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I feel like I'm back in 2007 all over again when all this was first found out in the west and everyone was like "HUH?!!"
It also didn't help that the Western fandom at large back then also kept insisting that Car Robots was as much of a continuity reboot unconnected to anything that came before it like the English RID 2001 version was, when a vast majority of Western fans had never even seen Car Robots in full and were mainly going by the aforementioned English dubbed version.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I feel like I'm back in 2007 all over again when all this was first found out in the west and everyone was like "HUH?!!"
That's what I get for not haunting this section of the forums, lol! I knew, vaguely, that they made Car Robots connect. But they way they went about it is ... terrible ...
I feel like they may have learned the wrong lessons from western comics. All the spackle and staples they've used to graft different media together make things even more dense and incomprehensible than before!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Granted, like I said, the majority of western fans never actually watched Car Robots at the time since it wasn't fully available in subtitled form back then (the complete fansubs didn't get made until 2014).Gauntlet101010 wrote:I can understand why the western fandom rejected the tenuous connections such as they are. If the official dub omitted them and since the show does introduce continuity problems other media had to tidy up ... yeah. I can see why. We didn't even get to have "head on" so of course we wouldn't pick up on that. In addition it didn't have to be a direct tie in - it could just be a reference. A nod.
Yeah, there could have been more done with it in further animation. But Car Robots apparently flopped in Japan. RID was a smash success in the west, but CR basically put Transformers animation into a coma over in Japan. From 2000 to 2003, there was no Transformers cartoon airing on TV in Japan. Car Robots ended at the end of 2000, while Armada (or "Legends of the Microns") didn't begin airing in Japan until early 2003. Transformers was essentially dead during that interim, getting by only on some smaller lines of mostly G1 reissues before Armada revitalized it three years later.Gauntlet101010 wrote:It is what it is, but that doesn't mean I think it was a good idea for them to follow through on tying it all in It seems to have only complicated things and added nothing. And a team of time police is actually a pretty cool concept. They just left it lying on the ground.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
GFC's hand has a 5mm hole in its palm that the Devilhand is attached to by a 5mm peg.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Hm, you know that pick does show a missed opportunity in that it would have been neat if the hand could link up well. In the pics it looks like it just sort of leans against FC's hand. f they had made the hand removable and added a peg to Gigahand it woulda been a feature. Then they could have some mega bad guy in the show for at least one episode.
Beast Wars Metals flopped over there, too. Yep, what was considered the high point of Beast Wars over here (its second and third seasons) completely tanked in Japan, because Japan didn't give a rat's head about the Transmetals. Only season 1 of Beast Wars was successful, while Second and Neo kept the steam going long enough for seasons 2-3 to get dubbed as Metals, but Metals tanked when it finally got to Japan. Car Robots came about in response to Metals's failure, with Takara hoping to revitalize the brand by bringing back realistic Earth vehicles with Beast Era-level articulation engineering (and just in time for the brand's 15th anniversary in Japan, too). Alas, Car Robots was just as much of a flop, too.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Car Robots flopped in Japan? I guess that explains why there've been no references to it at all, ever. I had thought it was just majorly overshadowed by two much greater eras before and after. It must be some kind of miracle that we got the Haslab. It can't be as poorly regarded over there as Beast Machines is over here, though.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hi everyone,
I know it's been a while since our team's last release. Since it's the 40th Anniversary of The Transformers franchise, we decided to put together an English subtitled translation of the first 3 episodes of the Japanese dub of the G1 cartoon in celebration of this year. Thankfully Takara-Tomy allows these episodes to be posted online without issue, so we're grateful that we can share these everyone.
For those wondering if we're going to translate the rest of the G1 series, the answer at this time is no, however we may consider translating the odd episode if it provides value to the audience. Viewers will quickly realize when watching this series, aside from some adjustments to the dialogue and character names / factions, the dub follows the original English version quite closely.
The videos are available via YouTube on our channel, so we hope everyone enjoys them. Please leave a Like / Dislike and comment as we love the feedback and support.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Yes. Cartoon Network forced several anime that were airing on Toonami to be rush jobs, just so they could get them on the air sooner than later, regardless of script quality. Dragon Ball Z, Sailor Moon, and even Armada. Armada was especially rushed in that it started airing in English a whole four-five months before it started airing in Japan, when the Japanese scripts and some of the animation simply weren't done yet.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Was Armada just botched or something?
Yeah, the weird "Super Saiyan Green" bit for the Mini-Cons near the end of the series was one of the few unexplained things that was actually given an explanation later when the DVD releases started coming out in Japan. The Japanese DVDs featured a pack-in manga series called "The Linkage", written by Hirofumi Ichikawa, that followed the exploits of a group of Mini-Cons partnered with a human woman named Stella, who helps them to find and recruit more Mini-Cons to join their cause and stop a unit of Unicron-loyalist Mini-Cons from finding and corrupting more of them to evil.Gauntlet101010 wrote:In the later episodes random Minicons glow green and fly (why not before?).
