need to agree to this first.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:40 pm

Psychout wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:My favorite alts mostly have crappy tactics, and aren't available right now.

Lets not overcomplicate this. Try and keep it to a core alt so new hunters can add it when they join you. And when I mention overlap, I only mean that a team shouldn't have more than 1 hunter alt, it dont matter if factions chose the same alt.

And theres still a bunch of you that need to agree to this first.

Aside from the lion alt, they're mostly commons, but I understand.

I also see what you mean about the overlap, and that's a good point. Though there's still the chance that you could end up with the same alt being used multiple times on a team. Pre-reset there was a autobot who ran a team of Lio Convoy alts.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:03 pm

I suppose if a player choses to have multiples they can, but then their opponent will have double the chance of killing them. Their loss.

News Credits: 2 · by **Zordon** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:17 am

Windstalker wrote:
Raphael Prime wrote:So then there will be a total of 4 "Hunter Alts" since of course every faction basically has a different set of alts.

If so, i nominate these two for the Maximals, Windstalker, Zordon, what you guys think?
- Predator alt, with Ram and Avoid.
- Tough land animal, with Ram only.

Those two are fine.

me too already using them for 2 of my guys

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:25 am

So, the question of the week is:
Should all hunters have to add a relevant pre-agreed alt to their teams, and as an initiation game collect a group (7 or 8?) of them from the others?

This can then also be used as a challenge for those you feel who would make good hunters but do not have the time to collect a full 12 man team.

The alt would be chosen from the core lists for each faction, and it would be mandatory for the hunter to have it on the team, and for new hunters to add it.

Comments/suggestions?

We've already got the agreement of all 3 Maximals, AZ and N_V from the Preds and Chronic from the Cons. (above, thanks guys.)

Time for the rest of you to speak up:
neliz
Galvatron Supreme
Halo
InsecticonSlave
Chaoslock
Veep
Redimus
Jeep

Yay or Nay?

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:11 am

I'll go with yay.

News Credits: 3 · by **Darth Trader** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:16 am

Aye, I'm in favor of the idea. I nominate the Hunter-Jaguar alt as one of the alts for the Cons:

Ravage

I think there should be at least 2 though, just so there's at least to tactic sets for people to choose from.

Do you have to kill the opposing hunter's hunter-alt with your hunter alt or will any kill count? I like the idea of having use your Hunter to claim the kill. More challenging and worthy of the title Hunter.

by **neliz** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:31 am

I'll give a big AYE to this idea!

As for an alt-mode, I have no idea. with only one g1 bounty hunter (devcon) it's a bit hard to go for a good alt-mode. though I myself like powerglide but .. that's up to you guys.

by **Halo** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:13 pm

Chronic wrote:
Psychout wrote:The rest of you?

I'll go along with that, suppose any hunter alt would be most logical

What he said. I like the idea.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:51 pm

Thanks guys.

The alts will be chosen by the relevant faction so neliz, you can just choose your 2 from the bot list; the Maximals have already decided on theirs; and the preds and cons will need to decide amongst themselves once they have all agreed to the game.
It can always be changed by agreement later on.

Just waiting for a few more responses now:
InsecticonSlave
Chaoslock
Redimus
Jeep

Then we can work on the specific rules, which should be pretty straightforward.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:55 pm

Psychout wrote:Would a better solution to be that all hunters have to add a relevant agreed alt to the team, and as an initiation, have to collect a group (7 or 8?) of them?

We just pick a core alt for each faction, designate it as the 'hunter alt' and make it mandatory for the hunter to have it on the team.

Opinions please...

Only problem with that is the fact it it's only one selected alt. *Most* of my team is the alt I want them to be, and the onse who arnt have builds I want em to have. Only having one 'hunter' alt per faction increases the liklyhood it'll be an alt some people simply do not want. Maybe if it was two or three, perhaps with a theme (faction leaders perhaps?) it'd work better. Otherwise, I like the idea.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:03 pm

You would have full say in the alt used as its down to you guys to work together to chose it, but there is no reason that you cant have 2 (or 3), but then we run the risk of a team having more than 1 hunted alt which doubles their change of being caught, so its your call.

