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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 pm

PerfectVision wrote:Weapon close to the head is a very bad idea in réality,same for the chest made of glass,i suppose it's their vision in véhicule form.


I mean, when it comes to transformers, the glass used on them doesn't seem to be as frail as real glass. An :BOT: could take a hit from a :CON: without their glass breaking. It took Megatron several hits to actually crack the glass on Prime's windshield in the G1 movie, let alone break it. I know that's Prime & Megatron, but other characters in every continuity usually never have their glass broken, and if they do, it's usually a battle to the death, or at the very least, near-death.

Following that logic, it doesn't seem a transformer would be damaged having a weapon close to the head. They wouldn't have their hearing processors damaged, they wouldn't gain any joint damage (at least in-universe, real toys do.), they wouldn't usually be shunted back by the blast, and I couldn't really think of any other repercussions from using a shoulder cannon.

But as I say this, I'm talking about a toy-line that revolves around the paint aps and molding making the characters beaten to all hades, so... :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:12 pm

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I just figure that Transformers "glass" follows the Star Trek explanation of "transparent aluminum."
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:34 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:I just figure that Transformers "glass" follows the Star Trek explanation of "transparent aluminum."


Yup, it's alien glass. It just somehow works. :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby PerfectVision » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:22 pm

starrhero wrote:
PerfectVision wrote:Weapon close to the head is a very bad idea in réality,same for the chest made of glass,i suppose it's their vision in véhicule form.


I mean, when it comes to transformers, the glass used on them doesn't seem to be as frail as real glass. An :BOT: could take a hit from a :CON: without their glass breaking. It took Megatron several hits to actually crack the glass on Prime's windshield in the G1 movie, let alone break it. I know that's Prime & Megatron, but other characters in every continuity usually never have their glass broken, and if they do, it's usually a battle to the death, or at the very least, near-death.

Following that logic, it doesn't seem a transformer would be damaged having a weapon close to the head. They wouldn't have their hearing processors damaged, they wouldn't gain any joint damage (at least in-universe, real toys do.), they wouldn't usually be shunted back by the blast, and I couldn't really think of any other repercussions from using a shoulder cannon.

But as I say this, I'm talking about a toy-line that revolves around the paint aps and molding making the characters beaten to all hades, so... :-?


Then,we have the sonic weapon in PRIME,but none of them use weapons close to head.Soundwave and Shock are ugly by the way,the last has never looked like a scientist but a war machine,the cannon arm is illogical but maybe i must consider his design as an ironic joke.
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Takara Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Japanese Releases for April 2019.

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:32 pm

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Thanks to our usual source for Japanese listings such as these, Loopaza Mega Store, we've now got listings of the Transformers Siege releases for Japan in April 2019!

There are five releases in total:

SG - 15 Aimless 900 yen
SG - 16 Soundwave Spy Patrol 1,800 yen
SG - 17 Ironhide 3,500 yen
SG - 18 Six-Gun 3,500 yen
SG - 19 Starscream 5,500 yen

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:35 pm

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I think Prowl looks off because his chest looks overly wide in those photos.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Grahf_ » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:29 pm

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Is it just me or are those deluxe and voyager prices a little too high?

Legends voyagers were going for about 4190 yen while deluxes were going for 3040 yen. And those were the ones that came with extra targetmasters and headmasters. So what's the deal here? Even the double pack of little guys seem a little high too since legends sized legends figures were 1520 yen and came with a headmaster.

