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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:15 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So yes, I still think people are very stupid for needing a different class name and not just looking at class=price point, but hey simple minded people just need simple solutions to get along with their day, and giving Rodimus his own label would have been a simple solution.


So you are calling me simple? Just kidding... ;) I know I am

At any rate, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make, but it is a nice thought. Especially seeing as how the original Transformers really didn't have price points per se, or they just had a lot, and many only had one or two toys in that size. ( Fans later placed them all in different size class based on height) it couldn't hurt just to let it all go. I mean it's not the same, but I know many people are complaining about the reisssue Basic Rattrap and Deluxe Cheetor having the same price when they were originally sold at 5 and 10 dollars respectively.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:28 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:Sorry, I should have clarified I was speaking on what the leaks have indicated we would be getting on the new figures, not the original toys or show. We've seen the head variant on a leader megs already.


Were those just flukes though? Like 1 in 20,000? I just went through about 30 listings on eBay and can't find any that have the grinning face (which is the damn face he should have had to begin with!!!) ... not that only 30 listings is a good sample or anything, just feel like if someone found the variant they'd be putting it up on eBay and asking all sorts of crazy money for it (as they should).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:35 pm

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o.supreme wrote:the reisssue Basic Rattrap and Deluxe Cheetor having the same price when they were originally sold at 5 and 10 dollars respectively.


It's kind of crazy that the Basic Rattrap now costs the same as the Deluxe Cheetor, especially since they don't come in a case together.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby alekese » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:37 pm

After a certain point, clearing out the mothballs, dredging the mold out of storage and making any modifications necessary for compatibility after 25 years of assembly line innovation is probably a more relevant cost factor than materials cost. Also, I'd imagine rattrap's spring driven automorph gimmick would be the sort of thing that 25 years of aging wouldn't play nice with, and would need touching up, if only to insure it complies with any changes in safety standards. Alternatively and/or additionally, if it helps, think of it as a discount on Cheetor, who they otherwise would have charged more for. :)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:47 pm

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o.supreme wrote:
So you are calling me simple? Just kidding... ;) I know I am

At any rate, I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make, but it is a nice thought.


You're the one who brought the good points which lead to this proposed solution, so I wouldn't call you simple at all.

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:Sorry, I should have clarified I was speaking on what the leaks have indicated we would be getting on the new figures, not the original toys or show. We've seen the head variant on a leader megs already.


Were those just flukes though? Like 1 in 20,000?


Yeah that was a fluke. I have never heard of anyone else finding that face sculpt. So yeah, it is the one that we will probably see on T Wrecks.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:58 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Turtler isn't part of the Spoiler

I see. Good to know. i'm rather confused why he's there. :HEADHURTS:

Probably cuz hasbro's doing a second production run of the seacons, the pre-orders were up on pulse a while ago

Second run was a while ago (and done by Takara Tomy, Hasbro just distributes), anything that's been showing up on Pulse since has been leftover stock from their warehouse. Takara Tomy also recently put a bunch of stuff on Takara Tomy Mall as a warehouse sale.

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And it seems Takara's pricing is a bit higher. 14,300 yen. discounted for pre-order to 9980 yen by AmiAm and 9100 Yen by Anime Export

Not sure I'm willing to pay 140 bucks for Roddy. That's MP pricing now.

If Hasbro's MSRP is indeed $80, I'll get it. but not paying anything over $100 bucks.

Takara Tomy prices are much higher than Hasbro's. Sky Lynx was also 14,300JPY. Jetfire, however, was 19,800JPY!!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:06 pm

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o.supreme wrote:the reisssue Basic Rattrap and Deluxe Cheetor having the same price when they were originally sold at 5 and 10 dollars respectively.


It's kind of crazy that the Basic Rattrap now costs the same as the Deluxe Cheetor, especially since they don't come in a case together.
alekese wrote:After a certain point, clearing out the mothballs, dredging the mold out of storage and making any modifications necessary for compatibility after 25 years of assembly line innovation is probably a more relevant cost factor than materials cost. Also, I'd imagine rattrap's spring driven automorph gimmick would be the sort of thing that 25 years of aging wouldn't play nice with, and would need touching up, if only to insure it complies with any changes in safety standards. Alternatively and/or additionally, if it helps, think of it as a discount on Cheetor, who they otherwise would have charged more for. :)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:29 am

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
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ZeroWolf wrote:Turtler isn't part of the Spoiler

I see. Good to know. i'm rather confused why he's there. :HEADHURTS:

Probably cuz hasbro's doing a second production run of the seacons, the pre-orders were up on pulse a while ago

Second run was a while ago (and done by Takara Tomy, Hasbro just distributes), anything that's been showing up on Pulse since has been leftover stock from their warehouse. Takara Tomy also recently put a bunch of stuff on Takara Tomy Mall as a warehouse sale.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:52 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Albatross250 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:55 am

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sol magnus wrote:Leaks or no leaks I'm getting it anyway.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:01 am

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As far as leaks go, still not as bad as it was in the combiner wars era :lol:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:11 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:As far as leaks go, still not as bad as it was in the combiner wars era :lol:


Im not sure about CW itself. I know the entire PotP line was leaked a year in advance. I mean we know pretty much what all of Kingdom wave 3 (standard retail) will be, even though no official product shots/pics of the toys have been shown, so I guess there is improvement there. Also now with selects and so many retailer exclusives, I guess the leaks are a bit more hard to come by.

