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Postby william-james88 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 2:50 pm

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We had seen that there are many collaborative projects coming up and now we have a rumour for the next one from JTPrime17. The next G1 Joe Transformers collaborative project is rumoured to be a Dreadnoks Soundwave that turns into the Thundermachine. This set would include an O-ring Zartan and Zarana, plus Ravage with chain. Of course, we repeat, only a rumour right now, and release plans are constantly changing.

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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:15 pm

This kind of make sense: The Dreadnoks were a mini-team more loyal to Zartan than the rest of Cobra, memorable and beloved by fans due in part to their use of unconventional weapons and more savage fighting style, so if you had to pick some Cobra characters that were the equivalent of Soundwave and the cassettes, they're the best fit.
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Postby rairakku16 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:36 pm

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Hoping it'll be better than the other two Collaboratives, also finally a non-kiddie G1 Land Vehicle Soundwave
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Postby william-james88 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:49 pm

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rairakku16 wrote:Hoping it'll be better than the other two Collaboratives, also finally a non-kiddie G1 Land Vehicle Soundwave


The Cyberverse deluxe was fine for a land vehicle soundwave, wasn't more kiddie than any other soundwave, as were the 2 War for Cybertron game figure releases
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby rairakku16 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 7:17 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
rairakku16 wrote:Hoping it'll be better than the other two Collaboratives, also finally a non-kiddie G1 Land Vehicle Soundwave


The Cyberverse deluxe was fine for a land vehicle soundwave, wasn't more kiddie than any other soundwave, as were the 2 War for Cybertron game figure releases

Oh yeah. Forgot about the WFC and FOC ones,hoping they redo them in SS.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:12 pm

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I guess this was more successful than we gave them credit for (though there's still time for this to be cancelled). The initial report when Megatron was leaked was that they were only doing two figures. At least this time we're potentially getting one that'll be mostly the correct color in both modes.

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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby Flashwave » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:09 pm

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That... certainly is a vehicle. As Soundwave I am indifferent, and ultimately these are not going to be in a scale I want for my main shelf. But after seeing the picture of the "car" I really wish they would pull a Snowcat and give us this as a Decepticon in line with the main offerings. Because that this is wicked and weird looking

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rairakku16 wrote:Hoping it'll be better than the other two Collaboratives, also finally a non-kiddie G1 Land Vehicle Soundwave


The Cyberverse deluxe was fine for a land vehicle soundwave, wasn't more kiddie than any other soundwave, as were the 2 War for Cybertron game figure releases

Oh yeah. Forgot about the WFC and FOC ones,hoping they redo them in SS.

Too small or too big for what I want. But then what I really want is a G1 Soundwave with a surveillance plane alt in line with Prime.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:27 pm

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Flashwave wrote:Too small or too big for what I want. But then what I really want is a G1 Soundwave with a surveillance plane alt in line with Prime.


It would be quite difficult to turn a bot that is basically a bunch of boxes strung together to an altmode that is sleek and full of curves.

The Siege space barge was the best possible flying vehicle possible to make from the G1 bot.

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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:46 pm

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This means at least one more GI Joe collab then. Can't see them leaving 2 'Cons to 1 bot. My guess is Optimus as a HAVOC.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:55 pm

First-Aid wrote:This means at least one more GI Joe collab then. Can't see them leaving 2 'Cons to 1 bot. My guess is Optimus as a HAVOC.
That'd be awesome, and the HAVOC always was my fav Joe land vehicle, but HISS Megs does need to be repainted red and given an Optimus head at some point in the future to homage Op's appearance in the Devil's Due crossover, even if that would throw off the Joe/Bots vs. Cobra/Cons theme.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:14 pm

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Bumblevivisector wrote:
First-Aid wrote:This means at least one more GI Joe collab then. Can't see them leaving 2 'Cons to 1 bot. My guess is Optimus as a HAVOC.
That'd be awesome, and the HAVOC always was my fav Joe land vehicle, but HISS Megs does need to be repainted red and given an Optimus head at some point in the future to homage Op's appearance in the Devil's Due crossover, even if that would throw off the Joe/Bots vs. Cobra/Cons theme.


Don't think they'd go to far from main lines for either.

My belief is still Optimus (because they already did Megatron) but options may include:

HAVOC- may allow for bot mode to be comparable to Megs due to removal of hover vehicle despite larger vehicle size

Tiger Cat- longer armored Jeep-type vehicle

Mean Dog- longer vehicle, splits in two normally, could allow for an armored Prime to counter Megs heavily armed bot mode

MOBAT- because Prime as a tank is long overdue.

