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Wolfman Jake wrote:I finally got Kingdom Tigatron this past weekend! Quick question, but is the robot mode’s “loin cloth” articulation just a vestigial feature? It doesn’t seem to do anything for the conversion between modes.

Correct, and it really isn't even articulated. It looks like it is on a hinge, but it is actually fixed in place. I'm thinking they must have wanted to make the gut gun go where it should, but couldn't make it work. Possibly ended up with something non-workable on the crotch for robot mode.

The bigger question in my mind is why did the put a face on the crotch?
(now everyone else can't unsee it, mwa-ha-ha-ha)

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I finally got Kingdom Tigatron this past weekend! Quick question, but is the robot mode’s “loin cloth” articulation just a vestigial feature? It doesn’t seem to do anything for the conversion between modes.

Correct, and it really isn't even articulated. It looks like it is on a hinge, but it is actually fixed in place. I'm thinking they must have wanted to make the gut gun go where it should, but couldn't make it work. Possibly ended up with something non-workable on the crotch for robot mode.

The bigger question in my mind is why did the put a face on the crotch?
(now everyone else can't unsee it, mwa-ha-ha-ha)

Actually, it will move on that pin joint, but it doesn’t really have the clearance to swing out fully due to how the rest of the figure was designed. Maybe it was intended to flip up to give greater range of movement to the robot mode legs, primarily to do a high kick, like they’ve done for other recent War for Cybertron figures, but for whatever reason, that functionality was dropped, but it remained in the design, at least partially.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I finally got Kingdom Tigatron this past weekend! Quick question, but is the robot mode’s “loin cloth” articulation just a vestigial feature? It doesn’t seem to do anything for the conversion between modes.

Correct, and it really isn't even articulated. It looks like it is on a hinge, but it is actually fixed in place. I'm thinking they must have wanted to make the gut gun go where it should, but couldn't make it work. Possibly ended up with something non-workable on the crotch for robot mode.

The bigger question in my mind is why did the put a face on the crotch?
(now everyone else can't unsee it, mwa-ha-ha-ha)

Actually, it will move on that pin joint, but it doesn’t really have the clearance to swing out fully due to how the rest of the figure was designed. Maybe it was intended to flip up to give greater range of movement to the robot mode legs, primarily to do a high kick, like they’ve done for other recent War for Cybertron figures, but for whatever reason, that functionality was dropped, but it remained in the design, at least partially.

It will technically move a tiny bit, yes, but I wouldn't recommend trying to move it. The "loin cloth" appears to be 2 pieces, the blue part is pinned through the actual crotch part and the white part I believe is just glued on the blue part. However, the way the blue part of the "loin cloth" fits with the white part of the crotch it is pinned through is clear that it is not intended to move. If it was intended to flip up, they would have needed a rounded edge on the back portion of the blue part so that it has clearance to rotate within the white part, it does not have that clearance meaning that joint was not intended to move, at least not based on the final design.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I finally got Kingdom Tigatron this past weekend! Quick question, but is the robot mode’s “loin cloth” articulation just a vestigial feature? It doesn’t seem to do anything for the conversion between modes.

Same thing with Cheetor.

Either to improve movement or it's just for an easier assembly.

Overcracker wrote:But I think It's not scraping against the shoulder panel, I was wrong there, but against the hole it pegs into. Switched the tires, and the issue changed places. So I assume its the tire peg, that's a bit thicker on one tire than the other.

However, it still not clear to me why it's not touching the ground.

Okay, that is weird. If the problem switched sides, then I definitely think it is the tire peg that or maybe the tire diameter on that specific tire that is the issue. Fortunately you have potentially an easy fix. The front tires are the same as the back, so you can try swapping it to the back and see if the problem is lessened enough where things will roll without the clearance needed for the chest.

You look like you have everything transformed properly as compared to my Huffer when what I can tell. There is not much clearance for his chest to begin with.

Images from Hobbymizer's Facebook page show that Kingdom Hot Rod and the Beast Wars Scorponok rerelease have reached Hong Kong. There are several in hand images of Hot Rod giving us the best look yet at the figure.
Some of the hollow bits might annoy fans but there is quite a bit more paint than people may have assumed.

You'll let us know what you think!

oof. guess where going back to the tradition of hot rod toys being not stellar. well, at least we got one good one out of kingdom!

The hollow parts don't bother me, especially since the head won't be visible unless you're standing directly behind him and have the back part folded down.

I think the article title should be corrected lol

Immortal Starscream wrote:oof. guess where going back to the tradition of hot rod toys being not stellar. well, at least we got one good one out of kingdom!

You do realize this is a cheap, simplified, relatively tiny $11 toy, right?

ZeroWolf wrote:The hollow parts don't bother me, especially since the head won't be visible unless you're standing directly behind him and have the back part folded down.

Indeed.

Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

That Hot Rod is not too bad, at least for $10. I'll probably pick him up and keep him in robot mode mostly, I'm not impressed with the car mode.

