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Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:12 am

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Well, I was able to take my mind of not being able to get Nemesis Prime without an Amazon Prime membership by finding the last three Terrorcons at Walmart on the way home from work! As a bonus, I even found a MAGA-less Jazz too. The part that sucks, though, is that Sinnertwin came missing one of his alt mode feet. It's the part that swings around from the wrists on his robot mode arms to complete his front dragon legs. The left arm has it, but the right one doesn't. It wasn't in the package or on the floor, in the couch cushions...it just was never there. So, now I'm going to have to hunt down another Sinnertwin and replace the faulty one. :(

On the bright side, I was still able to put Abominus together, and he looks FANTASTIC! :)

RiddlerJ wrote:Gotta be honest. Even if I did get this Primal, that cardboard throne probably will go in the trash.


I rather like it. We don't get a lot of "set pieces" for Transformers. I've got the pop-up Autobot Ark from that SDCC G1/Age of Extinction Dinobot set from several years back. I have to find some room to display that one of these days. By the way, is anyone else planning on putting Optimal Optimus elsewhere and sitting Power of the Primes Optimus Prime on that throne instead?
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:36 am

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Amazon Prime Day will be flooding with last-minute buyers and scalpers... Do I chance it? :-s
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Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:15 am

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Hmm...if he's available on the UK store I may get him, depending on cash at hand.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Rodimus Knight » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:21 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Amazon Prime Day will be flooding with last-minute buyers and scalpers... Do I chance it? :-s


One the plus side, it says Prime day is Launch Day, so I'm sure it'll be available after it as well.
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Postby no-one » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:36 am

Nemmy's back up on Amazon ;)^
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Gender Variation in Power of the Primes Legends Cindersaur's Prime Cards

Postby Qwan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:50 am

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While we don't normally report on minor differences between auxiliary items like collectable cards, and while it has been some time since this detail was observed, it's still something interesting enough to warrant a mention. In the process of obtaining the various cards detailing Wave 3 Legends Cindersaur's Prime-based power-ups, collectors have noticed that different cards in the set address the character with different-gendered pronouns.

Cards of the "Alpha Trion Cindersaur" variety address Cindersaur as a 'she', while the Micronus cards instead use a male pronoun. It appears that all other cards in the set use either gender-neutral pronouns or simply omit them altogether, making for a 50/50 balance of genders in this Cindersaur figure's current fiction, insofar as it can be considered such.

Whether this "running change" of sorts is intentional on Hasbro's part or not will probably never be known for certain, but either way it makes for some interesting speculation - be it on the real-life end leading to this interesting situation, or in-fiction explanations including the welcoming of Cindersaur into genderfluid circles. Regardless, it's definitely one of the more unexpected occurrences to spawn from the dwindling 'bio-style' pack-in fiction in recent years!

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Qwan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:58 am

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Here's something interesting I found while looking into this: it has been suggested that the reason for this variation is that whoever wrote the bios for the cards forgot the change the gender on a Slash card from female to male for Cindersaur, or something along those lines. But while Micronus Slash uses a female pronoun and Micronus Cindersaur uses male, supporting this theory, Alpha Trion Slash's card makes no mention of gender at all. Meaning that (even if the idea of altering cards between retools is how the process works, which I doubt anyway) the change to male pronoun for Micronus and the addition of female pronoun for Alpha Trion were both "intentional", insofar as neither one was accidentally left unaltered or anything like that.

Just an interesting supplemental fact, that didn't really have a spot to go in the article proper :D
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Quantum Surge » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:00 am

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I feel like it was carried over from Slash by mistake, given how Cindersaur is a repaint of that character.
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Postby Qwan » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:07 am

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Quantum Surge wrote:I feel like it was carried over from Slash by mistake, given how Cindersaur is a repaint of that character.

Well, that's just the thing - see my extra note above. The Alpha Trion card that addresses Cindersaur as a 'she' refers to Slash neutrally, meaning that whether or not that's how the cards work, it was intentionally added for Cindersaur's. It seems like an obvious explanation but the more I look into it, the curiouser it becomes!
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby It Is Him » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:18 am

Cindersaur is gender fluid. It’s official now.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:23 am

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Stop. STOP. STOP.

This isn't Allspark, and "gender fluid" is not a thing. Don't encourage that harmful crap.
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Postby Evil Eye » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:25 am

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Egads, the throne does not look good. The rest of the set looks great though and I kinda want it.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby truegrit » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:30 am

It Is Him wrote:Cindersaur is gender fluid. It’s official now.