Or is this normal now and I just haven't noticed since I haven't paid attention to mainline Takara prices since the "unification".
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:18 pm

Motto: ""There is no fate, no destiny, only your will.""
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Considering the Legends Target Masters came with their partners I find it funny they are now getting individual releases over there for inferior versions of what they already have. :SG-CONS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:14 pm

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:Considering the Legends Target Masters came with their partners I find it funny they are now getting individual releases over there for inferior versions of what they already have. :SG-CONS:

To be fair, there's no reason not to release them, the molds are paid for so might as well see what they can get with them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:34 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
OK, with these upcoming releases, we can make some safe predictions as to who is in which wave for the US. To start of, let's list all JP releases by Size Class:

Battle Masters
SG-01 Firedrive
SG-02 Lionizer
SG-08 Blowpipe
SG-15 Aimless

Micro Masters
SG-03 Race Car Patrol
SG-09 Battle Patrol
SG-10 Air Strike Patrol
SG-16 Soundwave Spy Patrol

Deluxe Class
SG-04 Sideswipe
SG-05 Cog
SG-11 Skytread
SG-12 Autobot Hound
SG-17 Ironhide
SG-18 Six-Gun

Voyager Class
SG-06 Optimus Prime
SG-13 Megatron
SG-19 Starscream

Leader Class
SG-07 Ultra Magnus
SG-14 Shockwave

Wave 1 is already pretty much known, so let's see who's left for Wave 2:

Battle Masters
Aimless
Pteraxadon
Smashdown

Micro Masters
Soundwave Spy Patrol
Autobot Rescue Patrol

Deluxe Class
Ironhide
Six-Gun
Chromia
Prowl

Voyager Class
Starscream
Soundwave

Leader Class
Shockwave

That leaves Brunt, Refraktor, Red Alert and Barricade for Wave 3 and later.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:46 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
Wireless_Phantom wrote:Considering the Legends Target Masters came with their partners I find it funny they are now getting individual releases over there for inferior versions of what they already have. :SG-CONS:

To be fair, there's no reason not to release them, the molds are paid for so might as well see what they can get with them.

Well of course i just think it's a little bit funny
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Fires_Of_Inferno » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:40 pm

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Yep, my wallet is gonna be running dry when these come out. Between studio series, bots bots g1 reissues, and these... oh yeah.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:17 am

Motto: ""A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller."
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What I'd really like to see now is some good scaling shots of the Siege figures. How tall is Ironhide next to Optimus Prime, or Hound? I'm hoping that we get some good variance in height in each size class, a la the Studio Series, so even though characters like Ironhide and Ratchet are only "Deluxe" figures, they could be larger than the "average" Deluxe, like say, Sideswipe or Prowl. I also want to see how these figures compare in size to earlier Generations figures. I'm hoping the increased price point translates into a little more size back after the downscaling from T30 and the Prime Wars Trilogy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:29 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
Wolfman Jake wrote:What I'd really like to see now is some good scaling shots of the Siege figures. How tall is Ironhide next to Optimus Prime, or Hound? I'm hoping that we get some good variance in height in each size class, a la the Studio Series, so even though characters like Ironhide and Ratchet are only "Deluxe" figures, they could be larger than the "average" Deluxe, like say, Sideswipe or Prowl. I also want to see how these figures compare in size to earlier Generations figures. I'm hoping the increased price point translates into a little more size back after the downscaling from T30 and the Prime Wars Trilogy.

Don't get your hopes up :lol: though I suspect we'll be seeing group shots soon enough :)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby PerfectVision » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:12 am

There's no more créativity with their épaulettes,only block,except for Sixgun but it look like it reduce his vision.Does they can watch their feet at least?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:14 pm

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I'd like to see a new Elita-1 in this line. I want to know what her Cybertronian Alt-mode was.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:57 pm

Motto: ""A mountain with a wolf on it stands a little taller."
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Decepticon Stryker wrote:I'd like to see a new Elita-1 in this line. I want to know what her Cybertronian Alt-mode was.


She looks like this:

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She kinda looks like a cross between Blurr and Arcee.

You know, if they could redeco the Titans Return Arcee mold with some more red highlighting and remold the Titan Master face plate, that would make a pretty good Deluxe sized Elita One in my book.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:03 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:I'd like to see a new Elita-1 in this line. I want to know what her Cybertronian Alt-mode was.