Funnily enough, he was originally conceived as a new Bumblebee back when Armada was in its earliest development stages. But the name wasn't available to trademark at the time, and Aaron Archer wasn't fond of the name anyway, thinking it sounded too generic.Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's too bad that he comes off more as a modern Bumblebee to me now, lol. That yellow color scheme definitely hits different after the Bay movies changed Bee forever.
Fun fact: In what was an unusually direct difference between the English and Japanese versions, he was a total faction defector in Japan (a Decepticon who genuinely chose to become an Autobot), while in English he was secretly always an Autobot having infiltrated the Decepticons as an undercover spy.Gauntlet101010 wrote:But all the characters are bangers here. I think my second fav is Devastor. It's weird seeing an Autobot Constructicon, but here we are. I like his somewhat mercenary attitude and his mentorship role with Hot Shot. It's a bit of a shame a lot of the personalities take a backseat in the second half, but that's how it goes. There's a lot of characters here.
His three-way faction-swapping gimmick is a little more advanced than just switching head components, and the current Hasbro team seems to want to stay away from those kinds of spring-initiated gimmicks for the CHUG lines (also, Titans Return was made under John Warden's tenure, which was when Hasbro was going "All G1, all the time!").Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think a special mention has to go to Sideways. How have we not gotten a new toy of this guy? Titans Returns would have been the perfect time!
It's more like he's a piece of Unicron (like the Mini-Cons themselves) but given his own sense of autonomy, and that Unicron can use him as an avatar to communicate to lesser beings. Unicron would be arrogant enough to claim that Sideways isn't his own guy, being just a part of him, when we saw before that Sideways was independent enough to fear Unicron like he was a separate individual.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Just kinda wish he wasn't, actually, Unicron. Maybe it was just in that one episode? I like him better as his own guy.
I actually have a theory as to why Takara called Armada Wheeljack "Rampage". While the official reason is because Takara simply wanted to reuse the name from Beast Wars (same reason Armada Blurr was named "Silverbolt" in Japan), a lot of fans have noticed a particular visual similarity to G1 Sideswipe in Wheeljack's design (most notably his robot head). In Japan, G1 Sideswipe's name is "Lambor" (ランボル Ranboru), for his being a Lamborghini. Someone at Takara may have noticed the design similarities with Sideswipe, but since he isn't a Lamborghini, they couldn't call him "Lambor" and instead gave him a name that sounded similar and villainous. "Rampage" in Japanese is ランページ (Ranpēji). Notice that both "Lambor" and "Ranpage" use the same ラン (Ran) characters at the beginning of their names, which almost makes "Rampage" seem like the Decepticon version of the Autobot name "Lambor".Gauntlet101010 wrote:But Rampage is also really cool too. I have a soft spot for faction switchers. But if they're gonna call him anything shouldn't he be called Mirage? Plus Rampage isn't a very Autobotty name.
Good luck.Gauntlet101010 wrote:All in all, ML is top shelf stuff. I really enjoyed this one. On to Superlink to see how this story continues!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
And we got another one, "Kremzeek!"Sabrblade wrote:OOOOOOOOOOH BOY!!!!!
Karyuudo Fansubs just now dropped a new release, and it's a special one for the 40th anniversary! It's the first three episodes of Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wait, you're downloading these? I didn't think torrents for Superlink still worked after all these years later.Gauntlet101010 wrote:My download just stopped. I hope I don't have to watch this in garbage quality, it really ruins the experience.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hm. I wouldn't have thought you would have needed to download ML since the subbing group has it all on their YouTube channel in a playlist.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I downloaded ML. Car Robots I found in decent quality on ... Kissanime I think it was. ML is the first one I've downloaded.
Sounds like you ran afoul of TF NorthAmerica, a channel that once upon a time sought to take Karyuudo's fansubs for the Japanese series and heavily Americanize them with Hasbro terminology to be more in line with Hasbro's official subtitles for the Shout! Factory DVD releases of The Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory. A baffling decision for anyone wanting to view these shows in their original format.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Car Robots is on Youtube, but the translation was changed and I found it so distracting that I had to find it elsewhere.
I'm surprised any of them are working, since TV-Nihon's fansub release of Superlink goes back to 2007, a whole 17 years ago.Gauntlet101010 wrote:One of the packaged of SL worked just fine, but the other two are slow. But they have resumed.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
It truly is baffling.Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't know why TF NorthAmerica would bother with such a project. Honestly it seems like a waste of everyone's time. If someone wants to watch Hasbro's take they'd watch Hasbro's take. If they want to watch the original they want to watch the original. I just couldn't take Fire Convoy being called Pyro or the Autobot Bros being called the Omnibots.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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