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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Robogeek1973 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:27 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.
Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.
i think the disappointment is from the lack of forearm integration. if you look at hercules (and i think giant?) the legs of the bots (vehicle treads) cleverly become the forearms. but personally ive never had hard feelings towards parts-forming.


Exactly, Hercules got it right.

Giant had his forearms partsform, but I believe you can at least DO something with them other than just set them aside.

I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.
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Postby Seibertron » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:30 pm

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Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:30 pm

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What if it isn't Devastator? Might be swamp gas. Or the light reflecting off of Venus. Or Big Foot.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:32 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.


Or like the original G1 Constructicons ...

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:33 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:What if it isn't Devastator? Might be swamp gas. Or the light reflecting off of Venus. Or Big Foot.


With the fact that we're getting nothing but vague images, he might as well be Bigfoot! 8-}
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:34 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Robogeek1973 wrote:Well I'm bummed then if the forearms aren't part of the individual bots, because this is a no purchase for me if that's the case.

There's no reason why Bonecrusher and Scavenger can't have legs that fold out into forearms for limb mode, so I'm holding out hope that the forearms are indeed part of the arm bots somehow.
Why cant hasbro just be doing this to play up the G1 homage? The other combiner war toys, just like their g1 counterparts, didnt include the feet and hands as part of the robots. So why did anyone expect anything different with devastator? This is a just a bigger more articulated and detailed version of the G1 toy, same for the other combiners. But nothing more than that.
i think the disappointment is from the lack of forearm integration. if you look at hercules (and i think giant?) the legs of the bots (vehicle treads) cleverly become the forearms. but personally ive never had hard feelings towards parts-forming.


Exactly, Hercules got it right.

Giant had his forearms partsform, but I believe you can at least DO something with them other than just set them aside.

I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.
There's another factor to consider here: The budget. 3rd party toys have done so much with their goods, but they often do so because of the insane amount of money they put into those things. It isn't just the limited production that makes those items so expensive, it's also because they're very expensive to make. Hasbro's obviously going to be more economic with their products and use a much lower budget than what third parties use. If that means having to go the G1 route of lacking the kind of forearm integration that Hercules has, then there's not much to be done about it. Best we can hope for if that is the case is that the forearms aren't rendered just useless chunks of kibble when not in the combiner mode and that there's some use to be had of them for the individual figures, like if they become weapons for them like the hands/feet do for the Aerialbots and Stunticons.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby prjkt » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:35 pm

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Herc's originally design had the forearms made from the vehicle treads, but the addon kit replaced that with separate parts for more G1 accuracy.

The forearms on Giant are basically designed as towable generators, so not integrated into the vehicles, but still displayabe with them (towed by the leg bits however)

Not fussed if Generations Devastator has separate forearms or not, I'm just looking forward to the release
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Robogeek1973 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:35 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:I suppose if this guy DOES have forearms that come off, I wouldn't be as down on them if they at least became weapons or something like the other CW bots.


Or like the original G1 Constructicons ...

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:36 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:What if it isn't Devastator? Might be swamp gas. Or the light reflecting off of Venus. Or Big Foot.


With the fact that we're getting nothing but vague images, he might as well be Bigfoot! 8-}



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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Rated X » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:38 pm

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Rated X wrote:If mixmaster doesnt have a purple barrel, we riot !!! ;)


It looks like you won't need to riot, Rated X!!!

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It looks promising. Larger than what I was hoping for. But it should be a fun figure. I think Hasbro might have chose the large height so MP collectors can display him too. Just my theory.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:41 pm

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Rated X wrote:If mixmaster doesnt have a purple barrel, we riot !!! ;)


It looks like you won't need to riot, Rated X!!!

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby shajaki » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:41 pm

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Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:What if it isn't Devastator? Might be swamp gas. Or the light reflecting off of Venus. Or Big Foot.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:49 pm

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If you look at Devastator's sides you can see Scavenger's purple treads up against his side like the original. It looks like they're used to connect him to the main body. His hip joints give his arm mode the outward pivot you see in the picture. Since the forearms will certainly be weapons like with the other Combiner Wars figures I have no problem with the legs being given this function. It should be more interesting to see how they pull off that same range of motion with Bonecrusher.

