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[Carnivius_Prime]

Oh that's right! So, I just don't know why they decided to not do hot rod in his flame decor..I'd love to know the reason for that...my biggest question about the movie designs. The figure is actually quite nice.

Cos it would look tacky on an extremely expensive modern day Lamborghini. Maybe he'll pop up in the 80's in a Trans-Am alt-form where a flame decal wouldn't look totally out of place.


Anyways quite happy with my Hot Rod, now where's my darn Wave 3 Bee for crying out loud?

[Duke of Luns]

Ummm...isn't there a hinge so it folds back in between the 2 feet? The shoulder cannons and neck assembly hinge forward, the the neck assembly has its own separate hinge to rotate the head back in between the feet. Not that I care, I've already lost the head and replaced it with Thunderwing.

I thought that's what the instructions indicated. I'll fiddle with it here...

Oh, and the assembly popped out. Least now I can see the hinge, and after some more finagling...

Ah, there we go, got it! Thanks! Tight hinge there on mine.

[Immortal Starscream]

So I amazingly found a Voyager Skorn and Nitro Zeus(still no Wave 2 Deluxes in North Central West Virginia...), and I must comment about my initial impressions of Nitro Zeus....

The design is really cool, knew about the transformation because of a couple comments fiddled with it and think I've got the hang of it except for one thing..

THE HEAD. Is it just supposed to be wedged in the space between the feet in vehicle mode? The instructions show you turning it around and doing...something. Why is this guy a Headmaster anyway, because they got to a certain point in the design and said "Uh, we don't have the budget to engineer a hinge or other place to put the head...hmmm....let's just pull it off!". Of course the head is also very loose in robot mode, but manageable.

The reason hes a headmaster is pretty much the same thing that happened before with revenge of the fallen arcee. something that was intended to happen in the movie that got scrapped, but was still engineered into the toy. Back when they were talking about cogmans character they said he was a headmaster, but more like the headmaster from animated. he was going to have a scene where he ripped off another robots head and took its place. It was never stated who's head he was supposedly going to be ripping off, and it never ended up happening in the movie, but given hes the only other TLK toy designed for the headmaster gimmick, but his head itself doesn't transform, Id'e say its a good bet Nitro was to be the victim.

side not, TM Megatron's head is a perfect match for nitro, and makes for one badass megs.

[Quantum Surge]

Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.

[TF-fan kev777]

Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.

Probably not without some type of shapeways adapter. The ball on the other side of the TM head is quite a bit smaller than the ball used on most non-TM heads. In fact, I'm guessing you can get an adapter that has the right size "cube" for a TM head on one side and the right size ball for the non-TM figure heads on the other.

[Sabrblade]

Speaking of Nitro, amyone else plan to give him Shockwave's head? I want to buy a DOTM Shockwave for spare parts and I've been wondering if you can remove the Titan Master head and put it in the ball joint socket on SW's head.

If I were you, I'd wait on doing that first to see if Takara might do something just like that for a potential Movie the Best version of Nitro.

[Qwan]

On the topic of Nitro and his loose neck, I played around with it last (k)night to see if I could do anything to remedy it. Compared to most TR neck sockets it's a tricky one, since it's pretty much empty all round it and it's hard to tell what space needs to be left empty and what doesn't (I spent 10 minutes trying to fit a piece of credit card behind the neck socket before realizing that his head occupies all the way to the back of the socket). In the end, I came up with:

- 2 pieces of credit card (or similar-thickness plastic) on one side of the neck socket, 3 pieces on the other; 3 on each side is too much and the head can't fit in, 2 on each side does nothing at all
- a small snip of regular printer paper, folded over itself 3 times, in the front of the neck-socket; it'll curve a bit to fit in front of the "latch" at the front of the socket, but that's the way it'll work

It doesn't seem like it'll work looking at it, but it does - his head turns smoothly and easily, with little to no wobbling! I haven't actually tested any TR heads with the 'fixed' neck socket but I see no reason they wouldn't work - his own head can definitely still go off and on without difficulty.

Here's a quick pic of what I mean, if my words don't make any sense (which of course they don't):


Here's what you can see when the head's on, doesn't look too bad:


And bonus extra shot of Nitro posed a little awkwardly, for no reason other than I like this toy and it's fun:

[D-Maximal_Primal]

My Nitro has had no issues with his head staying on, not sure why you guys are having issues

[Qwan]

My Nitro has had no issues with his head staying on, not sure why you guys are having issues

No issues with it actually staying on on my end, just wobbling around like crazy (we're talking Scourge/Highbrow levels of wobble here, if not more). It didn't interfere with the functionality of the toy honestly, more like it just annoyed me enough that I didn't mind spending an hour or so to get this otherwise-cool toy working the way I wanted

[chuckdawg1999]

The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

[-Kanrabat-]

When Cogman finally appear in store, I'll be sure to grab one or even two. I don't care if I have to pay the full 30$+TX each.
That guy could be scalped like no tomorrow.

[Quantum Surge]

The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)

[chuckdawg1999]

The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)

You can keep one with the gun arm and the other normal to transform. I remember how excited people were for the limb-swapping gimmick when we saw the leaked instruction scans, not so much now.

