Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present.
Balking? Dude, this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to.
Look at the Liokaiser set they did. The few names that they changed were only changed because they couldn't use names that had "Hell", "Kill", and "Death" in them at retailers, and were only changed just enough to try to still keep true to the original names as much as possible.
Ergo, they wouldn't just randomly change "Ginrai" to something as wildly un-Ginrai-like as "Magnus Prime" if they wanted him to be Ginrai.
Allow me to clarify my point: Names like "Guyhawk" and "Drillhorn" are Japanes-continuity names, but they're still
English-sounding. Ginrai, not so much. Of course, as you have pointed out this was originally planned as a "extensive Ultra Magnus recolor" and not "Slight Ginrai recolor" which would suggest A. the toy was more likely supposed to be {i]Delta[/i] Magnus than UM, OP, or Ginrai and B. once again the people writing the box bios are being ignorami who probably struggle to write their names or tie their shoelaces. And thus, between that and the drastic design change, the bio on the box has even less to do with the actual character in the box than Cybertron Mudflap's box bio.
Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.
Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.
But only as a surrogate name for Hi-Q because trademark reasons (same reason TR Octane is called Octone on the packaging). The box still labels the main attraction as "Powermaster Optimus Prime". The only instance of a Hasbro-made toy using the Ginrai name and really meaning the main toy as a version of Ginrai is the Botcon one.
Sabrblade wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce,
Except that that guy stuck permanently to the name "God Ginrai" and never reassumed any of his other robot mode configurations, maintaining his God Ginrai configuration as his new default robot form, which the Magnus Prime bears little resemblance to and more like that of Super Ginrai, a form that was only ever assumed by the human Godmaster.
More importantly, the newly-living God Ginrai didn't have a detachable little companion anymore, being a singular whole Transformer from that point on.
A singular whole transformer who I'm pretty sure transformed to vehicle mode now and then and thus still had the cab robot even if it never operated on its own (and I'm pretty sure that all the recoloring of the TM signifies -if it signifies anything, it could just be a symptom of mold layout + Hasbro cheapness- is an homage to the separate "small Optimus Prime" cab robot of the original toy, after all, what would be the American basis to change it from
Hi-Q"Autobot Apex"?)
As an additional note, American-continuity Ginrai-the-Robot obviously has a different history from his Japanese-continuity counterpart.
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do the Attempted Base mode like Black Convoy's but i'm sure Takara will do the same though, sad 