She looks like this:

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She kinda looks like a cross between Blurr and Arcee.

You know, if they could redeco the Titans Return Arcee mold with some more red highlighting and remold the Titan Master face plate, that would make a pretty good Deluxe sized Elita One in my book.


Or they could do a new Elita One figure based off of the unused Leader Class Arcee from Potp. Remember, they did say that all of the candidates for Potp's new Prime were already designed, so just take a majority of cues from that (seemingly similar to how Ultra Magnus and Shockwave did if those are the same designs,) and retool it a slight bit to resemble Elita One. It'd be a good way to use a mold and design that would probably never be used, as the idea of a Leader Class Arcee without any explanation would be rather unusual.

They would probably treat her like Shockwave, the smaller, voyager scaled figure is the actual character, while the extra bits that make her a leader are just that, extra bit to help her be more powerful in battle.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Decepticon Stryker » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:49 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:I'd like to see a new Elita-1 in this line. I want to know what her Cybertronian Alt-mode was.


She looks like this:

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She kinda looks like a cross between Blurr and Arcee.

You know, if they could redeco the Titans Return Arcee mold with some more red highlighting and remold the Titan Master face plate, that would make a pretty good Deluxe sized Elita One in my book.
I had completely forgotten that she transformed in that episode. Also, a retooled TR Arcee would be perfect. They would probably rework it so she's not a headmaster since there's no gimmick stuff.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:36 pm

I have NO IDEA how, but Baltmatrix has a WfC Siege Optimus Prime and has reviewed it.

Welp, time to head to the chosen prime. See you guys there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW6XOIrQiiY&t=28s
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:42 pm

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starrhero wrote:I have NO IDEA how, but Baltmatrix has a WfC Siege Optimus Prime and has reviewed it.

Welp, time to head to the chosen prime. See you guys there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW6XOIrQiiY&t=28s

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby starrhero » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:46 pm

william-james88 wrote:
starrhero wrote:I have NO IDEA how, but Baltmatrix has a WfC Siege Optimus Prime and has reviewed it.

Welp, time to head to the chosen prime. See you guys there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW6XOIrQiiY&t=28s

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In Hand Images of Transformers WFC Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:52 pm

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Seibertron.com has some nice exclusive content for you. We got our hands on Transformers War for Cybertron Siege voyagers Optimus Prime and Megatron. So below you will see several in hand images which also includes the back of the box, which we had not seen so far. Also, with these images you will see something quite interesting, the paint apps do differ from figure to figure. As you will see, none of the battle damage is consistent across the figures. The placement is but the thickness and amount will differ making each figure unique.

These toys are shipping from distributors/wholesalers so these toys should be out at retail soon. There have already been sightings in comic book stores in California and Texas, further proving that distributors, such as Diamond, have gotten their stock to ship to retailers.

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Video Review for Transformers WFC Siege Optimus Prime and Megatron

Postby william-james88 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:53 pm

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We have some more Seibertron.com content for you. While we have several in hand images showing us the variation in deco from figure to figure, we also have a video review for both Transformers War For Cybertron Siege voyagers Optimus Prime and Megatron. These are currently being shipped to distributors (and in turn retailers) and can be found at comic book stores right now and will be found at big box retailers soon. The video review includes a look at the figures in package, along with features, a critical review, and the transformation.

Also, we have from a private source the case breakdown of the first wave of Seige. Optimus Prime and Megatron are of course evenly split in a case and it is also evenly split for the deluxes (Hound, Sideswipe, Flywheels and Cog) and battlemasters (Blowpipe, Lionizer and Firedrive). However it is not an equal split for the Micromasters where the Decepticon Airstrike is two per case while Autobot Race Car Patrol and Autobot Battle Patrol are each three per case.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:24 pm

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Wasn't one of the things that Hasbro revealed about Optimus that he had some form of Hover-truck mode?
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