Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

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Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Jack Hallows » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:37 am

Motto: "A mind should not be so open that the brain falls out, however it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
i invite all decepticon players to look at the current alt mode selection available to you guys. specifically the sections of starfighter and tough insect.

now that you have done so, ask yourself if you see these two alts listed there:
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next, i invite decepticon players to look at the complete decepticon alt mode thread.

not only are those two alt modes not listed under the decepticon alt modes, they aren’t listed in the game, period.

all decepticon starfighters and tough insects:
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all autobot starfighters and tough insects:
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bun bun is alt tampering. there is no question about it.

just yesterday, 1.21.2018, he stated that he would not change his alt modes from the ones he currently had, which were the autobot exclusive alt modes of Image, a stealth fighter, and Image, a small land animal. he stated that he would not change his alt modes until “[autobots] won the war” because “he knew it was driving some of [us] crazy”. well the war between the two combatants hasn’t even begun yet and he has changed his alt modes, which means the decepticon alt mode shop should have the first two alts posted in this thread, given that bun bun changed them tonight.

but does the decepticon alt mode shop contain these two alt modes? the answer is no. because they do not, and never did, exist in-game.

now that these objective facts have been stated, the question begs, how did bun bun get these alt modes? that isn’t something i can answer, clearly.

but this objective visual proof of alt tampering needs to be taken seriously and addressed in a professional manner. especially since exploiting the game, no matter how minimal or trivial the exploitation is, is against HMW rules.

edit: a sympathetic decepticon player (thank you, you know who you are) has provided me with screen captures of the current decepticon available alts section; and here they are, so no one can claim i’m making things up: these are the decepticon alt rotations as of this posting: 1.22.2018.

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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:56 am

I can't **** believe this ****.

I read part of this crap, but I didn't bother finishing it.

BUN-BUN CHANGED HIS ALTS BECAUSE I **** ASKED HIM TO TO HELP PUT THIS **** TO REST!

I am sick of all this crap going on in private messages. I am sick of the accusations. A couple of people try to breathe life back into a game that has been dead, and this is the **** that happens? I'm at a point where I'm tempted to lock down that rivalry thread and not allow it to go ahead if this is the **** that it generates.

but this objective visual proof of alt tampering needs to be taken seriously and addressed in a professional manner. especially since exploiting the game, no matter how minimal or trivial the exploitation is, is against HMW rules.


How **** serious do you want me to be? THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THIS!

We don't have a programmer.
The HMW panel is barely functional.

Yet you continue to harp on and on and on expecting things to be done your way. They can't be done your way, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY!

THE GAME IS BROKEN!

I don't know what more you **** want, but I literally have nothing more to give.

I'm done with this ****.
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Jack Hallows » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:11 am

Motto: "A mind should not be so open that the brain falls out, however it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
you’re seriously going to ignore all that and chalk it up to “the game being broken” and then ban me from the Iacon forum for pointing out obvious tampering? don’t let your contempt for me bar you from doing your diligent duty. if someone is clearly tampering with code, you shouldn’t be punishing the person pointing it out. none of this happens on the autobot side of the war, even with all the broken features.

and “do things my way”? what exactly is “my way”? i’m asking you to do your job. no one has ever had those alts before and now this guy has them? no one else can equip those alts and this one guy can?

think about this, burn. let’s be logical here.
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby steve2275 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:23 am

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but it wont get any worse"
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Naval Strike » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:22 am

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Ohhh my god Jack how large is the plate in your head?
Burn already stated several times you need to quit it, and what is your response? Start a thread about it?

Dude give it a rest already and lets all just simple play the game and enjoy it!

Bun-Bun is the one who got me and several other players back to playing this game! Lets keep it fun please!
Your posts and the tone you use against other player i find offensive.
Get off your high horse and just play the game and enjoy it!
Stop trying to start trouble!
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Jack Hallows » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:03 am

Motto: "A mind should not be so open that the brain falls out, however it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
let me get this straight. because your friend got you back into the game, and the forum authority doesn’t care enough to objectively review the presented evidence, i’m on a high horse and trying to start trouble?

not likely.

i’m not going to ignore a player who is performing impossible feats i have never seen another player perform in my entire time here.

your friend could have saved aunt betsy’s cat from the tree but that doesn’t make up for the absolute fact that he has alt modes equipped that simply do not exist in this game, and no one has ever seen in play here before.

everyone can point their finger at me and call me the problem, sure, i’ll take that. but we all know there’s a deeper issue here and if no one will address it, you better believe I will.

i’m all for fun, games and rivalries. hell, i made the thread that started the activity back up. but i’m also about fair play and questioning when things look suspicious.

if the game is so broken, how is this the first time this has happened... multiple times... with the same player being involved?

no one can refute what i have put forth, and i welcome anyone to try.

in the meantime, all of your yelling, screaming, personal attacks and deflectory tactics can’t and won’t take away from the fact that someone is exploiting the broken nature of the game to tamper with things.

until y’all prove me otherwise, the verdict stands.
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:32 am

Jack Hallows wrote:the forum authority doesn’t care enough to objectively review the presented evidence,

Are you **** serious? I DON'T **** CARE?

Of course I care! But what do you expect me to do about it? I CAN'T CLOSE ANY LOOP HOLES!

I did what I could do though, I asked Bun-Bun to change things, to help end this, AND HE DID! He didn't have to, but he did it anyway because he too wants to see this crap ended.

But still that's not enough for you!

So tell me this Jack, what would you like to see happen here? Clearly whatever I do won't satisfy you. So how about you offer up some solutions?
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Bun-Bun » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:48 am

It must be hell being you Jack.

Being triggered so badly by a couple pixels.

You're reminding me of part of why I left this game.

I don't need any Alt.'s what-so-ever. I'll go full Actionmaster.

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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:53 am

Bun-Bun wrote:I don't need any Alt.'s what-so-ever. I'll go full Actionmaster.

;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^ ;)^
I'd join you, but for obvious reasons, I won't be taking part.
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Psychout » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:01 pm

Motto: "This post clearly was meant to offend, and if you are affected by it in any way please close your browser and discuss it with someone who knows not to take the internet seriously."
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get over yourself. Burn has gone out of his way to pander to your bullshit, especially as (thanks to you) he is literally running this place on his own now.

Cut the guy a break and just play the damn game.
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Jack Hallows » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:47 pm

Motto: "A mind should not be so open that the brain falls out, however it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Burn wrote:So tell me this Jack, what would you like to see happen here? how about you offer up some solutions?

oh, nice. finally getting somewhere.

my suggestion would be for you to figure out how those were equipped and see if you can recreate the effect based on the information you are provided.

if it was done through manipulating code and exploitation, treat it how you would treat a person who pushes their stats past 10.

Psychout wrote:(thanks to you) he is literally running this place on his own now.


care to elaborate? i don’t recall having anything to do with people losing thier ability to “run this place.” i’m just a player.

regarding all the other cute fluff words y’all like using, like “pander” “triggered” “bullshit” etc. i have this to say:
:lol:

someone who is not an administrator but is able to manipulate the website and the game, even in a visual sense, is clearly abusing the system. point blank.

but ey, if y’all are ok with that, which you clearly appear to be, then you will also see me post the evidence of it when i see it happening; so that everyone with even a shred of common sense can see it and understand what’s going on.

what i find funny, is that even through all of this, no one has still debunked the evidence presented. :lol:
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Re: Visual Proof Of Alt Tampering

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:52 pm

Given that Ryan is now addressing this issue, there's no need for this thread to fester any longer.
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