In the new pictures it's clear that Mixmaster really is upside down, so strange, hope they have a good reason for that. Does look like he has a purple barrel, though.

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:54 pm

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About Mixmaster being the wrong way, it may be that he's just mistransformed. Happens all the time.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Hammer » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:55 pm

i wonder how Hasbro would feel about the $50 on offer?
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby dragons » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:56 pm

Should have used camera with lens for better quality picture looks good cellphones suck take pictures from more than 1 foot away
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:59 pm

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Actually, another possibility is that it's not a transforming Devastator, and is instead a full action figure, like that Giant Action Scorponok.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:00 pm

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Hammer wrote:i wonder how Hasbro would feel about the $50 on offer?


Just trying to have some fun, Hammer, and get all of us a decent picture of Devastator. I thought the $50 offer was a nice gesture to someone who wanted to provide us with a picture. Offering a fee for photos of upcoming highly desired figures is something I've wanted to do for a long time but it hasn't been until Combiner Wars Devastator that I've seen such an incredible amount of interest in one particular figure or set. If Hasbro asks me to stop with that practice, I'll be happy to comply. But in the meantime, Seibertron.com is a business and I'm just looking for an upper hand on our competition much like much of the news media that offers payments for photo exclusives. Offering a fee for a photo that we want is very fair to those who take their time and effort to share photos from events overseas that we are currently not attending.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby dragons » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:01 pm

william-james88 wrote:About Mixmaster being the wrong way, it may be that he's just mistransformed. Happens all the time.

No he's not mistransformerd read on another site that's how his foot mistransformerd or
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Postby Emerje » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:05 pm

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william-james88 wrote:About Mixmaster being the wrong way, it may be that he's just mistransformed. Happens all the time.


I can't even begin to guess why it would have an attachment point at both ends to even make that possible. Let alone that you can see the "foot" is bent a bit for stability just like Scrapper.

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:05 pm

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william-james88 wrote:About Mixmaster being the wrong way, it may be that he's just mistransformed. Happens all the time.

No he's not mistransformerd read on another site that's how his foot mistransformerd or
Not.

Would some people still buy it if it was mistransformerd


What?! How would anyone know if the foot is transformed correctly or not, no one got to actually transform it! I am not saying I am right, but saying that anyone is absolutely correct about a figure no one has played with is nonsensical.
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Postby Cobotron » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:14 pm

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william-james88 wrote:About Mixmaster being the wrong way, it may be that he's just mistransformed. Happens all the time.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:15 pm

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Hammer wrote:i wonder how Hasbro would feel about the $50 on offer?


Just trying to have some fun, Hammer, and get all of us a decent picture of Devastator. I thought the $50 offer was a nice gesture to someone who wanted to provide us with a picture. Offering a fee for photos of upcoming highly desired figures is something I've wanted to do for a long time but it hasn't been until Combiner Wars Devastator that I've seen such an incredible amount of interest in one particular figure or set. If Hasbro asks me to stop with that practice, I'll be happy to comply. But in the meantime, Seibertron.com is a business and I'm just looking for an upper hand on our competition much like much of the news media that offers payments for photo exclusives. Offering a fee for a photo that we want is very fair to those who take their time and effort to share photos from events overseas that we are currently not attending.


And besides, it isn't like there aren't a few hundred paid photographers there already. ;)

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:18 pm

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Hammer wrote:i wonder how Hasbro would feel about the $50 on offer?


Just trying to have some fun, Hammer, and get all of us a decent picture of Devastator. I thought the $50 offer was a nice gesture to someone who wanted to provide us with a picture. Offering a fee for photos of upcoming highly desired figures is something I've wanted to do for a long time but it hasn't been until Combiner Wars Devastator that I've seen such an incredible amount of interest in one particular figure or set. If Hasbro asks me to stop with that practice, I'll be happy to comply. But in the meantime, Seibertron.com is a business and I'm just looking for an upper hand on our competition much like much of the news media that offers payments for photo exclusives. Offering a fee for a photo that we want is very fair to those who take their time and effort to share photos from events overseas that we are currently not attending.


And besides, it isn't like there aren't a few hundred paid photographers there already. ;)

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