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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:26 pm

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I too would find it crazy if they omitted Optimus from this crossover
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby SykDealer » Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:42 am

It's a shame they are only doing the same old boring (yes I said it) legacy characters. Those Joe vehicles are so cool one can easily imagine all the cool bits in an original robot mode. But no, we get the same 5 characters in vehicles that don't match colors with their bot modes :-( leading to DISGUSTING mismatched, obtuse kibble. literally screaming into my gobots pillow rn tbh ngl :HEADHURTS:
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

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The other two looked pretty dire. So I'm not hopeful that this one will course correct the "Bot in cosplay kibble" aesthetic that BB and Megs enjoy. The comic book crossover designs ala Dreamwave & IDW, seem to grasp the concept a whole lot better than Hasbro does.

Not overly keen on GI Joe, in general. As strictly vehicle crossovers go, I think MASK would have been a better choice.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The other two looked pretty dire. So I'm not hopeful that this one will course correct the "Bot in cosplay kibble" aesthetic that BB and Megs enjoy. The comic book crossover designs ala Dreamwave & IDW, seem to grasp the concept a whole lot better than Hasbro does.

Not overly keen on GI Joe, in general. As strictly vehicle crossovers go, I think MASK would have been a better choice.


MASK would be tougher to pull off since the idea is to retain vehicke functionality and MASK vehicles have their own transforming gimmicks.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:45 am

william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The other two looked pretty dire. So I'm not hopeful that this one will course correct the "Bot in cosplay kibble" aesthetic that BB and Megs enjoy. The comic book crossover designs ala Dreamwave & IDW, seem to grasp the concept a whole lot better than Hasbro does.

Not overly keen on GI Joe, in general. As strictly vehicle crossovers go, I think MASK would have been a better choice.


MASK would be tougher to pull off since the idea is to retain vehicke functionality and MASK vehicles have their own transforming gimmicks.

Right, the Rhino as Optimus seems like an obvious choice, but that would probably work as a deco only and not include any of the original play features. That would be the issue for most of the line.

On the other hand, the iconic Thunderhawk had only two main functions that I recall, the gull wing doors and a minor change with the bumper and spoiler. I think they should be able to develop a 3.75" compatible functional figure with similar engineering to Siege Sideswipe. I would really like to see that as a one-off.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:12 am

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The other two looked pretty dire. So I'm not hopeful that this one will course correct the "Bot in cosplay kibble" aesthetic that BB and Megs enjoy. The comic book crossover designs ala Dreamwave & IDW, seem to grasp the concept a whole lot better than Hasbro does.

Not overly keen on GI Joe, in general. As strictly vehicle crossovers go, I think MASK would have been a better choice.


MASK would be tougher to pull off since the idea is to retain vehicke functionality and MASK vehicles have their own transforming gimmicks.


Most of the MASK vehicles are essentially triple changers EG Switchblade. Not a completely alien concept to Transformers. I think they would look a lot more interesting than this line's output of "good looking vehicle, but don't look too closely at the Bot Mode".
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Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:22 am

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I think we may just have to accept that mask is a dead line and that the reason its GI Joe and Transformers is to capitalise on the fandoms of both.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

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Yeah, MASK had it's time. Even IDW botched it, as a revival. Chiefly because I don't think it works in a shared universe. Particularly the same one as Transformers. The only dormant 80's property I think still deserves a revival is Bravestarr.

GI Joe's popularity is a strange one to me. I dunno, maybe it is a popular thing in America? But I don't hear too many people that actually like it, globally. Certain characters have pop culture status IE Cobra Commander or Destro. But personally, I couldn't name more than probably ten characters? I only know them from reading the crossovers that were printed in the part work.
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Re: GI Joe Transformers Collaborative Project Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:39 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:GI Joe's popularity is a strange one to me. I dunno, maybe it is a popular thing in America? But I don't hear too many people that actually like it, globally. Certain characters have pop culture status IE Cobra Commander or Destro. But personally, I couldn't name more than probably ten characters? I only know them from reading the crossovers that were printed in the part work.


GI Joe is conceived as an American brand, especially the 80s version which is what all this is based on. It makes sense that it wouldn't have much appeal outside of the US if that is indeed the case.
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Most M.A.S.K vehicles barely "transform" anyway and we already have some Transformers with "M.A.S.K.ish" altmodes like Autobot Tracks or even ROTF Megatron. But what will make them never happen is the obscurity of the line. The Joe-Xover is a miracle to have ever happen and it's a HUGE brand.

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You wouldn't have thought Hasbro would have difficulties releasing crossovers between brands it owns.
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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:You wouldn't have thought Hasbro would have difficulties releasing crossovers between brands it owns.


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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:You wouldn't have thought Hasbro would have difficulties releasing crossovers between brands it owns.


There may be a lot of corporate shenanigans and red tape behind the scenes.


I know that is definitely a thing with the ..complicated issue of the GoBots. Which otherwise would have been a no-brainer crossover years ago.
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