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Seems that the front legs of the panther mode were purposely missasembled by Hasbro for some reasons. The biceps of the front legs face the wrong way and the legs bend the wrong way. However, this is a very easy fix. The front legs of the beast are only on ball joints that can easily be popped off and on. So swapping the legs can be done instantly without any breakage risks. Now the beast mode look right once the front legs are swapped.
Spider5800 wrote:He looks great. Which actually kind of sucks, because I'm never going to get him at $53.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Spider5800 wrote:He looks great. Which actually kind of sucks, because I'm never going to get him at $53.
You got that right, buddy! Instead, you'll get him at 100$+ on eBay once it sell out.
Spider5800 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Spider5800 wrote:He looks great. Which actually kind of sucks, because I'm never going to get him at $53.
You got that right, buddy! Instead, you'll get him at 100$+ on eBay once it sell out.
I'm not helping scalpers on eBay either. If he sells out without ever going on sale, I'm just not getting him.
Again, sucks.
primalxconvoy wrote:It seems your version still has the misassembled front legs.
-Kanrabat- wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:It seems your version still has the misassembled front legs.
How are they "missasembled" ? Those parts are supposed to be switched around?
Spider5800 wrote:The official images on Pulse show the legs reversed the same way, so looks like it's intentional for whatever reason.
Not sure what the reasoning is there though, they are correct on Cheetor. That's basically the cat's bicep, it should be big in the front.
Probably simple enough to just pop the legs off and swap em if you wanted to.
primalxconvoy wrote:Hasbro's official photos have a rep for being mistranformed and/or showing toys with QC issues though, right?
Spider5800 wrote:The official images on Pulse show the legs reversed the same way, so looks like it's intentional for whatever reason.
Not sure what the reasoning is there though, they are correct on Cheetor. That's basically the cat's bicep, it should be big in the front.
Probably simple enough to just pop the legs off and swap em if you wanted to.
primalxconvoy wrote:Praise be to Primus!
-Kanrabat- wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Praise be to Primus!
Yeah, thank God for no pin festival like some older figures are built.
I was wondering why Ravage's front legs were bending the wrong way. But the thing that is most intriguing is that the misplaced front legs were done this way on purpose. Maybe to furthermore differentiate it from Cheetor, logic be damned?
primalxconvoy wrote:How do we know it was on purpose, though? Recently, Galvatron's shoulders were a mess.
primalxconvoy wrote:How do we know it was on purpose, though? Recently, Galvatron's shoulders were a mess.
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:How do we know it was on purpose, though? Recently, Galvatron's shoulders were a mess.
... which Hasbro fixed on later shipments, so that was an acknowledged mistake. Ravage though... did the instructions have them reversed as well?
-Kanrabat- wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:How do we know it was on purpose, though? Recently, Galvatron's shoulders were a mess.
... which Hasbro fixed on later shipments, so that was an acknowledged mistake. Ravage though... did the instructions have them reversed as well?
Looks like it's a factory mishaps, not an intentional design choice.
The instructions confirm it.
At least it's an easy fix contrary to Galvatron's shoulders.
God Sunstreaker wrote:Thanks for the review.
I have this guy sitting next to my favorite TF's so he's sitting in his box next to Unicron.
I'm glad people have an opportunity to finally get Beast Wars Ravage.
I'm still surprised with all the love this toy gets. And I'm wondering if it's just because it's the cool new thing or if they don't have X-9 Jaguar to compare it to.
I've watched Agenda part 1-3 like 2 trillion times over the years and I still remember watching the first airing.
Let's just say Ravage is in my top 5 characters/toys from my child hood. He's like the Empire Strikes back of toys for me.
As wonderful as this attempt the execution perplexes me. Ravage's inclusion in Beast Wars and Agenda was just amazing. And this set is meant to be something special based on the fact it's a special Hascon Release. I'm just wondering at the design choices, especially compared to X-9.
For those of you who don't know X-9 Jaguar was the Japanese only release of Beast Wars Ravage and it came about about 20 years go. X-9 had a weird miscoloring, instead of Silver (or grey), tan was used. And X-9 used Transmetal Cheetor as a base, just like the animation model of Ravage. Thus, below the waist of X-9 was perfect. The upper body they made some interesting design choices and it was a modified TM Cheetor, but it was nice enough. Also it had Cheetor's flight mode which was hilariously fun. When I found out that X-9 existed I immediately went on to ebay, spent too much and it's been in my collection carrying Megatron in gun mode every since.
