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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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War for Cybertron Kingdom Battle Across Time Maximal Skywarp and Earth-Mode Sideswipe

Postby Bounti76 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:45 pm

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Thanks to Hasbro, we've been alerted to another Transformers Tuesday reveal from Hasbro! This reveal brings us another of the "Battle Across Time" subline from Transformers: Kingdom. This two-pack, a shared exclusive between Hasbro Pulse and Amazon, contains Maximal Skywarp, a head(s) retool and redeco of Kingdom Airazor, and Sideswipe, now in his Earth Lamborghini form.

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Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom Battle Across Time Collection Deluxe WFC-K42 Sideswipe and Maximal Skywarp

(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $44.99 / Available: November 1, 2021)

The Deluxe WFC-K42 SIDESWIPE and MAXIMAL SKYWARP Battle Across Time Collection includes a G1-inspired SIDESWIPE figure standing at 5.5 inches tall that converts from robot to sports car mode in 16 steps and a Beast Wars II-inspired MAXIMAL SKYWARP standing at 5.5 inches tall converts from robot to bald eagle mode in 22 steps. The figures come with a shoulder cannon, blaster and 2 Photon blaster accessories.

 

The Battle Across Time Collection allows fans to experience the clash between G1 and Beast Wars with MAXIMAL and AUTOBOT team-ups! With SCORPONOK in pursuit, SIDESWIPE and SKYWARP must team up to keep the DECEPTICON-PREDACON threat at bay. Each Battle Across Time pack features exclusive art that creates an epic battle scene when combined (each sold separately, subject to availability).

 

Beastify the battlefield! Worlds collide when the MAXIMALS and PREDACONS join the fight, coming together with the AUTOBOTS and DECEPTICONS in an epic battle that will alter their destiny forever. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available now for pre-order on Amazon.

So, Seibertronians, are you excited for this new two pack? Didn't pick up Siege Sideswipe, but can't pass up Lambo Sideswipe? Not impressed with Airazor but won't miss out on Skywarp? Let us know what your thoughts are below!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:48 pm

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The head sculpt on Skywarp looks awesome! Though it is a bit odd to see the eagle head on the chest and the feaux eagle head on his bot head

Sideswipe looks great too, love the paint job

That being said the set is close to $50 and I'm not attached to skywarp or sideswipe enough to get them. I'm happy with airrazor and deep cover. Solid set though!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:49 pm

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While I like this set, it looks really dumb that we see both the eagle heads one under the other in Skywarp's robot mode. Further proof that redeco for redecos sake should be put to bed.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:49 pm

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Also in the bio for the other set, they're taking on dinobot, starscream and waspinator. Solid threat

These guys are up against scorponok. And he is smol. And alone. Smolone. And he's not a "decepticon-predacon threat" unless this dude also has Titan scorpies spark in him or something
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:51 pm

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william-james88 wrote:While I like this set, it looks really dumb that we see both the eagle heads one under the other in Skywarp's robot mode. Further proof that redeco for redecos sake should be put to bed.


I agree, but a lot of people seem to favor them.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:53 pm

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This set looks great! I had Magnaboss when I was a kid, but I wouldn't say I'm perticularly nostalgic for him, but Airazor has been one of my favourite moulds from Kingdom so far, and I think this Skywarp repaint has been done pretty well. Like Mirage, G1 Sideswipe has never been a character I've cared much about, but the Sideswipe in this set looks really nice, and I like it a lot more than the Siege version and its plethora of repaints. As much as I'm tempted to pre-order this set, I probably won't, because I don't know if either Sideswipe or Skywarp really have a place in my current collection set-up.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:59 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:00 pm

o.supreme wrote:Yeah something is off about the Price, even at the *less* expensive amount on Pulse of $47.99. There should be more than a 5 dollar price difference for a Voyager & Deluxe vs 2 Deluxes. This should be $44 at the MOST. It almost seems like there was supposed to be an added battlemaster, or some accessories (similar to the Siege sets) that got left out.


Not necessarily. Assuming the new pricing for deluxes at $22.99, then they are really only off by a dollar, not enough to make up for anything other than maybe blast effects. Also, previous Siege sets were also off by a dollar or 2. The Skywarp set was a voyager plus 3 battlemasters, sold for $50 and the individual parts made up $48 based on normal pricing.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Bounti76 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:01 pm

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So this is weird....Pulse has the set for $47.99. Amazon for $52.99. But when I ordered from Amazon earlier, I got it for $44.99? I mean, I'll take it, I just wonder why the price changes. Also, why is Pulse offering it for less than the "exclusive" retailer is?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Yodoswaginz » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:09 pm

Man I really wish they'd put Grimlock with Sideswipe instead of Mirage. If Sideswipe and Grimlock were together it would have been a definite buy, but the way it is I don't really want either sets. I have the original Magnaboss set, so I have no interest in owning Skywarp. Likewise Earthmode Mirage doesn't interest me given his fake kibble and the fact he can't shoulder his missile launcher.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:15 pm

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So no nightprowler then?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:15 pm

For anyone who can't order from Pulse, you can possibly get Amazon to price match. There is should be a link somewhere in the product info to report a lower price. You can report Pulse's price there and within a few days, Amazon may match the Pulse price. I did this with Kingdom wave 1 and 2 deluxes and Voyagers that Gamestop had priced cheaper.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:21 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So no nightprowler then?
Unless they surprise us with another set.

