Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:16 pm

Okay, so I consulted my inner geometry nerd and counted up the spaces on the Earthrise star map. Here is what I found so far:

The map has 129 full hexagons, and 1 additional diamond piece for the total of all the map pieces.
Each hexagon can fit 3 diamond shaped pieces.

Battlemasters and Micromasters each get a single diamond piece
Deluxes get 3 hexagons
Voyagers (including the Thundercracker/Skywarp pack) get 4 hexagons
Leaders get 6 hexagons

I don't know yet about Commander or Titan, but I'm assuming they would each have at least 6 like the leaders.

I have the TR clones, so I'm not sure on them either, but they look to be same as deluxe.

Based on what I know for official releases and expected map pieces we have:

MM and BM = 10 so far, or 3 hexagons and the extra diamond piece
Deluxe = 13 so far, 39 hexagons
Voyager (includes Thundercracker/Skywarp and Thrust) = 7 so far, 28 hexagons
Leader = 3 so far, 18 hexagons

So I get a total of 88 hexagons (and the extra diamond) used so far.

Now for speculation:
Lets assume the clones do in fact use 3.
The Amazon coneheads will likely have 4 hexagons like Thundercracker/Skywarp, for 4 more.
My guess on the Amazon Prowl/Ironhide would be 3 more like a regular deluxe.
if Commander and Titan each have 6 like the leaders, that would be 12 more, for a total of 22 more hexagons from this speculation, and a total of 110 (and the extra diamond) used up so far.

That would leave 19 hexagons left to fill in.
The total number of unknown BM's and MM's would have to be a multiple of 3, and 3 or 6 seems to be the most likely answer.

This would also assume no more unknown exclusives, which could easily eat up more slots.

In any case, I think this points to wave 4 not being a full wave no matter how you divide up the remaining available spots, but if there are no more exclusives, then wave 4 might be close to full.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Destron » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:21 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:23 pm

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SkyLynx has 8 Hexagons, and Scorponok has 20 if I counted correctly that is... ;)



Additionally as I side note. I worry about things sometimes, and 2nd guessing myself, sometimes causes more harm than good. The Tail section on Scorponok comes separate from the body. I attached it correctly initially, but when trying to transform to city mode I second guessed myself and thought I had it on backwards, needless to say, its very problematic to remove. I had to do it twice to get it back right correctly, and the second time it nearly broke!. I have stress marks on one side now, but its ok, and Ill never do it again, just as a cautionary tail, (no pun intended), make sure you get it right the first time, and dont remove it thereafter.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Hokutron » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:36 pm

Megs is looking kinda flat there in his tank mode...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:48 pm

o.supreme wrote:SkyLynx has 8 Hexagons, and Scorponok has 20 if I counted correctly that is... ;)


Wow, if that is the case, then wave 4 might end up being pretty small after all.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:55 pm

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Megatron continues to look like a worthless born shelfwarmer.

Elita is also crap. Suffers from the ER Arcee mold's flaws (and having the mold double as her is probably the cause of them), so small that she'd have been better as Ariel, and still not properly pink.

Fasttrack looks nice. Bumblebee's okay too, but could use different accessories.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby adamage1 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:08 pm

For anyone on the hunt, everyone’s favorite narcissist showed up at the Fargo Target today, which is the first time I have seen this size class on the shelf in any local stores. They had two available.

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Re: War for Cybertron: Earthrise Fasttrack, Megatron, and Netflix Elita-1 and Bumblebee New Photos.

Postby adamage1 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:17 pm

Bounti76 wrote:Thanks to Seibertronian Cyberpath, we've been alerted to some brand new stock images of upcoming Earthrise figures! Dengeki Hobby Web has posted some new images of Deluxe Class Fasttrack and Megatron. There's not a lot new to see with Megatron- he does have his more Earth-style tank mode, and he does have some battle damage paint applications that buck the trend of nearly all Earthrise figures not having ANY battle damage (he and Hoist seem to be the exceptions).

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Let us know what you think of these new images! Bumblebee looking love a mini-Masterpiece to you? Do Megatron's pictures give you a thirst for tyranny? Has Elita-One1 improved on her divot mold? Is Fasttrack's new Triple-changer status even more appealing? Share your thoughts below!


Megatron’s headsculpt is awful. Siege was pretty good, though a little off, but this just looks bad. I find this strange as usually the one thing Hasbro nails on virtually every figure is the headsculpt.

Bumblebee on the other hand looks fantastic, and I am glad I was lucky enough to get a preorder in before it sold out. He will look great next to Earthrise Cliffjumper on the shelf.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:17 pm

I reworked the numbers based on the map pieces thanks to input from o.supreme, and well, it doesn't look good for wave 4, but we should probably expect that.

The map has 129 full hexagons, and 1 additional diamond piece for the total of all the map pieces.
Each hexagon can fit 3 diamond shaped pieces.

