Burn wrote:Though I didn't see no Stalker ... *shakes fist angrily*
Stronghold wrote:has anyone ever heard of Overlord before? What's his reputation and is he another Starscream? You know...always plotting against Megatron behind his back.
Chaoslock wrote:Burn wrote:Though I didn't see no Stalker ... *shakes fist angrily*
He is there, on the fifth page, Overlord says to him: "Is this everyone?"
txex97 wrote:Is Ironfist a Euro G2 Lightformer? In my copy of J.E. Alvarez's "The Unofficial Guide to Japanese and International Transformers," he's listed as "Ironhide." Or is Ironfist a Euro G2 Powermaster (also listed as "Ironhide" - both are Hummers in vehicle mode but are 2 totally different molds)?
Of course, Alvarez misspelled "Predacon" repeatedly in one of his other TF guides, so perhaps I should take his book with a grain of salt.
txex97 wrote:Is Ironfist a Euro G2 Lightformer? In my copy of J.E. Alvarez's "The Unofficial Guide to Japanese and International Transformers," he's listed as "Ironhide." Or is Ironfist a Euro G2 Powermaster (also listed as "Ironhide" - both are Hummers in vehicle mode but are 2 totally different molds)?
Of course, Alvarez misspelled "Predacon" repeatedly in one of his other TF guides, so perhaps I should take his book with a grain of salt.
Devastron wrote:I was a bit dissappointed. I was looking forward to a gritty, dirty hard core robot fighting book.
Devastron wrote:On the other hand the scenes with the Autobots were a letdown. Instead of a crew of veterans going into a tough mission we get a bunch of goofy rookies who have cannon fodder written all over them. Someone mentioned the lack of nameplates and I found this issue definitely needed them. Characters popped in and out all over and them being all relatively obscure made it difficult to realize who was talking to who. Then we have some confusion over who is actually leading the team. Its Magnus now apparently? And Springer is ahead of Kup?
Devastron wrote:Really though, none of that stuff ruined the book for me. I can even overlook all of those things. There were 2 major things that brought the book down for me though. First, the inclusion of Verity, fulfilling that age old trope of 'human sidekick/mascot.' I never liked her in the first place and now throwing her in as a 'Wrecker' running around in her underwear with 'robot hands' and goofing around with the new recruits irritated the heck out of me. Why do we have to have a human thrown in? The other major thing I had against it was the inclusion of Impactor. I have never liked the character. What everyone seems to feel about Drift, I feel for Impactor. The way he came in at the end, apparently blowing up a ship single handedly and they way everyone gasped and moaned that it was him, it already feels like he is going to be built up into something huge. If thats the case then I have to call out all of the people who dumped on Drift as I see little difference between him and how it looks like Impactor will be portrayed in this way.
Devastron wrote:That said, I still enjoyed it, I was just hoping for a lot more. The artwork was good and the scenes on Garrus 9 were fantastic. I'm very excited to see some new characters, especially Overlord. I'd give it 3.5 stars out of 5.
First Gen wrote:Devastron wrote:I was a bit dissappointed. I was looking forward to a gritty, dirty hard core robot fighting book.
In other words, you were looking for a one shot as opposed to a five issue series.
Devastron wrote:On the other hand the scenes with the Autobots were a letdown. Instead of a crew of veterans going into a tough mission we get a bunch of goofy rookies who have cannon fodder written all over them. Someone mentioned the lack of nameplates and I found this issue definitely needed them. Characters popped in and out all over and them being all relatively obscure made it difficult to realize who was talking to who. Then we have some confusion over who is actually leading the team. Its Magnus now apparently? And Springer is ahead of Kup?
As far as I know, Springer has always been in charge and over Kup when it comes to the Wreckers. I thought the story was scripted well enough and the namedropping let you know who was who right away. But thats me, I don't like signs cluttering up panels.Devastron wrote:Really though, none of that stuff ruined the book for me. I can even overlook all of those things. There were 2 major things that brought the book down for me though. First, the inclusion of Verity, fulfilling that age old trope of 'human sidekick/mascot.' I never liked her in the first place and now throwing her in as a 'Wrecker' running around in her underwear with 'robot hands' and goofing around with the new recruits irritated the heck out of me. Why do we have to have a human thrown in? The other major thing I had against it was the inclusion of Impactor. I have never liked the character. What everyone seems to feel about Drift, I feel for Impactor. The way he came in at the end, apparently blowing up a ship single handedly and they way everyone gasped and moaned that it was him, it already feels like he is going to be built up into something huge. If thats the case then I have to call out all of the people who dumped on Drift as I see little difference between him and how it looks like Impactor will be portrayed in this way.