What were the original listings with Nightprowler and the other four? Who was with who before?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Mindmaster » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:46 pm

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Was hoping Sideswipe would be blockier and more Countach-y... this is not that. All that seems to be different is the hood/torso. As nice as that is, it’s not enough for me to replace Siegeswipe. It’s a sad pass for me. Same with Mirage, and with the revelation he can’t mount his rocket launcher on his shoulder like the Siege one can, I ended up canceling my preorder for it and keeping my one.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Bounti76 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:56 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:Was hoping Sideswipe would be blockier and more Countach-y... this is not that. All that seems to be different is the hood/torso. As nice as that is, it’s not enough for me to replace Siegeswipe. It’s a sad pass for me. Same with Mirage, and with the revelation he can’t mount his rocket launcher on his shoulder like the Siege one can, I ended up canceling my preorder for it and keeping my one.


The hood, the back of the legs, the back.... basically the entire car mode looks different.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:59 pm

Bounti76 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Was hoping Sideswipe would be blockier and more Countach-y... this is not that. All that seems to be different is the hood/torso. As nice as that is, it’s not enough for me to replace Siegeswipe. It’s a sad pass for me. Same with Mirage, and with the revelation he can’t mount his rocket launcher on his shoulder like the Siege one can, I ended up canceling my preorder for it and keeping my one.


The hood, the back of the legs, the back.... basically the entire car mode looks different.

Yeah, the front and back of the car look almost exactly like the Sunstreaker mold.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:59 pm

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Bounti76 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Was hoping Sideswipe would be blockier and more Countach-y... this is not that. All that seems to be different is the hood/torso. As nice as that is, it’s not enough for me to replace Siegeswipe. It’s a sad pass for me. Same with Mirage, and with the revelation he can’t mount his rocket launcher on his shoulder like the Siege one can, I ended up canceling my preorder for it and keeping my one.


The hood, the back of the legs, the back.... basically the entire car mode looks different.

I would have to see a comparison picture to judge fully (and those will be popping up on the net anytime now). Not being picky, I was okay with the Siege version as it looked more an earth car then a Cybertronian one. This may also be as far as Hasbro is willing to go to avoid certain...difficulties.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:02 pm

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Because comparisons are best done with actual images instead of just from memory:

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The car shell is all new it looks like. Only thing truly missing is his spoiler.

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The robot parts are the same, which makes sense to do so.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:11 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Because comparisons are best done with actual images instead of just from memory:

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The car shell is all new it looks like. Only thing truly missing is his spoiler.

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The robot parts are the same, which makes sense to do so.

Thanks Jelze!

So they have changed more but meh, I think sideswipe is fine as is.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:22 pm

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Yeah, same here. It's nice, but not nice or different enough for me to double dip or even replace Siege Sideswipe.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:24 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, same here. It's nice, but not nice or different enough for me to double dip or even replace Siege Sideswipe.


That's probably why him and Earth Mode Mirage were made exclusives instead of main retail. Compared to the others, the retooling is... fairly minimal, to point they look so much alike any parent can go: "You already have that".
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:25 pm

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Well there was never a way this pack would get my interest/money without having completely different figures in it, so easy pass, although Skywarp does look somewhat better than I expected. Hopefully Nightprowler pops up somewhere (but NOT in one of these packs, please, I don't want a second Hound).

blackeyedprime wrote:*also a bit dull that it's continuing the good guy vs good guy trend intead of hero/villain.
What trend? These aren't supposed to be versus packs, just Autobot/Maximal team-ups.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Also in the bio for the other set, they're taking on dinobot, starscream and waspinator. Solid threat

These guys are up against scorponok. And he is smol. And alone. Smolone. And he's not a "decepticon-predacon threat" unless this dude also has Titan scorpies spark in him or something
Well considering Starscream is the ONLY retail Decepticon in this line that isn't a Core Class mini-version or a Unicron minion, it's not like they had a whole lot of options of evil teammates to give Scorpy here.

Sabrblade wrote:What were the original listings with Nightprowler and the other four? Who was with who before?
I believe the history of these set's contents went as follows:
Original rumor/leak: Sideswipe & Grimlock, Mirage & Skywarp
Amazon Australia listings: Sideswipe & Nightprowler, Mirage & Grimlock
Other Amazon listings & later actual reveals: Sideswipe & Skywarp, Mirage & Grimlock
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:26 pm

Motto: ""Here's a hint!""
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I remember seeing an Instagram pic from kremzeek where he used Sideswipe's shoulder cannon on kingdom mirages back to hold the shoulder cannon
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:34 pm

Motto: ""Here's a hint!""
Weapon: Pile-Drivers
Razorbeast88 wrote:Also in the bio for the other set, they're taking on dinobot, starscream and waspinator. Solid threat

These guys are up against scorponok. And he is smol. And alone. Smolone. And he's not a "decepticon-predacon threat" unless this dude also has Titan scorpies spark in him or something
Well considering Starscream is the ONLY retail Decepticon in this line that isn't a Core Class mini-version or a Unicron minion, it's not like they had a whole lot of options of evil teammates to give Scorpy here.


Fair enough but why would a unicron minion not be considered? It's a battle Across Time, at some point in time Cyclonus is no longer attached to unicron. Plus they could've just as easily written in a decepticon from siege or earthrise. Could've even been scorponok and Blackarachnia teaming up

Just to be clear it really doesn't matter lol I just wanted an excuse to say smolone but I wouldnt say there weren't at least a couple of other options
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