Battlemasters and Micromasters each get a single diamond piece
Deluxes get 3 hexagons
Voyagers (including the Thundercracker/Skywarp pack) get 4 hexagons
Leaders get 6 hexagons
Commander gets 8 and Titan gets 20

I have the TR clones, so I'm not sure on the Earthrise ones, but they look to be same as deluxe.

Based on what we know for official releases and expected map pieces we have:

MM and BM = 10 so far, or 3 hexagons and the extra diamond piece
Deluxe = 13 (includes wave 4 Runabout) so far, 39 hexagons
Voyager (includes Thundercracker/Skywarp and Thrust) = 7 so far, 28 hexagons
Leader = 3 so far, 18 hexagons
Commander = 8
Titan = 20

So I get a total of 116 hexagons (and the extra diamond) used so far. That only leaves 13 unused hexagons for the map without having the Target clones, Amazon coneheads or Amazon Prowl/Ironhide accounted for. Lets say those use 3, 4 and 3 respectively, then that is only 3 hexagons left for whatever the Walgreens exclusive would be unless my math is off somewhere (entirely possible).

It does seem to suggest we know about almost everything for the entire line and that wave 4, might be another TR/PotP final wave with only 1 new deluxe.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:35 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:It does seem to suggest we know about almost everything for the entire line and that wave 4, might be another TR/PotP final wave with only 1 new deluxe.


The numbers work. But that is unfortunate. I understand the desire to occasionally re release something so anyone who missed it the first time can have another opportunity (Yay for Rung!) . However, IIRC with TR and PotP, even though there was only one new figure in each of that line's last wave's , it wasn't really heavily promoted. The toys themselves were, but not so much as Hasbro saying "this is a whole new wave".

Wave 5 of Siege was kind of a surprise, and I still think several of these were supposed to be in Earthrise, they just got released early. Hasbro released that full map a long time ago also promoting 4 waves. To have only one new figure in that last wave is kind of a letdown. They should have just been nonchalant about it as they were with TR and PotP, so as not to build up fan expectation. Unless there is some *super secret* additions to the map that Hasbro has been holding out on...??
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sarahthecutevixen » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:36 pm

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Scorponok has can have guns in robot mode, here are the instructions to show this isn't a repurposing of the ports for base mode
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the ports for base mode
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:49 pm

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Born on a mountaintop in Iacon,
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killed him a Pred when he was only three
Davy, Davy Convoy, king of the cyber frontier!


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Can't say I've heard that before, where is it from?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:55 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Can't say I've heard that before, where is it from?
The Ballad of Davy Crockett.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:16 pm

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In other news, like most of the rest of this line, both Doublecrosser and the Skywarp/Thundercracker 2-pack are going to be TakaraTomy Mall exclusives when they get released in Japan.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby toycave_studios » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:05 pm

EXTREMELY disappointed that Bee's HORNS have the tips CHOPPED OFF from the cg renders...

Fasttrack and Elita-1 look great. Earthrise Arcee is garbage, but E1 looks good.

Netflix Megs with Reprolabels looks best.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:47 am

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o.supreme wrote:The only *new* Figures in Netflix wave 2 are BB and Elita-1, It's possible for earthrise I guess, but I doubt it seeing as they would probably be on shelves around the same time.


Is Soundwave not included as "new" because a version of him was already in Siege?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Aimless Misfire » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:18 am

I hate the color of Elita-1's shins.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby joevill » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:56 am

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These all look great! Are they all just Walmart exclusives?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Glarryg » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:05 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:05 am

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joevill wrote:These all look great! Are they all just Walmart exclusives?
Just Bee and Elita are since they're Netflix figures rather than Earthrise.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:10 am

Glarryg wrote:Is it just me or is Elita painted like a human woman in bike shorts?

Glarryg


For me that is close. I see an Irish gal who normally wears knee length shorts, but is now wearing a swimsuit. Tan calves and pasty-white thighs.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:18 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Glarryg wrote:Is it just me or is Elita painted like a human woman in bike shorts?

Glarryg


For me that is close. I see an Irish gal who normally wears knee length shorts, but is now wearing a swimsuit. Tan calves and pasty-white thighs.
It's how her thighs looked in the cartoon:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:28 am

Sabrblade wrote:It's how her thighs looked in the cartoon:


Not disputing that, its the calves that kind of throw things off.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:53 am

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It's a bit of a shame that Earthrise may have little else to offer that hasn't already been leaked or revealed by now. We know Thrust is coming at some point, but there's no sign of another Leader Class figure after Doubledealer. We've got nothing confirming an Inferno retool from Grapple yet either. Now that we have the Ironhide and Prowl 2-pack coming in November, what about Ratchet and Bluestreak? Will some of these be relegated to Kingdom instead? Or maybe they'll come in a third wave of Netflix branded product next year to tie in to the Earthrise cartoon? Is there more to the map puzzle than meets the eye? Maybe more is to be added yet. Another consideration is that after the map is complete, nothing says Hasbro can't release future Earthrise waves without map pieces or with redundant map pieces if they wish to pad out the subline a little further as happened with Siege.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Discussion Thread

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Is it just me, or is Elita-1 colored like her PotP toy:

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