SkyFire Prime wrote:Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

What's wrong with showing the toy for what it is? If it bothers Hasbro, they should make better toys.

For a Core toy, I find that Rodimus pretty good.
I'll buy it as soon as I see it in store.

The hollow head is creepy. And why no blue paint for the windows?

I have to look up a video to really see what I think about this. I mean it looks fine from the pictures. Maybe needlessly complex, but I have Hot Rods with a more straight forward transformation, so why not?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

What's wrong with showing the toy for what it is? If it bothers Hasbro, they should make better toys.

Showing a toy for what it is? It is what you see, and nobody will display an $11 core figure from the back with the entire backpack unhinged and totally out of place. I don’t feel any need to defend hasbro, they’re just a company, but the frontline picture is weird and feels oddly subjective to someone who dislikes this figure and wants others to aswell lol.

jtanimator wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

What's wrong with showing the toy for what it is? If it bothers Hasbro, they should make better toys.

Showing a toy for what it is?

The hollow head is part of the figure, yes.

It is what you see, and nobody will display an $11 core figure from the back with the entire backpack unhinged and totally out of place. I don’t feel any need to defend hasbro, they’re just a company, but the frontline picture is weird and feels oddly subjective to someone who dislikes this figure and wants others to as well lol.

Even if that were the case, seeing it like that shouldn't be a deal-breaker to anyone, unless hollow heads are a feature one absolutely dislikes on a figure. And if that's the case, the rest of the figure could look like a masterpiece and that person should still pass on it, because of the hollow head.

Point is, there's nothing wrong with showing the hollow head, or even highlighting it.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:The hollow head is creepy. And why no blue paint for the windows?

Might be down to feeling white looks better at this size? Idk.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

jtanimator wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

What's wrong with showing the toy for what it is? If it bothers Hasbro, they should make better toys.

Showing a toy for what it is?

The hollow head is part of the figure, yes.

It is what you see, and nobody will display an $11 core figure from the back with the entire backpack unhinged and totally out of place. I don’t feel any need to defend hasbro, they’re just a company, but the frontline picture is weird and feels oddly subjective to someone who dislikes this figure and wants others to as well lol.

Even if that were the case, seeing it like that shouldn't be a deal-breaker to anyone, unless hollow heads are a feature one absolutely dislikes on a figure. And if that's the case, the rest of the figure could look like a masterpiece and that person should still pass on it, because of the hollow head.

Point is, there's nothing wrong with showing the hollow head, or even highlighting it.

Overquoting to ask what's the issue with the hollow head again?
That's a small figure with limited budget and parts count. Furthermore, the hollow part on the head is only visible if you look for it unlike hollow limbs. So I think some people make a mountain out of a molehill.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I think the article title should be corrected lol

Immortal Starscream wrote:oof. guess where going back to the tradition of hot rod toys being not stellar. well, at least we got one good one out of kingdom!

You do realize this is a cheap, simplified, relatively tiny $11 toy, right?

You're right. This should be $2.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

jtanimator wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

SkyFire Prime wrote:Seibertron has been mean lately with headlines, instead of posting pictures of hot rod and including the hollow head, you front paged the hollow head.

Nice,

I'm sure Hasbro wants to give you the next exclusive.

What's wrong with showing the toy for what it is? If it bothers Hasbro, they should make better toys.

Showing a toy for what it is?

The hollow head is part of the figure, yes.

It is what you see, and nobody will display an $11 core figure from the back with the entire backpack unhinged and totally out of place. I don’t feel any need to defend hasbro, they’re just a company, but the frontline picture is weird and feels oddly subjective to someone who dislikes this figure and wants others to as well lol.

Even if that were the case, seeing it like that shouldn't be a deal-breaker to anyone, unless hollow heads are a feature one absolutely dislikes on a figure. And if that's the case, the rest of the figure could look like a masterpiece and that person should still pass on it, because of the hollow head.

Point is, there's nothing wrong with showing the hollow head, or even highlighting it.

Yeah, I have nothing against this figure. We are a news site and the news here was that these pics showed angles we had not seen before. So it only made sense to highlight the most newsworthy aspect.

Hot Rod is not on my list, but he is -

I'm sure a lot of people appreciate seeing this figure fully like this. If I wasn't being a completist with WFC I'd certainly have second thoughts about buying it. I'd expect this from Authentics or Cyber Battalion, not Generations. If the head being hollow doesn't bother you then why get so worked up over it being highlighted in the article?

If you're fine with this then you'd have to also be fine with Hasbro if they started making Marvel or Star Wars figures with holes in their heads as well, right? Or maybe Hasbro should stop painting the back of figures, too, since nobody displays the back of figures, right?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:If you're fine with this then you'd have to also be fine with Hasbro if they started making Marvel or Star Wars figures with holes in their heads as well, right? Or maybe Hasbro should stop painting the back of figures, too, since nobody displays the back of figures, right?

Emerje

Hasbro reading this: "This guy's onto something!"