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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:41 pm

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The three writers producers credits:

Eric Calderon (Primetime Emmy Nominee) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1643748/
FJ De Santo - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1858702/
George Krstic - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355577/?ref_=rvi_nm


Just going from what I'm hearing from the web until correction that's all.

Interesting way to live life. Hopefully that changes when you get kids and wonder if they should be vaccinated or not ;)

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:41 pm

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Kurona wrote:A lot of awful things have great names working on them. Great team =/= great product.


Not saying it could of been perfect and I never thought we were getting the holy grail of Transformers media in the first place.


But I expected much better I would rather this have been a paid for product then a free one because we know usually stuff you have to pay for are better quality.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:41 pm

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Dr Va'al wrote:AAAAARRGHGHGHGHRHGOERgajpjaàrjpbkoàsRFGKPÈs§bkeot, §vbkR


?

If they were able to get those guys onto the show then why is this show still awful as sin?

It's worse then Energon and that's saying something

A lot of awful things have great names working on them. Great team =/= great product.

:lol: Like Heaven's Gate! Or Movie 43.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:45 pm

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Dr Va'al wrote:For reference: the IMDB credit pages for the entire cast,
Bigger list of the cast and crew. ;)


So basically, after episode 2 we have heard everyone's voice who is involved? *except Devastator* Or is this only a list of VA's that have been released because they don't want to give away any spoilers?

So I guess any chance at an actual Combiner War (like in the first minute of episode 1) Isn't going to happen? Or will they just be voiceless entities, mindless instruments of destruction?

Why do I have this sinking feeling that Victorion and/or Winblade are going to cut through all the combiners like tissue paper if they show up at all....this is just not what I was hoping
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:46 pm

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Wonder where Victorion will fit into this?

Almost halfway and still only 2 combiners to show up. Bit disappointing there. Would have hoped for more by now.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:49 pm

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Kurona wrote:A lot of awful things have great names working on them. Great team =/= great product.


Not saying it could of been perfect and I never thought we were getting the holy grail of Transformers media in the first place.


But I expected much better I would rather this have been a paid for product then a free one because we know usually stuff you have to pay for are better quality.


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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:51 pm

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jON3.0 wrote:I'm still thrilled and honored to be officially working on my favorite franchise and I've always supported the franchise in good times and bad so it continues. There's a few things I wished I could talk about but being under legal constraint prevents me from discussing it on public forums. I did the job I was given to do as it was given me to do and those in charge are happy. As long as the bosses are happy, I'm happy.


Jon...any chance you can get a word in edgewise for a TF:TM 30th anniversary Honest Trailer? It would be a couple weeks late, but better late than never
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:00 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Interesting way to live life. Hopefully that changes when you get kids and wonder if they should be vaccinated or not ;)


Don't plan on having kids or a marriage just saying I want to get my own life on track before anything like that.


If I did I probably wont get my kids vaccinated unless they wanted to because I did not get vaccinated myself when I was a kid due to extreme fear of needles (which I still have) and I'm pretty much fine and I don't get sick often.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:01 pm

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Just saying how things usually are on our planet I'm not trying to be arrogant I'm stating facts.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:01 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Lynaxx_Pax » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:04 pm

1984forever wrote:I like Windblade as a Nail trying to prevent more war, though the duel was meh.

The good thing is that this series brings Hasbro one step closer to the realization that only a G1 reboot can bring this franchise back to it's former glory.

Leeeet's not be too hasty here. Reboots have a can be very tricky to do right and have a tendency to, well, sour the franchise. I mean, Just look at the powerpuff girls, teen titans GO, and Primus help us, Adult party cartoon :SICK: Given the current agreement with Hasbro and Cartoon Network, a G1 reboot may go down the same path as the former two
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Postby o.supreme » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:15 pm

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Lynaxx_Pax wrote:Reboots have and can be very tricky to do right and have a tendency to, well, sour the franchise. I mean, Just look at the powerpuff girls, teen titans GO, and Primus help us, Adult party cartoon :SICK: Given the current agreement with Hasbro and Cartoon Network, a G1 reboot may go down the same path as the former two


I know it would, That's why one of my requirements would be that CN have absolutely nothing to do with it.


