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[YoungPrime]

Seriously? If Windblade can take down Combiners that easily, then why are they a huge threat in the first place?

THIS!!!!

I saw Windblade taking off Manassor's Arm with her Sword and immediately got turned off... I'm loosing a lot of faith in this show. Not that I really had much to start.

[YoungPrime]

Really? Not this video crap again.

But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!

Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"

*Shudders with revolution*

Well...she wants to kill all combiners. Maybe she just made anti-combiner weapons to help with that?

I honestly think that's what Hasbro believes we want to see. Trust me if it wasn't her being forced down our throats then it would've been Bumblebee. Why?

Because Hasbro are idiots that why! Remember they had a station all to themselves and we all know how that turned out. So their input in this show isn't turning out to be much better.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Really? Not this video crap again.

But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!

Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"

*Shudders with revolution*

I was really confused when I saw this quote wondering what the hell I said and when.

Now I get it. the video not working for other counties hence "video crap."

And yeah, kinda a bit overpowered she is, at least I think so

[Sabrblade]

There's something else about the animation I feel is worth mentioning, but it's something that might make folks re-think their positive opinions about it. We were told previously that the animation for this would be in an anime style. Upon watching the video, I kept that in mind and at first thought "This doesn't look like an anime at all. It looks like a normal cel-shaded CGI Western cartoon."

BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"

That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

[Decepticon Stryker]

There's something else about the animation I feel is worth mentioning, but it's something that might make folks re-think their positive opinions about it. We were told previously that the animation for this would be in an anime style. Upon watching the video, I kept that in mind and at first thought "This doesn't look like an anime at all. It looks like a normal cel-shaded CGI Western cartoon."

BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"

That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.

[Sabrblade]

I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.

Yes yes, we know there's animation out there as bad as Food Fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Energon-grade animation is still bad.

[Decepticon Stryker]

I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.

Yes yes, we know there's animation out there as bad as Food Fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Energon-grade animation is still bad.

Thank you for not making me say the title to that abomination. I die a little every time I say it. But yeah, mouth movement is Energon-like, but the rest looks rather good in my opinion. Yes it's kinda sluggish, but still better than Energon.

[YoungPrime]

I see Maxima fighting Menasor, but I don't see her anywhere else in the trailer. I hope they don't pull a "Cliffjumper" and kill her off before we get to know her.

P.S. Starscream sounds more like his G1 character, why so mad, and Windblade has been murder crazy in the comics before and at least she's not like her RID counterpart.

"Murder crazy"?

Her and Chromia together couldn't even beat Starscream in Windblade Vol. 1. Now they have her chopping off Combiner limbs..... Defend this all you like but if that wasn't some type of dream sequence or "danger room battle". I might be done with this show before it even starts.

The Developers of this show should know better.

[Sabrblade]

The Developers of this show should know better.

Ah, but, see, the creators of this series had a similar goal in mind to that of the creators of the Prime cartoon, but whereas the Prime creators set out to make that show as "epic" as possible, this show's creators set out make this show as "bad-A-double-S" as possible. It is evident from what we've seen of this show so far where their priorities lay.

[YoungPrime]

The Developers of this show should know better.

Ah, but, see, the creators of this series had a similar goal in mind to that of the creators of the Prime cartoon, but whereas the Prime creators set out to make that show as "epic" as possible, this show's creators set out make this show as "bad-A-double-S" as possible. It is evident from what we've seen of this show so far where their priorities lay.

Oh God, I hated that show! It was basically 23 minutes of Power Ranger Optimus and friends slaughtering scores of Putties I'm mean Decepticon drones.

[Kurona]

Windblade definitely was not murder-crazy in the slightest. You have read the comics, right? Seen her reaction to Starscream killing Chela?

[william-james88]

Jeez the animation looks beautiful, but it is so chopy it irritates my eyes. Look, we know it's 3d, so can we stop the practice of ditching frames to try and make it look like traditional animation? It feels like watching a clip on a bad connection, not quite buffering but not running smooth either. Hopefully the official release will look better, but there are a lot of animated shows that handle cg this way so I'm worried.

I think you mean the design and look of the show is good, but the animation itself is the movement and fluidity and that part isnt beautiful. I feel the same way as you. When I saw the transformation it looked like stop motion. Then again, if this had full backing and budget of a modern show (like Prime or RID) then it wouldnt have been relegated by a web series not even handled by third party production company.

BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"

That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

It did feel animé-ish to me in the way there is a lack of frames (like the stop motion, slow mo feel), or how they will have a static image move against the background. And you talk of Cybertron but its not eve there, Cybertron had very fluid transformation sequences (the best ever, to me). Too bad they were never against an actual show background though

[Kurona]

And you talk of Cybertron but its not eve there, Cybertron had very fluid transformation sequences (the best ever, to me). Too bad they were never against an actual show background though

Hey, at least they had a nice clean background to make the sequences easier to use as a replacement set of instructions

[william-james88]

And you talk of Cybertron but its not eve there, Cybertron had very fluid transformation sequences (the best ever, to me). Too bad they were never against an actual show background though

Hey, at least they had a nice clean background to make the sequences easier to use as a replacement set of instructions

[Sabrblade]

Voice cast and production crew - http://collider.com/transformers-combiner-wars-trailer/