[Qwan]

The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)

You can keep one with the gun arm and the other normal to transform. I remember how excited people were for the limb-swapping gimmick when we saw the leaked instruction scans, not so much now.

Why they didn't just do a regular 5mm peg or something (like Figma-style) is beyond me. If you're gonna have a part-swapping gimmick, design the parts so they can be swapped without stressing or deteriorating anything; if you really feel like you need the security of a mushroom-peg joint, consider finding a different way to do the gimmick or just drop it altogether, either is probably better than a compromise that ends up not working properly. Admittedly I don't know what restrictions they had to work with or what led to the final decision, but from a layman's perspective, you'd think it'd be toy design 101 to not make your gimmicks wreck themselves or the toy over time.

[chuckdawg1999]

The gun arm on Wave 3 Bee will loosen over time, it's just a mushroom peg. What I recommend with Nitro's head is rotating it then pushing it back, lifting the small panel slightly BEFORE bringing the whole neck section forward, as seen in my video review. His head is loose but holds in quite well.

Might as well buy two. With the 3 pack coming soon (or the Movie the Best release with the hammer), I wouldn't mind having two copies of the same mold (probably should do the same with Cogman, Nitro Zeus, etc.)

You can keep one with the gun arm and the other normal to transform. I remember how excited people were for the limb-swapping gimmick when we saw the leaked instruction scans, not so much now.

Why they didn't just do a regular 5mm peg or something (like Figma-style) is beyond me. If you're gonna have a part-swapping gimmick, design the parts so they can be swapped without stressing or deteriorating anything; if you really feel like you need the security of a mushroom-peg joint, consider finding a different way to do the gimmick or just drop it altogether, either is probably better than a compromise that ends up not working properly. Admittedly I don't know what restrictions they had to work with or what led to the final decision, but from a layman's perspective, you'd think it'd be toy design 101 to not make your gimmicks wreck themselves or the toy over time.

"Over time" has never been or will be a concern for toy designers. Once it's out of their hands and has been bought they don't care anymore.

[william-james88]

Fellow Seibertronian Epsilon Delta posted images on the Arizona sightings of a beautifully stocked Toysrus store in Goodyear, filled with the latest toys and exclusives. We can see Leader Dragonstorm from Transformers: The Last Knight in the images and it is the first time we were told of his appearance in the US. So for those who are interested in this new age Duocon, he is out there!

[DeathReviews]

It says something that the movie is already out of theaters, but they still don't have all the figures on shelf. Not having the movie on the big screen may truncate casual buyers from wanting to pick up any related figures...

[Terrsolpix]

It says something that the movie is already out of theaters, but they still don't have all the figures on shelf. Not having the movie on the big screen may truncate casual buyers from wanting to pick up any related figures...

Thank Primus. Maybe I’ll finally have a chance at getting something new for once.

[william-james88]

It says something that the movie is already out of theaters, but they still don't have all the figures on shelf. Not having the movie on the big screen may truncate casual buyers from wanting to pick up any related figures...

I think there is also the idea of having the figures available for when the film hits Home Video so that cross marketting can happen on that level. And I am seeing Walmarts having new spotlights on these toys with the home release on the way. Ninja Turtles and Dispicable Me also worked that way with the toys.

Anyways, lets have a laugh:

via Imgflip Meme Generator

[Terrsolpix]

It says something that the movie is already out of theaters, but they still don't have all the figures on shelf. Not having the movie on the big screen may truncate casual buyers from wanting to pick up any related figures...

I think there is also the idea of having the figures available for when the film hits Home Video so that cross marketting can happen on that level. And I am seeing Walmarts having new spotlights on these toys with the home release on the way. Ninja Turtles and Dispicable Me also worked that way with the toys.

Anyways, lets have a laugh:

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Good news. Grimlock stopped shelfwarming (near me at least). Bad news. Hound started shelfwarming, and stores knew megatron would sell.......

[Quantum Surge]

Went to check out a Target at Rosemont, IL when my dad and I went to check out Megadeth at the Allstate Arena. The omly new things I found were Allspark Tech figures, the 1 step 6 pack, and the sound masks. Nothing from Wave 2, just Berserkers and Dinobot repaints (do I need to mention them?), and two Leader Primes and Megs (but no Voyagers of them). Very disappointing. Thankfully, I do have plans for a Dreadbot custom (and to get a second spike club since my copy was missing one), so Beserk will be useful again for now.

Also William-James88 noce pic, but let's not forget about Slash and Berserker joing Grimlock. Woody's as frustrated as I am with distribution lol!

[EunuchRon]

I broke down and ordered Steelbane and Sqweeks online. I got tired of looking. I wanna buy local but man they're making it hard to do.

[Terrsolpix]

I broke down and ordered Steelbane and Sqweeks online. I got tired of looking. I wanna buy local but man they're making it hard to do.

I bet you 10 internet points the next Walmart you go to has them.

[william-james88]

Also William-James88 noce pic, but let's not forget about Slash and Berserker joing Grimlock. Woody's as frustrated as I am with distribution lol!

[homicide]

I found Dragonstorm today myself at a Toys R Us in Henderson, NV!