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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:41 am

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Cannonball will be utilizing the Silas Breakdown mold with Squirm being the "organic" in place of Silas (slight remold).


Tying in with the "Dread Pirate Roberts" theme... Genius!
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Rated X » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:15 am

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If pirates and knights arent bad enough, now they have to throw organic characters in the mix. The one thing that made funpub comics cool was the lack of humans.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:25 am

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Rated X wrote:If pirates and knights arent bad enough, now they have to throw organic characters in the mix. The one thing that made funpub comics cool was the lack of humans.


Cheap Shots had Muzzle, Quig, Lug, and Minerva, the first three being (former) binairy-bonded partners to Nightbeat, Siren and Hosehead. And Minerva appeared as a full-blown woman.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Banjo-Tron » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:39 am

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More importantly, who cares. Dreadful theme! At least the eBay scalpers won't get any of my monies this year...
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:41 am

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I hope he's not human. Really really hope he's some inhuman creature. :-B

Banjo-Tron wrote:More importantly, who cares. Dreadful theme!
I see what you did there. ;)
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:52 am

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Is it just me, or is this "Squirm" guy share a striking resemblance to Jak during Jak 3?

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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Deadput » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:07 pm

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Wow.....you guys are so childish complaining over Pirates and Knights when we have not even see them yet


I bet some of you will change your minds once you see them.

And the rest of you?

well...only oneself can change their own mind.

they are like sub factions! but even then that's just the theme we don't know what their group names (or individual names) are

I bet the pirates are Star Seekers.

I don't want to say the knights are those guys from IDW but I can't think of anything else.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby xRotorstormx » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:25 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Wow.....you guys are so childish complaining over Pirates and Knights when we have not even see them yet


I bet some of you will change your minds once you see them.

And the rest of you?

well...only oneself can change their own mind.

they are like sub factions! but even then that's just the theme we don't know what their group names (or individual names) are

I bet the pirates are Star Seekers.

I don't want to say the knights are those guys from IDW but I can't think of anything else.


The theme doesn't strike me and is a strange choice for the 30th anniversary but I agree. We haven't even seen the figures yet so there is no reason to start bashing it. We really know very little about the theme in general. Fun Pub can't make everyone happy and that's a fact. Some people will love it, some will hate it. I'm very curious to see how things progress. Who knows, this may be a great set

I personally have never been to Pasadena so either way I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:39 pm

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I love the sound of this theme! It's like Fun Pub is finally, at long last, going back to its roots in doing a set whose theme is true to the spirit of the very first set from 2005. No more of this "G1/G2/MW but new/different/backwards/etc." stuff that we've been getting since 2007. Just a simple concept born out of pure creative fun and imagination.

...even though it is still set in the same world as the 2009, 2010, and 2013 sets, and the 2010-2012 magazine storylines, have been set in: The Wings Universe. ;)

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I bet the pirates are Star Seekers.
They are, yes. But NOT the same ones as those from the existing fiction, meaning that these ones ought to not have anything to do with Thundertron and such. ;)
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby njb902 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:05 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I love the sound of this theme! It's like Fun Pub is finally, at long last, going back to its roots in doing a set whose theme is true to the spirit of the very first set from 2005. No more of this "G1/G2/MW but new/different/backwards/etc." stuff that we've been getting since 2007. Just a simple concept born out of pure creative fun and imagination.

...even though it is still set in the same world as the 2009, 2010, and 2013 sets, and the 2010-2012 magazine storylines, have been set in: The Wings Universe. ;)

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I bet the pirates are Star Seekers.
They are, yes. But NOT the same ones as those from the existing fiction, meaning that these ones ought to not have anything to do with Thundertron and such.


Why?
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:09 pm

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njb902 wrote:Why?
Well, unless the Club creates a G1 Thundertron, that is, since this will be set in the Wings Universe (as I noted) instead of the Aligned continuity.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:43 pm

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Huh.

So, a guy over at TFW got his TCC magazine issue recently and said it shows what Cannonball's toy looks like.

It's the Prime Robots in Disguise Deluxe Autobot Ratchet mold with a new Cannonball-esque headsculpt.