VOICE TALENT

• ANNA AKANA, Victorion. With her 1.8M followers across YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram, Akana is a social media powerhouse. As an actress, she has had roles in Marvel’s Ant Man, Hello, My Name is Doris, and Freeform’s The Fosters.
• JON BAILEY, Optimus Prime. Otherwise known as the “EpicVoiceGuy,” Bailey is perhaps most recognizable as the current narrator of Honest Trailers.
• CHARLIE GUZMAN, Menasor. Known best to his 2.6M YouTube subscribers as, “DashieGames,” Guzman has made a career out of gameplay videos. He’s built his impressive fan base by taking games like Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart, and adding comedic commentary to his gameplay.
• RICKY HAYBERG, Computron. Ricky is an actor, writer, and the host for Machinima’s franchise show, ETC.
• AMY JOHNSTON, Maxima. Best known for her work with the production company, Bat in the Sun, Johnston has also cameoed in Machinima’s recent Street Fighter: Resurrection series.
• JASON MARNOCHA, Megatron. Marnocha is an actor and writer known best for his work on Throne of Atlantis, Deathstroke: Arkham Assassin, and Justice League War Abridged.
• LANA MCKISSACK, Mistress of Flame. McKissack is perhaps most well known for her YouTube channel, thanks to her comedy sketches. She also has an extensive list of acting credits that includes Four Rooms, The Magic Pearl, and The Passing.
• BEN PRONSKY, Rodimus Prime. Pronsky is a voice actor with various TV and video game credits. He’s provided the voice to characters in shows like Aldnoah.Zero, and Magi: The Kingdom of Magic, and for games such as Dynast Warriors 8 and D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die.
• PATRICK SEITZ, Devastator. With over 200 credits to his name, Seitz has provided voices for a variety of well-known films, TV shows, and video games. His work includes Inside Out, Monsters University, and Resident Evil: Damnation.
• FRANK TODARO, Starscream. Todaro is a voice actor with various video game credits. They include Shardlight, Technobabylon, and LittleBigPlanet 1 & 2 where he was the voice of the Buzz Lightyear.
• ABBY TROTT, Windblade. Trott is a voice actress with credits that include the TV series The Seven Deadly Sins and Miss Monochrome, as well as the video game Killer Instinct.

CREATORS

• ERIC CALDERON, Executive Producer. With over 20 years in animation, Calderon has developed more than a dozen animated TV series, including Afro Samurai with Samuel L. Jackson on SpikeTV.
• GEORGE KRSTIC, Head Writer. Krstic’s 20+ year writing and producing career has spanned comedy and action animation with big franchises like Clone Wars and Speed Racer, as well as stylish originals like MTV’s Downtown and The Five Killers. He is also the creator of the Cartoon Network series Megas XLR and writes for comics and major video game titles.
• FJ DESANTO, Writer. As a long itme development and production executive, Desanto has played an integral role in the Batman franchise and for films like Constantine and The Spirit. He has also served as a writer for DC Comics, Boom Studios, Archaia Entertainment, and Shopro Books. Desanto currently serves as President and Head of Development for Silver Fox Entertainment.
• TATSUNOKO PRODUCTION Japanese production company, Tatsunoko, serves as one of the legendary story-telling forces in Japanese anime and hero culture. They’re known for creating worldwide classics such as Speed Racer and Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets).

So, on the voice acting side, it's mostly YouTube people, minor actors, Jon Bailey, and Patrick Seitz.

And Tatsunoko happens to have done one Transformers cartoon series previously: Sanjou Gattai Transformers Go!, the cartoon whose TFs had zero mouth movement.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So there are only 3 combiners? That's.... kinda lame

[Sabrblade]

So there are only 3 combiners? That's.... kinda lame

Four. Victorion, Menasor, Computron, Devastator.

At least, four who have speaking roles, that is. Others could appear with no dialogue.

[Kurona]

It's not so much a combiner war as much as it is a combiner playground scuffle.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So there are only 3 combiners? That's.... kinda lame

Four. Victorion, Menasor, Computron, Devastator.

At least, four who have speaking roles, that is. Others could appear with no dialogue.

We've seen Wheeljack in the trailer, yet he's not credited here. He might not have any lines.

forgot one, sorry.

But really though, where are the rest? Can you really have a true combiner war without 3 big guys like Superion, Defensor, and Bruticus? And who knows, maybe Optimus will become a combiner again here and Jon Bailey can voice a combiner and Prime all in one go

[Sabrblade]

But really though, where are the rest?

Others could appear with no dialogue.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

But really though, where are the rest?

Others could appear with no dialogue.

What I was more hoping for was some sort of idk say sneak peak at them, maybe showing up in the background like Devastator did...

[Sabrblade]

What I was more hoping for was some sort of idk say sneak peak at them, maybe showing up in the background like Devastator did...

They're not gonna show us everything in our first look at the series. They need to have some things kept as surprises. What we saw in both the trailer and the SDCC clip were plenty sneak peaky.

[DeadCaL]

Eeesh, that voice acting

[King Kuuga]

I see Maxima fighting Menasor, but I don't see her anywhere else in the trailer. I hope they don't pull a "Cliffjumper" and kill her off before we get to know her.

Based on that SDCC clip, this might be exactly what happens. Hello and goodbye, all-new character.

So yeah. The clip is nice, but Menasor needs more bass in his voice. These big, titanic guys should sound the part. Windblade is OP and vengeful as f***. The combiners better have some magical healing powers or this fight's gonna be over before it begins.

The cast.... mostly YouTube people. I mean, yay for them getting a break, but it's not really lending credibility to the production.

I hope it's even half as good as I'd initially hoped.

[Bronzewolf]

Seibertronians, we have another Machinima Designer video, similar to the Victorion-centered one we reported on a few days ago straight from the official Transformers instagram. This time it's on the topic of everyone's favorite (not so) jolly green giant, Devastator! The video, embedded below, confirms Devastator will have a part in the show, and his design seems to be based off of the Combiner Wars iteration. Check it out!






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