Really?! I thought Verity coming back was a nice throwback to the -Tion series and showed continuity. Of course her wardrobe could have been better but still. And if not Impactor, than who? I think it's refreshing that IDW is trying to incorporate obscure TF's to add to the continuity, instead of recycling the same 5 bots and cons over and over again. As far as Drift, well, no comment.Devastron wrote:That said, I still enjoyed it, I was just hoping for a lot more. The artwork was good and the scenes on Garrus 9 were fantastic. I'm very excited to see some new characters, especially Overlord. I'd give it 3.5 stars out of 5.
Yeah, seems like you were looking for one shot quality.
Devastron wrote:First Gen wrote:Devastron wrote:I was a bit dissappointed. I was looking forward to a gritty, dirty hard core robot fighting book.
In other words, you were looking for a one shot as opposed to a five issue series.
Devastron wrote:On the other hand the scenes with the Autobots were a letdown. Instead of a crew of veterans going into a tough mission we get a bunch of goofy rookies who have cannon fodder written all over them. Someone mentioned the lack of nameplates and I found this issue definitely needed them. Characters popped in and out all over and them being all relatively obscure made it difficult to realize who was talking to who. Then we have some confusion over who is actually leading the team. Its Magnus now apparently? And Springer is ahead of Kup?
As far as I know, Springer has always been in charge and over Kup when it comes to the Wreckers. I thought the story was scripted well enough and the namedropping let you know who was who right away. But thats me, I don't like signs cluttering up panels.Devastron wrote:Really though, none of that stuff ruined the book for me. I can even overlook all of those things. There were 2 major things that brought the book down for me though. First, the inclusion of Verity, fulfilling that age old trope of 'human sidekick/mascot.' I never liked her in the first place and now throwing her in as a 'Wrecker' running around in her underwear with 'robot hands' and goofing around with the new recruits irritated the heck out of me. Why do we have to have a human thrown in? The other major thing I had against it was the inclusion of Impactor. I have never liked the character. What everyone seems to feel about Drift, I feel for Impactor. The way he came in at the end, apparently blowing up a ship single handedly and they way everyone gasped and moaned that it was him, it already feels like he is going to be built up into something huge. If thats the case then I have to call out all of the people who dumped on Drift as I see little difference between him and how it looks like Impactor will be portrayed in this way.
Really?! I thought Verity coming back was a nice throwback to the -Tion series and showed continuity. Of course her wardrobe could have been better but still. And if not Impactor, than who? I think it's refreshing that IDW is trying to incorporate obscure TF's to add to the continuity, instead of recycling the same 5 bots and cons over and over again. As far as Drift, well, no comment.Devastron wrote:That said, I still enjoyed it, I was just hoping for a lot more. The artwork was good and the scenes on Garrus 9 were fantastic. I'm very excited to see some new characters, especially Overlord. I'd give it 3.5 stars out of 5.
Yeah, seems like you were looking for one shot quality.
The War Within wasn't a one shot. Stormbringer wasn't a one shot. Both of those were more what I was looking for. I just wanted Transformer vs Transformer in a brutal fashio, or at least the promise of it. The whole push of the book has felt like it would be like that, and maybe it will be. I don't expect the first issue to be non stop action, it is supposed to be set up, but this isn't the set up I was hoping for. It was good, just not the home run I was hoping for.
As for who is in charge, I guess its supposed to be Springer, but in AHM Kup clearly outranked him. Then there is the fact that they are flying around in Ultra Magnus's ship, so does that mean he is in charge? I suppose Springer is leader of the Wreckers and they are just hitching a ride on Magnus's ship? Seems odd since Magnus was established as pretty much a loner in the previous books. I guess Kup just took a demotion.
I hate Verity and the other two humans that were in the -ation books. I was glad that their roles were gradually reduced as time went by. Thats just my personal opinion, I am tired of the required human sidekick and I was hoping these comics were past that point.
I would have preferred almost anyone to Impactor. They already introduced a whole load of characters new to American continuity, why not grab another one? He could have used one the Turbomasters to match up with the Predators, or maybe Metalhawk to give some nice symmetry with Overlord on the con side. Instead we get Impactor recycled. Sure he has history with the Wreckers, but looking at the rest of the team using former Wreckers doesn't seem to be a big deal. Seeing someone like Metalhawk or Thunderclash would have gotten me more interested then seeing an old UK comic only character dusted off and used again.
Calvatron wrote:Or they could have some fun and just kill him and watch springer scream....
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