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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:04 pm

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Have to say, this episode was a tad disappointing. Not for the voices (I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're doing a good job Jon) but for the fight scene. It felt like it was there with a few grunt and groans just to highlight the animation.

And that seems to be the emphasis of this series, forget the story, forget the VA's who are getting a shot, lets show off our fancy animation.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:05 pm

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Burn wrote:Have to say, this episode was a tad disappointing. Not for the voices (I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're doing a good job Jon) but for the fight scene. It felt like it was there with a few grunt and groans just to highlight the animation.

And that seems to be the emphasis of this series, forget the story, forget the VA's who are getting a shot, lets show off our fancy animation.

Which, all things considered, is pretty shoddy animation.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:10 pm

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Kurona wrote:Which, all things considered, is pretty shoddy animation.

I don't mind it. >:oP
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:21 pm

Tyrannacon wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:
Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.

I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.


Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.


This kind of comment is uncalled for. Criticism of the series is fine, but insults towards cast, creators, or other people involved is not welcome here.

Not to mention that quite a few of them -are- qualified actors/actresses.


Thanks Va'al and Kurona. I appreciate the help here.

Anyone that performs in any kind of work produced for entertainment (professionally/independently) is considered to be playing a part which is very much defined as acting. Even parts with no lines and in the background is "acting" actually. Whether or not people are doing it for big budget or no budget, and still are playing a part is acting. They are actors whether professional or independent here. It's a role they are playing and that's what acting is loosely defined as.

What I said wasn't a mistake though, and frankly I am troubled by your lack of respect here regarding people that are trying to entertain others, such as us. That's a hard thing to do for even seasoned people. You can have issues with the performance of course, but lacking respect almost personally for the people behind it when you didn't like their ability isn't exactly a good attitude itself. It is basically an ad hominem attack against these people and that's not good.


OH get over yourself. The fact is none of them are professionals. None of them and the performance they gave is proof of it. You don't have to agree with me (But you'd be crazy not too), but my opinion on it is my opinion.

I have zero respect for talentless hacks who are taking money and work away from REAL voice actors who would have given us a FAR better performance.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:26 pm

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Galactic Prime wrote:
Tyrannacon wrote:
Kurona wrote:
Dr Va'al wrote:
Galactic Prime wrote:
Tyrannacon wrote:I don't think/feel her performance was the issue to me personally. I think the issue here is more how the character was used than how the actor portrayed the character and how she was performed though. Take the actress who did the line's for the Mistress of Flame character, I feel her performance was particularly wooden and no feeling in. Like the lines were just being read with nothing behind them, but then I wonder if it is simply just part of the character.

I'm definitely trying to reserve my major judgement until I've seen the whole thing in entirety. I don't mind reading and talking about first impressions though.


Your first mistake here is calling these people actresses, they aren't professionals. These people Machinima used are all Facebook losers with no Voice Talent or professional work.


This kind of comment is uncalled for. Criticism of the series is fine, but insults towards cast, creators, or other people involved is not welcome here.

Not to mention that quite a few of them -are- qualified actors/actresses.


Thanks Va'al and Kurona. I appreciate the help here.

Anyone that performs in any kind of work produced for entertainment (professionally/independently) is considered to be playing a part which is very much defined as acting. Even parts with no lines and in the background is "acting" actually. Whether or not people are doing it for big budget or no budget, and still are playing a part is acting. They are actors whether professional or independent here. It's a role they are playing and that's what acting is loosely defined as.

What I said wasn't a mistake though, and frankly I am troubled by your lack of respect here regarding people that are trying to entertain others, such as us. That's a hard thing to do for even seasoned people. You can have issues with the performance of course, but lacking respect almost personally for the people behind it when you didn't like their ability isn't exactly a good attitude itself. It is basically an ad hominem attack against these people and that's not good.