Also just curious, I was in a Walgreens the other day, all they had were 2 Airrwaves (although that is the first time I've seen any ER anywhere since mid-January). I'm not even sure if they are getting any Kingdom toys, or has there been a rumored Exclusive for Walgreens yet for Kingdom?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:20 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:As far as leaks go, still not as bad as it was in the combiner wars era :lol:


Im not sure about CW itself. I know the entire PotP line was leaked a year in advance. I mean we know pretty much what all of Kingdom wave 3 (standard retail) will be, even though no official product shots/pics of the toys have been shown, so I guess there is improvement there. Also now with selects and so many retailer exclusives, I guess the leaks are a bit more hard to come by.

Also just curious, I was in a Walgreens the other day, all they had were 2 Airrwaves (although that is the first time I've seen any ER anywhere since mid-January). I'm not even sure if they are getting any Kingdom toys, or has there been a rumored Exclusive for Walgreens yet for Kingdom?

Oh, I meant how the leaks were presented with the cropped artwork being mirrored and all that jazz.

As for Walgreens, I think the Exclusive has been talked about but I can't for the life of me remember who it is
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:21 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:As far as leaks go, still not as bad as it was in the combiner wars era :lol:


Im not sure about CW itself. I know the entire PotP line was leaked a year in advance. I mean we know pretty much what all of Kingdom wave 3 (standard retail) will be, even though no official product shots/pics of the toys have been shown, so I guess there is improvement there. Also now with selects and so many retailer exclusives, I guess the leaks are a bit more hard to come by.

Also just curious, I was in a Walgreens the other day, all they had were 2 Airrwaves (although that is the first time I've seen any ER anywhere since mid-January). I'm not even sure if they are getting any Kingdom toys, or has there been a rumored Exclusive for Walgreens yet for Kingdom?

Oh, I meant how the leaks were presented with the cropped artwork being mirrored and all that jazz.

As for Walgreens, I think the Exclusive has been talked about but I can't for the life of me remember who it is

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:34 pm

o.supreme wrote:Also just curious, I was in a Walgreens the other day, all they had were 2 Airrwaves (although that is the first time I've seen any ER anywhere since mid-January). I'm not even sure if they are getting any Kingdom toys, or has there been a rumored Exclusive for Walgreens yet for Kingdom?


Based on my obsessive Walgreens stalking when ER Bluestreak was showing up, I would say for the next year, Walgreens is the place to go if you want to see any ER deluxes. They are always about a year off on current stock by me. I saw all of Siege waves 2-4 back when I was on the hunt for Bluestreak.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:30 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Oh, I meant how the leaks were presented with the cropped artwork being mirrored and all that jazz.
Leaks then: "Here's 6 cut and resized images of Computron's boxart, try to fit them together."

Leaks now: "Hey I got this picture of this figure my friend stole from a factory and I'm gonna make a secret discord to share it with my friends while making up fake leaks to trick other leak discords, oh no some guy got tired of our elitism and told everyone what we were talking about."

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:37 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:37 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Oh, I meant how the leaks were presented with the cropped artwork being mirrored and all that jazz.
Leaks then: "Here's 6 cut and resized images of Computron's boxart, try to fit them together."

Leaks now: "Hey I got this picture of this figure my friend stole from a factory and I'm gonna make a secret discord to share it with my friends while making up fake leaks to trick other leak discords, oh no some guy got tired of our elitism and told everyone what we were talking about."

Honestly, I thought the old leaks were more fun.
Yet just like with scalpers, most members of the fandom keep fueling them because they keep paying them attention by posting them on websites long before they're even confirmed to be true or false.

As for Kingdom, my trip to Wal-Mart was fruitful today:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:41 pm

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Speaking of leaks...
Huh. Not bad. Looks a bit simple and bulky, but not bad. Can't wait for the Selects version.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:44 pm

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Speaking of leaks...


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Postby Overcracker » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:49 pm

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Speaking of leaks...



Ooooh, very interesting. Need to see alt mode pics. But I like what I see. ;)^
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Chriphord » Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:50 pm

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Speaking of leaks...

Some interesting choice of accessory presentation.

Also, do my eyes deceive me or is that some Siege scuffing on his torso?
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