Anyway, what perplexes me is the design choice to use Kingdom Cheetor as a base. I think most rational people would understand that it's impossible to make a show accurate transformable toy of BW Ravage. There's no way it's going to turn into a tape. So that being said: why would they use Kingdom Cheetor, was Transmetal Cheetor's mold lost?
I've seen the recent Third Part offering of Ravage and it looks amazing. They went all out to make the Robot form perfect and then they made a super simple transformation into a panther. That third party offering is $60 last I checked, only $10 more than this one. I'm just wondering why Hasbro didn't go this route. Was it really that much simpler to take Kingdom Cheetor as a base?
So again I ask, why make so many compromises with this figure with the legs and lower body when the cat mode looks like a starving leopard at best and the robot mode has legs dangling off his back. And when the X-9 toy was perfect below the waist.
Anyway, I'm glad I have this Ravage and it's exceptionally cool that it comes with a G1 reissue. I'd just hard for me to consider this a definitive version. It seems like they were going for definitive. Now if you don't take it out of the box, it does look definitive.
Maybe I'll make a cape for my Ravage to hide his back nonsense.
primalxconvoy wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:Thanks for the review.
I have this guy sitting next to my favorite TF's so he's sitting in his box next to Unicron.
I'm glad people have an opportunity to finally get Beast Wars Ravage.
I'm still surprised with all the love this toy gets. And I'm wondering if it's just because it's the cool new thing or if they don't have X-9 Jaguar to compare it to.
I've watched Agenda part 1-3 like 2 trillion times over the years and I still remember watching the first airing.
Let's just say Ravage is in my top 5 characters/toys from my child hood. He's like the Empire Strikes back of toys for me.
As wonderful as this attempt the execution perplexes me. Ravage's inclusion in Beast Wars and Agenda was just amazing. And this set is meant to be something special based on the fact it's a special Hascon Release. I'm just wondering at the design choices, especially compared to X-9.
For those of you who don't know X-9 Jaguar was the Japanese only release of Beast Wars Ravage and it came about about 20 years go. X-9 had a weird miscoloring, instead of Silver (or grey), tan was used. And X-9 used Transmetal Cheetor as a base, just like the animation model of Ravage. Thus, below the waist of X-9 was perfect. The upper body they made some interesting design choices and it was a modified TM Cheetor, but it was nice enough. Also it had Cheetor's flight mode which was hilariously fun. When I found out that X-9 existed I immediately went on to ebay, spent too much and it's been in my collection carrying Megatron in gun mode every since.
Anyway, what perplexes me is the design choice to use Kingdom Cheetor as a base. I think most rational people would understand that it's impossible to make a show accurate transformable toy of BW Ravage. There's no way it's going to turn into a tape. So that being said: why would they use Kingdom Cheetor, was Transmetal Cheetor's mold lost?
I've seen the recent Third Part offering of Ravage and it looks amazing. They went all out to make the Robot form perfect and then they made a super simple transformation into a panther. That third party offering is $60 last I checked, only $10 more than this one. I'm just wondering why Hasbro didn't go this route. Was it really that much simpler to take Kingdom Cheetor as a base?
So again I ask, why make so many compromises with this figure with the legs and lower body when the cat mode looks like a starving leopard at best and the robot mode has legs dangling off his back. And when the X-9 toy was perfect below the waist.
Anyway, I'm glad I have this Ravage and it's exceptionally cool that it comes with a G1 reissue. I'd just hard for me to consider this a definitive version. It seems like they were going for definitive. Now if you don't take it out of the box, it does look definitive.
Maybe I'll make a cape for my Ravage to hide his back nonsense.
The 3P version wasn't that popular, due to the parts-forming hands/paws and the size (it's too big for a CHUG collection). The 60 dollar price was a little too much, considering the parts-forming, IMO, too.
As such, the official version is simply the better choice, for most people.
(PS: - Why doesn't the spoiler tag work? I popped the long quote by the OP inside the tags, but the quote still appears, in its entirety).
God Sunstreaker wrote: why would they use Kingdom Cheetor, was Transmetal Cheetor's mold lost?
God Sunstreaker wrote:I've seen the recent Third Part offering of Ravage and it looks amazing.
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