OH get over yourself. The fact is none of them are professionals. None of them and the performance they gave is proof of it. You don't have to agree with me (But you'd be crazy not too), but my opinion on it is my opinion.

I have zero respect for talentless hacks who are taking money and work away from REAL voice actors who would have given us a FAR better performance.


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Dr Va'al wrote:For reference: the IMDB credit pages for the entire cast, so everyone can stop jumping on the oh so easy bandwagon of 'it's just YouTubers/Facebookers' (whatever that means). They are all, ALL, voice actors. Maybe not long-established, but all professionals. Do they also produce content on YouTube? Yes. So does Steve Blum. So does Tara Strong. Give up.

Abby Trott, Windblade: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7583837/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t1
Anna Akana, Victorion: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4331196/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t2
Amy Johnston, Maxima: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1829217/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t5
Frank Todaro, Starscream: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0865092/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t6
Lana McKissack, Mistress of Flame: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0572001/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t7
Ben Pronsky, Rodimus Prime: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1408690/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t8
Patrick Seitz, Devastator: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1365137/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t9
Jon Bailey, Optimus: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3929163/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t10
Jason Marnocha, Megatron: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4645694/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t11

The only 'lesser known' are the voices of Computron (Ricky Hayberg) and Menasor (Charlie Guzman).
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:32 pm

o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote:We already got a G1 reboot. It was called Transformers Animated and I'm not joking. Legitimately was the closest thing to a reboot the G1 cartoon and I still miss that series after 8 years.


I don't think I've read a more incorrect comment in a long...long time....and its scarier that others believe that.


Actually the scary thing is your comment. His was 100% correct.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:34 pm

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Those "real" voice actors? They were nobody at some stage. Kudos to Machinima for giving a leg up to people trying to get into the business.

Or do we just hatch fully qualified professionals from little space eggs now?
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Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:46 pm

william-james88 wrote:I dont think there is something wrong with a Mary Sue character per se, if its done well. For exmample Rey from The Force Awakens is a Mary Sue and there is nothing wrong wtih that. She's a strong female who can handle her own. Windblade is on another level though, filled with angst, just a ball of anger.


Tell me you didn't write that as a serious statement? Rey is fine as a Mary Sue? LOL.... I just have to let that go, but speaking of Galvatron level of crazy....
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Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:51 pm

jON3.0 wrote:I'm still thrilled and honored to be officially working on my favorite franchise and I've always supported the franchise in good times and bad so it continues. There's a few things I wished I could talk about but being under legal constraint prevents me from discussing it on public forums. I did the job I was given to do as it was given me to do and those in charge are happy. As long as the bosses are happy, I'm happy.


I must have to look up happy again, apparently I've been wrong... Because I must be happy given how bad the series is.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:55 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Voice cast and production crew - http://collider.com/transformers-combiner-wars-trailer/

VOICE TALENT

  • ANNA AKANA, Victorion. With her 1.8M followers across YouTube, Twitter, and Instagram, Akana is a social media powerhouse. As an actress, she has had roles in Marvel’s Ant Man, Hello, My Name is Doris, and Freeform’s The Fosters.
  • JON BAILEY, Optimus Prime. Otherwise known as the “EpicVoiceGuy,” Bailey is perhaps most recognizable as the current narrator of Honest Trailers.
  • CHARLIE GUZMAN, Menasor. Known best to his 2.6M YouTube subscribers as, “DashieGames,” Guzman has made a career out of gameplay videos. He’s built his impressive fan base by taking games like Grand Theft Auto and Mario Kart, and adding comedic commentary to his gameplay.
  • RICKY HAYBERG, Computron. Ricky is an actor, writer, and the host for Machinima’s franchise show, ETC.
  • AMY JOHNSTON, Maxima. Best known for her work with the production company, Bat in the Sun, Johnston has also cameoed in Machinima’s recent Street Fighter: Resurrection series.
  • JASON MARNOCHA, Megatron. Marnocha is an actor and writer known best for his work on Throne of Atlantis, Deathstroke: Arkham Assassin, and Justice League War Abridged.
  • LANA MCKISSACK, Mistress of Flame. McKissack is perhaps most well known for her YouTube channel, thanks to her comedy sketches. She also has an extensive list of acting credits that includes Four Rooms, The Magic Pearl, and The Passing.
  • BEN PRONSKY, Rodimus Prime. Pronsky is a voice actor with various TV and video game credits. He’s provided the voice to characters in shows like Aldnoah.Zero, and Magi: The Kingdom of Magic, and for games such as Dynast Warriors 8 and D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die.
  • PATRICK SEITZ, Devastator. With over 200 credits to his name, Seitz has provided voices for a variety of well-known films, TV shows, and video games. His work includes Inside Out, Monsters University, and Resident Evil: Damnation.
  • FRANK TODARO, Starscream. Todaro is a voice actor with various video game credits. They include Shardlight, Technobabylon, and LittleBigPlanet 1 & 2 where he was the voice of the Buzz Lightyear.
  • ABBY TROTT, Windblade. Trott is a voice actress with credits that include the TV series The Seven Deadly Sins and Miss Monochrome, as well as the video game Killer Instinct.