Just the last 3 to pop in and agree now...

by **The Chronic** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:36 pm

I just relized the Hunter class isn't core to the cons, my vote would have gone to the ravage alt

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:54 pm

The ravage alt (

) is good, I have two of those;
If we want to add a core to the huntable alts, my choice is this:

News Credits: 3 · by **Darth Trader** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:27 pm

Chaoslock wrote:The ravage alt () is good, I have two of those;
If we want to add a core to the huntable alts, my choice is this:

Those two work fine for me.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:42 pm

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Aye, I'm in favor of the idea. I nominate the Hunter-Jaguar alt as one of the alts for the Cons:

Ravage

I think there should be at least 2 though, just so there's at least to tactic sets for people to choose from.

Do you have to kill the opposing hunter's hunter-alt with your hunter alt or will any kill count? I like the idea of having use your Hunter to claim the kill. More challenging and worthy of the title Hunter.

My understanding is that the alts should be core, so new hunters can get them right away if they don't.

And these are really only to designate targets for people who want to claim their hunters licenses starting after we select the alts for the factions. That way, it's more of a challenge for the would be hunters to get their license. If you want to only count kills from your designated hunter alt, that's your perogative.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:12 pm

I didnt realise Ravage wasn't a core, crap. He should be the 'hunter' alt considering his class, shouldnt he? (Shows when I last checked, dont it? lol)

As people wanted a choice, we could go with a single core alt and a relevant alt from the hunter class, assuming the bots/max/pred have a suitable alt they could choose?

The games themselves can be discussed once Jeep and Insecticon give us to ok, as there is the intiation and the challenge games, both dont have to be played the same way.

by **Raphael Prime** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:43 pm

Psychout wrote:As people wanted a choice, we could go with a single core alt and a relevant alt from the hunter class, assuming the bots/max/pred have a suitable alt they could choose?

Maximals have some decent hunter class alts. I actually have two different ones in use currently.

by **xxxpathogenz** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:49 pm

Sorry...life seems to happening...The ravage alt is perfect for the 'cons, and not just because I'm alreday using one. Too bad the predator alt (mechanical panther) doesn't show properly as it has the counter-matching avoid/ram set up and would be a nice second pick. If it has to be core, I'm not picky...fighter, medium car, tank...it's all good. I really dig the idea of only kills from you're hunter alt counting; definitely makes it that much harder and more deserving.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:13 pm

InsecticonSlave wrote: I really dig the idea of only kills from you're hunter alt counting; definitely makes it that much harder and more deserving.

Do not like idea.

1: I earned my hunters license through deploying my team. The Headhunters accept bounties, and they pass them off to the commanders of the teams, if you look at your teams profile, it says you are the commander, not X character. You are the one decided to send your characters after the mark after all.

2: For those who have a specific character in command of their team, they mostly build teams that work together for their backstory. While some people like characters who work counter to their groups benefit (kinda like how a vast majority of the movie decepticons are all about stompy stompy and not thinky thinky) not all of us do.

3: Killing a whole team for a majority of the HMW players is challenging enough. Killing that whole team with 1 specific character isn't going to liven up the hunting, it's going to handicap the hunting. It not so much that it's a bad idea, it's just ineffective with the current bounty selection. If we limited a bounty to 1-2 characters per team per bounty, sure, it works pretty well.

4: While I feel it runs counter to the long (unoffical) history of bounty hunting in HMW, it's ultimately up to the staff to change the offical way the hunts are handled.

5: Unrelated, but if we're going to use the alts of canonical hunters for the heads to be collected by would be hunters, there's going to be a long long list of possible alts just for the Maximals and Predacons.

by **The Chronic** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:31 am

InsecticonSlave wrote: I really dig the idea of only kills from you're hunter alt counting; definitely makes it that much harder and more deserving.

I like this idea, I would nominate Joe Pineapples for the task, but it will be too hard for some people, maybe it should be part of the ranking system -100 points for finesse?

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:47 am

Thanks for dropping in InsecticonSlave, now we're just waiting for the other staff member to appear... what is it about the lesser Mods and uni commitments?

The Chronic wrote:
InsecticonSlave wrote: I really dig the idea of only kills from you're hunter alt counting; definitely makes it that much harder and more deserving.

I like this idea, I would nominate Joe Pineapples for the task, but it will be too hard for some people, maybe it should be part of the ranking system -100 points for finesse?

THE Chronic!? lol.

I think that is the best way to do it, it will score a bonus but cant be mandatory - capturing the new crop of L4's with an L2 will be hard enough as it is.