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[Tigertrack]

Reliable eBay seller Bodhar2000 shares a little warning for those purchasing the Japanese store exclusive Henkei Thrust and Dirge:

Hello,
This is just a notification that all the orders have been fulfilled one day ahead of schedule, so you all should be receiving these in a few days. Also, just a word of warning about the seekers. The wings do not fold back in robot mode like they do with Henkei Ramjet (they kind of just stick out of the sides in bot mode). I already had one buyer snap off his wing and ask for a replacement. Unfortunately these are sold out and irreplaceable, so please pay attention to the instructions *before* transforming him.
Ok that’s all I guess, and look for your package in the mail sometime this week!

Best Regards,
-B2K-

Just a word of caution to the community, so that you can keep your toys in one piece. I don't have mine yet, so I have no personal experience with the 'new' wings yet.

[Editor]

The good news here, is that I should be seeing mine soon.

[shankz]

Much appreciated, because I had already thought how I was going to move those back on mine. I'm not crazy about not being able to do that (especially with Dirge), but its nice to know that you can't.

[Mkall]

Still haven't received confirmation from him about mine. Hopefully that'll come soon.

[Solrac333]

Yikes! Feel sorry for the guy that broke the wings.

[Barrelass]

On Thrust I am guessing he is talking about the tailfins near the feet. If that is what someone snapped, someone should smack him/her.

[UDA]

Cute! Who in their right mind breaks something because of ignorance and asks for a replacement part? That customer had some balls. Or just plain dumb. Make up a story people!!! It came F'ed up in the box/card!

[Editor]

Cute! Who in their right mind breaks something because of ignorance and asks for a replacement part? That customer had some balls. Or just plain dumb. Make up a story people!!! It came F'ed up in the box/card!

Not this time, I've dealt with Bodhar, he does quality work, and if he sees the product is f'ed, I doubt he would ship it.

[Firebird]

I feel bad for the guy who broke his figure.

But it's not Bodhars responsibility to replace it.

[CollectionTF]

Thanks for the heads up

[alldarker]

Hmmm... Interesting, sounds like a slight mold change. But I severly doubt my Henkei Dirge or Thrust will ever leave the warm, safe embrace of their packaging, just as my Henkei Starscream, Ramjet, Skywarp and Thundercracker will probably never leave theirs.

[Rated X]

Cant wait too see henkei close shop so we will start getting these exclusives in Wal-mart. With no shortage of plastic or cheap labor on that side of the world I cant understand how they justify charging 40 to 60 bucks for a figure. Im dying to get Thrust and Dirge but I will wait for some extravagent collecter to face forclosure and sell his collection cheap on e-bay...lol

[Editor]

Cant wait too see henkei close shop so we will start getting these exclusives in Wal-mart. With no shortage of plastic or cheap labor on that side of the world I cant understand how they justify charging 40 to 60 bucks for a figure. Im dying to get Thrust and Dirge but I will wait for some extravagent collecter to face forclosure and sell his collection cheap on e-bay...lol

Henkai close shop? You do realize that makes no sence, It's like saying I hope armada doesn't reopen.

The cost is higher due to the smaller production run, just as the convention specials are more expencive. The rising costs of business do not effect costs as much as you seem to think they do.

[g2grimmy64]

Because there's no possible way one can tell they don't fold back by LOOKING AT THE FIGURE

[alldarker]

Hmmm... Interesting, sounds like a slight mold change.

Never mind...

[DoubleOScorpio]

On Thrust I am guessing he is talking about the tailfins near the feet. If that is what someone snapped, someone should smack him/her.

You're right on this. I was immediately thinking of the primary wings that fold up behind the upperback/shoulder area, but when I read your post, I realized that someone tried to put the back fins at an angle, like you do with Ramjet.


Here's a recent thread that shows that the main wings do fold up:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ore/15552/

[Shadowstream]

Given how the henkei version was meant to replicate show accuracy more so than our American versions I wouldn't fiddle with the placement of either set of wings in robot mode, save for pegging the VTOL fans in a hole that suits better visibility for whichever mode it's in... unless someone's dumb enough to break those too.

[Down_Shift]

hahahahaha, who ever broke their thrust must feel like a complete doucher.

[Counterpunch]

RE: everyone laughing

If you had Henkei Ramjet, you'd have a better understanding of this.

His wings fold back and rotate on a peg, however, they are most of the time quite tight to begin with. The guy that broke his was probably under the assumption that Thrust and Dirge were the same way.

[Diem]

I'm surprised Dirge has this issue, given that his wings are comparatively similar to Ramjet's.

Dirge might be my first Gentai purchase, but not if his fragility or QC are in question.

[DevastaTTor]

Given that all my Classics/Henkei seekers are displayed in alt mode, this won't be an issue for me. I will probably transform them at some point but not until more light about the exact nature of this problem has been clearly detailed online.

Hope these guys ship out soon.

[Tigertrack]

I just got my Dirge and Thrust today.

I have to say, I like them better than I thought that I would. Dirge's wings are much more accurate (minus the striping) than the Botcon wings.

Thrust's color is more accurate than the Botcon version, but the Botcon version has a better overall look, in fact both Botcon versions I believe are better.

The VTOL fans on Thrust are just pegged into the holes on his wings, above or below the big, and below on the small. It is one piece, not a wrap around piece as many had previously thought.

AS far as Bodhar's warning, it was nice to have, but I believe most collectors will be just fine, unless the toy is flawed when sent to them.

I find these two to be sturdier than the TC and SW releases. The joints are tighter, the cannons fit into the shoulders much better.

If you were on the fence, and were considering getting them, I suggest the pair, especially if you do not have the Botcon set. There are enough differences to merit having them if do already have the Botcon set as well.

Overall, a realy nice release. I could do without the wing stripes, but they are not deal breakers.

[Counterpunch]

I just got my Dirge and Thrust today.

I have to say, I like them better than I thought that I would. Dirge's wings are much more accurate (minus the striping) than the Botcon wings.

Thrust's color is more accurate than the Botcon version, but the Botcon version has a better overall look, in fact both Botcon versions I believe are better.

The VTOL fans on Thrust are just pegged into the holes on his wings, above or below the big, and below on the small. It is one piece, not a wrap around piece as many had previously thought.

AS far as Bodhar's warning, it was nice to have, but I believe most collectors will be just fine, unless the toy is flawed when sent to them.

I find these two to be sturdier than the TC and SW releases. The joints are tighter, the cannons fit into the shoulders much better.

If you were on the fence, and were considering getting them, I suggest the pair, especially if you do not have the Botcon set. There are enough differences to merit having them if do already have the Botcon set as well.

Overall, a realy nice release. I could do without the wing stripes, but they are not deal breakers.

sigh...should I get them just for funsies?

[Tigertrack]

RE: everyone laughing

If you had Henkei Ramjet, you'd have a better understanding of this.

His wings fold back and rotate on a peg, however, they are most of the time quite tight to begin with. The guy that broke his was probably under the assumption that Thrust and Dirge were the same way.

You are probably right. Dirge's are fixed. The wings are not adjustable. The lower portion anyway. The upper portion does what Ramjet's does to allow for arm movement, and the split at the waist where the legs extend.

I'm surprised Dirge has this issue, given that his wings are comparatively similar to Ramjet's.

Dirge might be my first Gentai purchase, but not if his fragility or QC are in question.

He's a good one. I would consider a second because of the remolded wings. They look good. NO QC issues with mine.

[Tigertrack]

sigh...should I get them just for funsies?

Well, yeah, considering you have not been collecting Animated and probably really want something new. They are cool to compare with the Botcon versions, and different enough to merit their own space on your shelf.