CREATORS

  • ERIC CALDERON, Executive Producer. With over 20 years in animation, Calderon has developed more than a dozen animated TV series, including Afro Samurai with Samuel L. Jackson on SpikeTV.
  • GEORGE KRSTIC, Head Writer. Krstic’s 20+ year writing and producing career has spanned comedy and action animation with big franchises like Clone Wars and Speed Racer, as well as stylish originals like MTV’s Downtown and The Five Killers. He is also the creator of the Cartoon Network series Megas XLR and writes for comics and major video game titles.
  • FJ DESANTO, Writer. As a long itme development and production executive, Desanto has played an integral role in the Batman franchise and for films like Constantine and The Spirit. He has also served as a writer for DC Comics, Boom Studios, Archaia Entertainment, and Shopro Books. Desanto currently serves as President and Head of Development for Silver Fox Entertainment.
  • TATSUNOKO PRODUCTION Japanese production company, Tatsunoko, serves as one of the legendary story-telling forces in Japanese anime and hero culture. They’re known for creating worldwide classics such as Speed Racer and Gatchaman (Battle of the Planets).

So, on the voice acting side, it's mostly YouTube people, minor actors, Jon Bailey, and Patrick Seitz.

And Tatsunoko happens to have done one Transformers cartoon series previously: Sanjou Gattai Transformers Go!, the cartoon whose TFs had zero mouth movement. :P


So, exactly what I said before, a bunch of no talent hacks from YouTube....
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby hinomars19 » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:57 pm

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Burn wrote:Those "real" voice actors? They were nobody at some stage. Kudos to Machinima for giving a leg up to people trying to get into the business.

Or do we just hatch fully qualified professionals from little space eggs now?


Don't be silly Burn, they are sent to us by God, y'know? And all those skills they have? Given to them by God.

Or would you suggest regular people, with aspirations and dreams as youngsters, set out to learn a skill, acquire and temper talent, then struggle tirelessly, climbing ladder after ladder, ever higher, until finally being noticed and getting that first job that puts them at the attention and approval of the people?

Say it ain't so :shock:

OK, about the series, I only watched ep 1 and it was on mute. I need to find some time to sit down with it. The animation, for what it is, seemed OK, but I do have issues with Windblade just slicing combiners in half. In terms of world building, it doesn't make much sense to have a character that strong just hanging around.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Galactic Prime » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:59 pm

Deadput wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Interesting way to live life. Hopefully that changes when you get kids and wonder if they should be vaccinated or not ;)


Don't plan on having kids or a marriage just saying I want to get my own life on track before anything like that.


If I did I probably wont get my kids vaccinated unless they wanted to because I did not get vaccinated myself when I was a kid due to extreme fear of needles (which I still have) and I'm pretty much fine and I don't get sick often.


People who don't get vaccinated put the rest of us at risk, thanks for being a part of the problem :)
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