Immortal Starscream wrote:I do want roddy, make no mistake, but I am still not seeing anything justifying the commander class price point. I know less hollow parts and higher piece count really makes a lot of difference, I get that. But still
o.supreme wrote:I'm willing to guess in terms of sheer dimensions this Rodimus Prime is very close in size to ER/Kingdom Optimus Prime. I'm sure the bot modes themselves will be almost identical in terms of height and parts count/transformation. It's just that while Prime's trailer is fairly simple and lightweight, Rodimus' Trailer has a much higher part count/plastic use/engineering so it will be heavier. That plus the accessories is where Hasbro tries to justify the CC price point. I think a very early comment about this release being "divisive" is quite appropriate. I mean it has nothing to do with whether you like Rodimus as a character or not (I think even among the oldest fans like myself, the idea of "hating" a character for an interpretation of a fictional event was dropped many years ago by most). The divisive part comes solely from the cost. Some are ok with it, and some are not.
alekese wrote:Avoiding discussion on pricing, the figure's articulation looks amazing. It looks like the legs are the same articulation/transformation scheme as ss hotrod, just scaled up, which I have no complaints on because I was impressed with how clean and articulated it was there. But those arms. My god those arms. double jointed elbows, presumably with a swivel in the middle. what looks like a mushroom peg in the armpit to give it a butterfly joint. and those hands, with two points of articulation in the fingers, with a separate 2 point index. I'm pretty sure just the two arms have a higher parts count than some deluxes.
alekese wrote:Avoiding discussion on pricing, the figure's articulation looks amazing. It looks like the legs are the same articulation/transformation scheme as ss hotrod, just scaled up, which I have no complaints on because I was impressed with how clean and articulated it was there. But those arms. My god those arms. double jointed elbows, presumably with a swivel in the middle. what looks like a mushroom peg in the armpit to give it a butterfly joint. and those hands, with two points of articulation in the fingers, with a separate 2 point index. I'm pretty sure just the two arms have a higher parts count than some deluxes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Mindmaster wrote:Definitely getting Rodimus now. We can only hope the rumored Galvatron won’t be ruined...
Overcracker wrote:His Transformation looks quote involved. More complex than most figures so far. There's also a ton of hinges and swivels which add to the parts count.
A few more accessories and yes, he certainly seems intricate enough for Commander Class.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Overcracker wrote:His Transformation looks quote involved. More complex than most figures so far. There's also a ton of hinges and swivels which add to the parts count.
A few more accessories and yes, he certainly seems intricate enough for Commander Class.
I think that is part of the whole problem for some fans though. A super nice version with lots of details and some extras may fit the complexity and price point of commander class, but it comes at the expense of another bot or figure that could only work at commander class such as Star Sabre, Deathsaurus or Tidal Wave. There were other options for doing a pretty good Rodimus Prime, but using commander class takes that slot away from someone that could only fit as commander class and pushing bots that really need an update further into the future.
Wolfman Jake wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Overcracker wrote:His Transformation looks quote involved. More complex than most figures so far. There's also a ton of hinges and swivels which add to the parts count.
A few more accessories and yes, he certainly seems intricate enough for Commander Class.
I think that is part of the whole problem for some fans though. A super nice version with lots of details and some extras may fit the complexity and price point of commander class, but it comes at the expense of another bot or figure that could only work at commander class such as Star Sabre, Deathsaurus or Tidal Wave. There were other options for doing a pretty good Rodimus Prime, but using commander class takes that slot away from someone that could only fit as commander class and pushing bots that really need an update further into the future.
Well, on the other hand, starting next year, we're reportedly getting TWO Commander Class figures and NO Titan Class figure at all. So, that's another slot opened up. Maybe it will be Star Saber and Deathsaurus? I also now want a Commander Class Optimus Prime based on the Earthrise design, but with more articulation, more paint apps, and a much bigger and more interactive trailer.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Overcracker wrote:His Transformation looks quote involved. More complex than most figures so far. There's also a ton of hinges and swivels which add to the parts count.
A few more accessories and yes, he certainly seems intricate enough for Commander Class.
I think that is part of the whole problem for some fans though. A super nice version with lots of details and some extras may fit the complexity and price point of commander class, but it comes at the expense of another bot or figure that could only work at commander class such as Star Sabre, Deathsaurus or Tidal Wave. There were other options for doing a pretty good Rodimus Prime, but using commander class takes that slot away from someone that could only fit as commander class and pushing bots that really need an update further into the future.
We all wish that, man. But ten years ago was a different Hasbro team with a different mindset. That team believed 80s altmodes wouldn't sell in today's market and that everything had to be changed, updated, and different in order to be appealing (hence their constant refusal to make Soundwave a tape deck again). In their minds, making new toys based directly on the old character designs was "backwards thinking", and that the toys' real future lay in the live action movies.Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't you have released these like ten years ago?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Overcracker wrote:As much as I like Star Saber and Deathsaurus, that's not something Hasbro is likely to do. Nor would they have been considered for a Hasbro line at all.
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