This seems appropriate

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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby RiddlerJ » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:13 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:Gotta be honest. Even if I did get this Primal, that cardboard throne probably will go in the trash.


I rather like it. We don't get a lot of "set pieces" for Transformers. I've got the pop-up Autobot Ark from that SDCC G1/Age of Extinction Dinobot set from several years back. I have to find some room to display that one of these days. By the way, is anyone else planning on putting Optimal Optimus elsewhere and sitting Power of the Primes Optimus Prime on that throne instead?


If the throne was plastic, I'd love it, but a flimsy cardboard thing that takes up a lot of space while looking like a cardboard cutout isn't going to make it.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:19 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:By the way, is anyone else planning on putting Optimal Optimus elsewhere and sitting Power of the Primes Optimus Prime on that throne instead?
"Thrones are for Decepticons. Besides, I'd rather roll." --Optimus Prime.

:P
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Randomhero » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:34 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:By the way, is anyone else planning on putting Optimal Optimus elsewhere and sitting Power of the Primes Optimus Prime on that throne instead?
"Thrones are for Decepticons. Besides, I'd rather roll." --Optimus Prime.

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Primal will be knocked off that throne and Galvatron will be put on it with the scepter in one and and a battle axe at his side. Might even use Titan master heads of Optimus, megatron, Rodimus and others in place of the prime master slots
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:46 am

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If one wanted to, one could pretend that the little Matrix Prime Master is an incarnation of Primal Prime since Primal Prime himself was a living incarnation of the Matrix.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby ScottyP » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:54 am

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Quantum Surge wrote:I feel like it was carried over from Slash by mistake, given how Cindersaur is a repaint of that character.
Wouldn't be the first mix up
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Counterpunch » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 am

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Black Hat wrote:Stop. STOP. STOP.

This isn't Allspark, and "gender fluid" is not a thing. Don't encourage that harmful crap.


You can have an opinion that you can deliver respectfully.

Try discussing the issue and see how other people view it before closing the door to empathy.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby budmaloney » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:02 am

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I like the throne, it's a clever use of packaging that people won't throwout. It's just odd to me seeing the Optimal Optimus body in Primal's original scheme. I haven't bought OpOp yet, but I think the matrix on this one would be a better fit with OpOp, the blue one just looked odd and clashed. Though tbh I've been out of the POTP line especially the evolution.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Evil Eye » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:05 am

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Counterpunch wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Stop. STOP. STOP.

This isn't Allspark, and "gender fluid" is not a thing. Don't encourage that harmful crap.


You can have an opinion that you can deliver respectfully.

Try discussing the issue and see how other people view it before closing the door to empathy.

No. There is no discussion to be had. That's about as much "respect" as you're getting from me on that issue.

I'll say no more on the matter solely because you're an admin, but make no mistake, I'm not happy about seeing that kind of deviant drivel here.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby no-one » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:05 am

Sabrblade wrote:If one wanted to, one could pretend that the little Matrix Prime Master is an incarnation of Primal Prime since Primal Prime himself was a living incarnation of the Matrix.
I like the cut of your jib good sir.

That is one PM I'd like to get my hands on. :BOOM:
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Happy Miracle » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:06 am

Black Hat wrote: and "gender fluid" is not a thing.


I mean, it is, whether you like it or not.

Don't encourage that harmful crap.


Sorry, hi, I'm new. I just wanted to put forward that as someone who spends time with a lot of people who identify as queer, trans, genderfluid and all of that is that the thing which is consistently 'harmful' are the attitudes, behaviours, and violence which seek to deny and punish anyone who doesn't meet conform to a binary experience of gender.
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby Sigma Magnus » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:06 am

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Since I'm genderfluid myself, this was neat to see. I wonder if any future authors will make reference to it :D
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Re: Transformers Power of the Primes Leaks, Rumours, Reveals, and More

Postby It Is Him » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 am

Black Hat wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Stop. STOP. STOP.

This isn't Allspark, and "gender fluid" is not a thing. Don't encourage that harmful crap.


You can have an opinion that you can deliver respectfully.

Try discussing the issue and see how other people view it before closing the door to empathy.

No. There is no discussion to be had. That's about as much "respect" as you're getting from me on that issue.

I'll say no more on the matter solely because you're an admin, but make no mistake, I'm not happy about seeing that kind of deviant drivel here.



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