He also mentioned that the accompanying text in the magazine contained a log written by Tornado of Squadron X, in which Tornado notes how Cannonball had offered to let them join his crew, but Squadron X "saw a striking difference."

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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby njb902 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:37 pm

I'm happier and happier with my decision not to go this year. SDCC and NYCC here we come.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:44 pm

Motto: "Can't do a job halfway. What's worth doing is worth doing well, I say."
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Also, Jesse Wittenrich explained the reasoning behind this mold choice for Cannonball over at Allspark.com:

The very first toy explored for Cannonball was Breakdown. Because on the face of it, it seems perfect.

But after playing around with the transformation, how that related to the deco, the mold layout, and the exaggerated proportions (tiny head is tiny!), it didn't really work. Ratchet was actually the third option explored, but the robot mode was just perfect for him. Vehicle mode coincidentally became another emergency vehicle which some fans may like...and others not so much.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby njb902 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:47 pm

I wonder what the second was.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:55 pm

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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:56 pm

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I'm thinking either a Bulkhead mold or Beast Hunters Ratchet.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Tranzilla » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:25 am

Using Ratchet's alternate head...
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Postby Tranzilla » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:25 am

Still want the Cyborgs, though.
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BotCon 2014 TFCC Cannonball Figure Mold Revealed

Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:01 am

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Thanks to fellow Seibertron.com member Sabrblade, we have some interesting news about the recently revealed leader of the Pirate faction in this year's BotCon fiction, Cannonball. The news comes from the TCC magazine, currently being delivered to members. We are not able to show pictures, as per the Club's request, but here's the reveal:


Cannonball will be a redeco of Prime: Robots in Disguise Ratchet, with a new head mold!

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A fan who has received the magazine describes it as follows: Vehicle mode is black with silver for the fenders, bumpers, etc, and silver stylized skeletons drawn on the sides and top. Robot mode is also mostly black & silver, with what appears to be the typical Cannonball color (not sure if it's orange, green or what with my defective eyes) on the thighs, shoulders and upper arms. Head looks like Cybertron cannonball (I.e. Cybertron red alert) with typical visor and mouth.

This still seems not to explain the alternate head found in the Ratchet instructions, pictured below.

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Additionally, Jesse Wittenrich, writer of last year and this year's magazine comic, explained their choice of the mold at fellow fansite AllSpark.com:

The very first toy explored for Cannonball was Breakdown. Because on the face of it, it seems perfect.

But after playing around with the transformation, how that related to the deco, the mold layout, and the exaggerated proportions (tiny head is tiny!), it didn't really work. Ratchet was actually the third option explored, but the robot mode was just perfect for him. Vehicle mode coincidentally became another emergency vehicle which some fans may like...and others not so much.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:18 am

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Well, now that that's out into the open, might as well also mention that the TFW guy said that the magazine also contains a mention of Squadron X in the accompanying text for Cannonball, in which there is a log written by Squadron X member Tornado, who notes how Cannonball offered to let them join his crew, but Squadron X "saw a striking difference."
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Postby Va'al » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:24 am

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To be fair, I really really really like that mold. It's the lack of a nice deco that brought it down (Reprolabels fixed it for me). I have no sentimental connection to the character, either, so I'll be interested to see how this turns out!
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Postby megatronus » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:33 am

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Ratchet's mold was always a good one, but I still would have preferred Breakdown for this purpose.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:35 am

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Wow, one of the proposed possibilities actually came true! :shock:

Va'al wrote:This still seems not to explain the alternate head found in the Ratchet instructions, pictured below.

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We already have an explanation for that head: Arms Micron Swerve. The head design was used for a different mold, and since G1 Swerve was a retool of G1 Gears... See what they did?
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Re: BotCon 2014 Officially Confirmed for Pasadena, CA - Website Up

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:55 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:We already have an explanation for that head: Arms Micron Swerve. The head design was used for a different mold, and since G1 Swerve was a retool of G1 Gears... See what they did?
Except that Swerve's head has different face and is Voyager sized. The head seen on the proposed "Gears" figure looks a lot more like the head seen in Ratchet's instructions (and is Deluxe sized). Though, there is at least a resemblance between the general shape of this head and Swerve's, yes, so we can probably say that the design for Swerve's head was at least based on the "Gears" head.

Here's a close up to compare:
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