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Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Scattershot's not out yet.Starsaber468 wrote:An someone fan mode the alt mode it a lobster ish thing
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Huh?Starsaber468 wrote:An someone fan mode the alt mode it a lobster ish thing
ScottyP wrote:I thought I might like this. I don't. Nothing I've seen about these toys makes me really care about them. Ramhorn looks neat. The other four just exist.
Any Beast Wars mega-fans just totally stoked by this set? I like Beast Wars, but don't love it so much as to pore over all the content like I know some do. Curious what the take on these is from that perspective.
ScottyP wrote:Any Beast Wars mega-fans just totally stoked by this set? I like Beast Wars, but don't love it so much as to pore over all the content like I know some do. Curious what the take on these is from that perspective.
G.B. Blackrock wrote:I'm still not quite understanding this concept, presented a couple of times now, of the Tripredacus guys (and their allies) as on a different side than the Predacons. It seems to me that they ARE the Predacons (or, at least, their leaders) and always have been. This is speculative, to be sure. I'm just not seeing where any suggestion that the Tripredacus folks had to wrest control away from some other Predacons as any less speculative.
(By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Megatron and his Predacons were rebels vs. the "main" Predacons of Beast Wars-era Cybertron. This is, I think, firmly established. Thus, any on-screen machinations by the Tripredicus Council against Megatron's Predacons in no way establishes them as opposed to Predacons, in general.)
G.B. Blackrock wrote:I'm still not quite understanding this concept, presented a couple of times now, of the Tripredacus guys (and their allies) as on a different side than the Predacons. It seems to me that they ARE the Predacons (or, at least, their leaders) and always have been. This is speculative, to be sure. I'm just not seeing where any suggestion that the Tripredacus folks had to wrest control away from some other Predacons as any less speculative.
(By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Megatron and his Predacons were rebels vs. the "main" Predacons of Beast Wars-era Cybertron. This is, I think, firmly established. Thus, any on-screen machinations by the Tripredicus Council against Megatron's Predacons in no way establishes them as opposed to Predacons, in general.)
Bed Bugs wrote:G.B. Blackrock wrote:I'm still not quite understanding this concept, presented a couple of times now, of the Tripredacus guys (and their allies) as on a different side than the Predacons. It seems to me that they ARE the Predacons (or, at least, their leaders) and always have been. This is speculative, to be sure. I'm just not seeing where any suggestion that the Tripredacus folks had to wrest control away from some other Predacons as any less speculative.
(By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Megatron and his Predacons were rebels vs. the "main" Predacons of Beast Wars-era Cybertron. This is, I think, firmly established. Thus, any on-screen machinations by the Tripredicus Council against Megatron's Predacons in no way establishes them as opposed to Predacons, in general.)
The box set is literally called "Rise of the Predacus"
They can't rise if they are at the top from the beginning.
william-james88 wrote:G.B. Blackrock wrote:I'm still not quite understanding this concept, presented a couple of times now, of the Tripredacus guys (and their allies) as on a different side than the Predacons. It seems to me that they ARE the Predacons (or, at least, their leaders) and always have been. This is speculative, to be sure. I'm just not seeing where any suggestion that the Tripredacus folks had to wrest control away from some other Predacons as any less speculative.
(By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Megatron and his Predacons were rebels vs. the "main" Predacons of Beast Wars-era Cybertron. This is, I think, firmly established. Thus, any on-screen machinations by the Tripredicus Council against Megatron's Predacons in no way establishes them as opposed to Predacons, in general.)
Yes, megatron and his crew are rebels. On Cybertron, Predacons and Maximals are at peace with oneanother though they dont really get along. I always found it kind of mean how Rattrap and Cheetor hated predacons and talked of them like they were second class citizens (they even had racial slurrs and catchphrases).
And yes, the pradacus counsil was always simply Predacons, but higher ups.
Bed Bugs wrote:Plus, this guy just said it right here. Maximals and Predacons are at peace. Who is the Tripredacus Council going to fight then?
G.B. Blackrock wrote:Bed Bugs wrote:Plus, this guy just said it right here. Maximals and Predacons are at peace. Who is the Tripredacus Council going to fight then?
Well, it is canonically demonstrated the the Council is plotting for the Predacons to take power over the Maximals in the Beast Era itself. They need not be in open warfare to have conflict sufficient for a story.
(As to "who else"? I've already given a possibility in my previous post)
Bed Bugs wrote:G.B. Blackrock wrote:Bed Bugs wrote:Plus, this guy just said it right here. Maximals and Predacons are at peace. Who is the Tripredacus Council going to fight then?
Well, it is canonically demonstrated the the Council is plotting for the Predacons to take power over the Maximals in the Beast Era itself. They need not be in open warfare to have conflict sufficient for a story.
(As to "who else"? I've already given a possibility in my previous post)
You honestly believe a Combiner isn't going to be used in open warfare?
Bed Bugs wrote:I just think that it's very unlikely that a group that is able to combine, especially in a Botcon set, and especially because the combined forms head will be remolded, that we won't see the combiner in action fighting something.
The council isn't going to lower itself to combine with their 2 agents because they enjoy it. They are going to need to do it to fight something that is just as strong.
That scene with Razorclaw took place many years later from the rest of the comic's setting, in the far future post-Beast Machines, even after the Universe War (it'd kinda have to take place there since the Universe War began very shortly after Beast Machines).Bed Bugs wrote:Now I'm starting to wonder. At the end of the Botcon 2006 comic, we seen Botcon Razorclaw and his new batch of Predacons as those in charge of Laserbeak and Buzzsaw.
Megatron's crew were a bunch of criminals while the Tripredacus Council are a governing body of politicians. All Predacons, but with differing agendas. The Council already had their own longterm plans of taking back Cybertron from the Maximals, but Megatron's crew took matters into their own hands, which was illegal even by Predacon standards, which is why Ravage was sent to arrest Megatron for defying the terms of both the Pax Cybertronia and the Predacon Alliance.G.B. Blackrock wrote:I'm still not quite understanding this concept, presented a couple of times now, of the Tripredacus guys (and their allies) as on a different side than the Predacons. It seems to me that they ARE the Predacons (or, at least, their leaders) and always have been. This is speculative, to be sure. I'm just not seeing where any suggestion that the Tripredacus folks had to wrest control away from some other Predacons as any less speculative.
(By the way, I'm going under the assumption that Megatron and his Predacons were rebels vs. the "main" Predacons of Beast Wars-era Cybertron. This is, I think, firmly established. Thus, any on-screen machinations by the Tripredicus Council against Megatron's Predacons in no way establishes them as opposed to Predacons, in general.)
No it isn't. Kindly read the title of this thread, which is visible at the top every post.Bed Bugs wrote:The box set is literally called "Rise of the Predacus"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Thus far there's only been Cyclonus.Wheeljack808 wrote:So by a show of emoticons, who is really sick of the silverbolt retools?
I AM!!!!!!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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